Sgt Ryan Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 But in 2010. I say why wait. He can develop Romo, and can really use Felix Jones next year. Id love to see Shanny here over Wade. IN fact Id rather see Dallas go back to a 4-3. Ware and Ratliff would be the ends, Spears and Canty would be DT. Bradie James would be a monster in a traditional 4-3 as MLB, And Id put Roy as the WLB, in a seek and destroy type of role. Hamlin would be the SS, and Anthony Henry would be the FS. Why wait Jerry, Shanny is an instant upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 The only possible reason for sticking it out with Wade for a year that I can think of is that Jerry plans on throwing everything and the kitchen sink at Holmgren next year. I have been wishing I would see a Shanahan Cowboys thread. Do you have a link Sarge ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isleseeya Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 The only possible reason for sticking it out with Wade for a year that I can think of is that Jerry plans on throwing everything and the kitchen sink at Holmgren next year. I have been wishing I would see a Shanahan Cowboys thread. Do you have a link Sarge ? i honestly think the only reason he will stick with Wade is that he said he would do so before they lost the last two games of the year ...Jones is a control freak and ego maniac , and i think he is worried about going back on his word or looking weak in the face of the media Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrograde assault Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 We could use a coach, thats for damn sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splotchman Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3808287 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt Ryan Posted January 4, 2009 Author Share Posted January 4, 2009 Wasn't Jason Garrett supposed to take over, based on comments back in 2007? Yep, but the offense sputtered when Tony Sporano left for Miami. How much of the offensive success in 2007 was Garrett. Sure looked bad once Sporano left. I think Shanny would demand more respect and keep this team more accountable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 The only possible reason for sticking it out with Wade for a year that I can think of is that Jerry plans on throwing everything and the kitchen sink at Holmgren next year. JJ has said that he's keeping Wade b/c he regrets firing Chan Gailey after only 2 years. Says Wade needs more time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montster Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 i saw on nbc's pregame (before chargers/colts) that if dungy quits, four guys could be available in 2010 as coach and/or GMs: dungy, cowher, shanahan and holmgren. i wonder if jerry jones is thinking, keep wade around for a year, get one of those guys as GM (assuming jones can put aside his massive ego) and go with garrett as coach (again, assuming he actually has the goods), or one of them as GM/coach. but it's probably just wishful thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt Ryan Posted January 4, 2009 Author Share Posted January 4, 2009 JJ has said that he's keeping Wade b/c he regrets firing Chan Gailey after only 2 years. Says Wade needs more time... The players dont respect Wade. Penalties will continue to happen as there is no accountability with Wade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 The players dont respect Wade. Penalties will continue to happen as there is no accountability with Wade. did'nt say I agreed, just typing what I read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Step 1 ... fire the GM Step 2 ... fire Wade Step 3 ... hire a real HC Dallas desperately needs a new HC ... Shanny is definitely and upgrade over Wade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 The Cowboys, to my knowledge, have never won a playoff game with any coach that was a recycled NFL head coach from another team. In 48 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 Jerry Jones needs to stay at a Holiday Inn Express tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt Ryan Posted January 4, 2009 Author Share Posted January 4, 2009 The Cowboys, to my knowledge, have never won a playoff game with any coach that had already been an NFL head coach. In 48 years. Wouldnt Wade and Parcells be the only that have previously been an NFL head coach before joining Dallas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 The Cowboys, to my knowledge, have never won a playoff game with any coach that had already been an NFL head coach. In 48 years. That is not exactly a correct statement ... unless the Cowboys won all of their playoff games with first year NFL coaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrograde assault Posted January 4, 2009 Share Posted January 4, 2009 We're all piss-ing in the wind, Jerry ain't going to do anything we think he needs to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no one Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 I'd be surprised if Wade was gone ... JJ will keep him one more year and then have his choice of the four. