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The ninja to end all ninjas speaks!

 

Health care reforms are turning into health care revolts. Americans are turning up the heat on congressmen in town hall meetings across the U.S.

 

While watching these political hot August nights, I decided to research the reasons so many are opposed to Obamacare to separate the facts from the fantasy. What I discovered is that there are indeed dirty little secrets buried deep within the 1,000-plus page health care bill.

 

 

 

malkinMag300x250Malkin.jpg Dirty secret No. 1 in Obamacare is about the government's coming into homes and usurping parental rights over child care and development.

 

It's outlined in sections 440 and 1904 of the House bill (Page 838), under the heading "home visitation programs for families with young children and families expecting children." The programs (provided via grants to states) would educate parents on child behavior and parenting skills.

 

The bill says that the government agents, "well-trained and competent staff," would "provide parents with knowledge of age-appropriate child development in cognitive, language, social, emotional, and motor domains ... modeling, consulting, and coaching on parenting practices," and "skills to interact with their child to enhance age-appropriate development."

 

Are you kidding me?! With whose parental principles and values? Their own? Certain experts'? From what field and theory of childhood development? As if there are one-size-fits-all parenting techniques! Do we really believe they would contextualize and personalize every form of parenting in their education, or would they merely universally indoctrinate with their own?

 

Are we to assume the state's mediators would understand every parent's social or religious core values on parenting? Or would they teach some secular-progressive and religiously neutered version of parental values and wisdom? And if they were to consult and coach those who expect babies, would they ever decide circumstances to be not beneficial for the children and encourage abortions?

 

One government rebuttal is that this program would be "voluntary." Is that right? Does that imply that this agency would just sit back passively until some parent needing parenting skills said, "I don't think I'll call my parents, priest or friends or read a plethora of books, but I'll go down to the local government offices"? To the contrary, the bill points to specific targeted groups and problems, on Page 840: The state "shall identify and prioritize serving communities that are in high need of such services, especially communities with a high proportion of low-income families."

 

Are we further to conclude by those words that low-income families know less about parenting? Are middle- and upper-class parents really better parents? Less neglectful of their children? Less needful of parental help and training? Is this "prioritized" training not a biased, discriminatory and even prejudicial stereotype and generalization that has no place in federal government, law or practice? Continued...

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So Chuck Norris has turned into a Palinstinian? Amazing.

 

It's outlined in sections 440 and 1904 of the House bill (Page 838), under the heading "home visitation programs for families with young children and families expecting children." The programs (provided via grants to states) would educate parents on child behavior and parenting skills.

 

The bill says that the government agents, "well-trained and competent staff," would "provide parents with knowledge of age-appropriate child development in cognitive, language, social, emotional, and motor domains ... modeling, consulting, and coaching on parenting practices," and "skills to interact with their child to enhance age-appropriate development."

 

You have to be some kind of f'ing nutjob to think that this is a government attempt to indoctrinate babies. Basically it is a couple of home visits just to check up on the kid and to help out parents. My (Swiss) wife couldn't believe that visits of this sort aren't standard in the US.

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So Chuck Norris has turned into a Palinstinian? Amazing.

 

 

 

You have to be some kind of f'ing nutjob to think that this is a government attempt to indoctrinate babies. Basically it is a couple of home visits just to check up on the kid and to help out parents. My (Swiss) wife couldn't believe that visits of this sort aren't standard in the US.

 

yeah, why would you resist mandatory government training and visits to your home to enforce compliance? why would you worry about this, mr. chuck norris? that is, unless you have something to hide.... :wacko:

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So Chuck Norris has turned into a Palinstinian? Amazing.

 

 

 

You have to be some kind of f'ing nutjob to think that this is a government attempt to indoctrinate babies. Basically it is a couple of home visits just to check up on the kid and to help out parents. My (Swiss) wife couldn't believe that visits of this sort aren't standard in the US.

 

:wacko:

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You have to be some kind of f'ing nutjob

Wiegie asked............

 

yeah, why would you resist mandatory government training and visits to your home to enforce compliance? why would you worry about this, mr. chuck norris? that is, unless you have something to hide.... :wacko:

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yeah, why would you resist mandatory government training and visits to your home to enforce compliance? why would you worry about this, mr. chuck norris? that is, unless you have something to hide.... :wacko:

let me help you (and Mr. Norris) with the actual text of the bill:

 

SEC. 1904. GRANTS TO STATES FOR QUALITY HOME VISITATION PROGRAMS FOR FAMILIES WITH YOUNG CHILDREN AND FAMILIES EXPECTING CHILDREN.

Part B of title IV of the Social Security Act (42 U.S.C. 621-629i) is amended by adding at the end the following:CommentsClose CommentsPermalink

 

‘Subpart 3--Support for Quality Home Visitation Programs‘SEC. 440. HOME VISITATION PROGRAMS FOR FAMILIES WITH YOUNG CHILDREN AND FAMILIES EXPECTING CHILDREN.

‘(a) Purpose- The purpose of this section is to improve the well-being, health, and development of children by enabling the establishment and expansion of high quality programs providing voluntary home visitation for families with young children and families expecting children.

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Voluntary or not, they have know business telling anyone how to raise their own children.

 

If they want us to be like Europe, why don't they just all pack their bags and move there?

What is it about VOLUNTARY that is escaping you?

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It's not escaping me. I'm saying they have no business even asking, PERIOD.

 

We had a state funded program like this in Wyoming, where we lived when my son was born.

 

http://wdh.state.wy.us/familyhealth/homevisiting/index.html

 

You know Wyoming? The socialist center of the US?

 

We had 5 home visits in the first few weeks of our son's life. We found it a God Send; my wife and I loved it.

 

 

ETA: They did stuff like bring lights over for his jaundice condition and show his how to use it, checked his blood levels, and helped out with advice on feeding.

 

You people are straight up Kookoo for Coca Puff fear mongers; buying exactly what is being sold to y'all. :wacko:

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We had a state funded program like this in Wyoming, where we lived when my son was born.

 

http://wdh.state.wy.us/familyhealth/homevisiting/index.html

 

You know Wyoming? The socialist center of the US?

 

We had 5 home visits in the first few weeks of our son's life. We found it a God Send; my wife and I loved it.

 

 

ETA: They did stuff like bring lights over for his jaundice condition and show his how to use it, checked his blood levels, and helped out with advice on feeding.

 

You people are straight up Kookoo for Coca Puff fear mongers; buying exactly what is being sold to y'all. :wacko:

 

I'm glad they helped you out and hope your son is fine, however that was a STATE program. I'm all for State programs like this, but

the issue here is the FEDERAL GOVT.

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I'm glad they helped you out and hope your son is fine, however that was a STATE program. I'm all for State programs like this, but

the issue here is the FEDERAL GOVT.

 

The issue in the original post is using disingenuous scare tactics to push a political agenda. If it was purely about limited fed govt. then there wouldn't be a reason to state drivel like this :

 

Or would they teach some secular-progressive and religiously neutered version of parental values and wisdom? And if they were to consult and coach those who expect babies, would they ever decide circumstances to be not beneficial for the children and encourage abortions?

 

Which creates a false impression and scares people into saying stuff like this:

 

Voluntary or not, they have know business telling anyone how to raise their own children.
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