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 I'd be surprised if Wade was gone ... JJ will keep him one more year and then have his choice of the four. Great ... just what Dallas needs, Wade Phillips the lame duck HC. And I'm not sure I agree that JJ will have his choice of four ... I'm not sure any of them will be interested in working for JJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_bone65 Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Great ... just what Dallas needs, Wade Phillips the lame duck HC. And I'm not sure I agree that JJ will have his choice of four ... I'm not sure any of them will be interested in working for JJ. Ain't that the truth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 i saw on nbc's pregame (before chargers/colts) that if dungy quits, four guys could be available in 2010 as coach and/or GMs: dungy, cowher, shanahan and holmgren. i wonder if jerry jones is thinking, keep wade around for a year, get one of those guys as GM (assuming jones can put aside his massive ego) and go with garrett as coach (again, assuming he actually has the goods), or one of them as GM/coach. but it's probably just wishful thinking. Dungy - if he quits, he isn't coming back to football, IMO. He has said he wants to set up some kind of pseudo-ministry or help organization. Cowher - getting more comfortable by the day and has more money than God. I don't know if he'll coach again and I certainly don't see it being in Dallas. Holmgren - probably available in 2010 but given that he likes lots of control, won't work in the JJ environment. Shanahan - will likely be working for someone starting 2009 and on a multi-year contract. I don't see any of these four in Dallas 2010. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no one Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Great ... just what Dallas needs, Wade Phillips the lame duck HC. And I'm not sure I agree that JJ will have his choice of four ... I'm not sure any of them will be interested in working for JJ. True on both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.D.Morrison Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 (edited) Great ... just what Dallas needs, Wade Phillips the lame duck HC. And I'm not sure I agree that JJ will have his choice of four ... I'm not sure any of them will be interested in working for JJ. Wouldn't you consider Wade Phillips a lame duck HC already since it has been HIGHLY speculated that Garrett was a "Coach-in-waiting" dating back to their aquisition of him, as well as their intense desire to stop him from being a HC someplace else after the 2007 season? I've been kind of looking at Wade as a lame duck since his first year. Combined with his personality, it is no wonder that it has been a rudderless ship for the better part of 2 years... Jerry's biggest mistake by far was warring with Jimmy Johnson....we could have a couple more in our cases if Jerry didn't think he, himself, was the next coming and fire The JJ.... Edited January 5, 2009 by J.D.Morrison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 The Cowboys, to my knowledge, have never won a playoff game with any coach that was a recycled NFL head coach from another team. In 48 years. they haven't won many period under coaches not named landry or johnson. on the other hand, other teams have won plenty of playoff games with "recycled" NFL coaches. off the top of my head, belichick, shanahan, gruden, dungy, holmgren, parcells, schottenheimer, vermeil. of course, those guys are no barry switzer or wade phillips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 they haven't won many period under coaches not named landry or johnson. on the other hand, other teams have won plenty of playoff games with "recycled" NFL coaches. off the top of my head, belichick, shanahan, gruden, dungy, holmgren, parcells, schottenheimer, vermeil. of course, those guys are no barry switzer or wade phillips. Barry has a Super Bowl ring. Imagine that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Wouldn't you consider Wade Phillips a lame duck HC already since it has been HIGHLY speculated that Garrett was a "Coach-in-waiting" dating back to their aquisition of him, as well as their intense desire to stop him from being a HC someplace else after the 2007 season? I've been kind of looking at Wade as a lame duck since his first year. Combined with his personality, it is no wonder that it has been a rudderless ship for the better part of 2 years... Jerry's biggest mistake by far was warring with Jimmy Johnson....we could have a couple more in our cases if Jerry didn't think he, himself, was the next coming and fire The JJ.... The prevailing thought last year was that Wade was holding it down for Garrett ... however, Detroit has asked for and been given permission to interview Garrett. I'd think if Garrett was the Dallas HC in waiting that Jerry wouldn't be so forthcoming in allowing other teams to talk to him. No doubt the release of Jimmy Johnson was the biggest mistake Jerry will ever have made. Had Jimmy stayed the Cowboys would have been the first team to win four super bowls in a row and who knows where they would be now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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