michaelman Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 (edited) Again, it doesn't matter how you view the trade, or the players involved. That's between the two people making the trade. Right.. and again The topic of this thread is ASKING ME HOW I VIEW THE TRADE. And the option to veto is up to each individual as well. Whether you personally believe in it or not. ...On the note of things that we don't like that are inherently part of the game... I would like basketball rims to be lowered to a height of 8 feet so that I can do 360 windmill dunks in games. Edited October 2, 2009 by michaelman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bankerboy Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Was this post even necessary? Probably not, but if you're going to correct people on their spelling...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelman Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 (edited) Probably not, but if you're going to correct people on their spelling...... haha.. I never said I was good at spelling. nor did I misspell a word that implied I should be good at it while boasting my superior intellect. Edited October 2, 2009 by michaelman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bankerboy Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 (edited) This is a joke. Randy Moss for Julius Jones?.. only one word comes to mind. COLLUSION. you should be kicked out of the league or just quit because you're either cheating or don't know squat about football.. let alone fantasy football. All the goal line carries? lol.... See...here's where you lost me. Your opinion on a trade might be...wow...I think Moss is much more valuable than Jones,...and it's not ever close! What you did what attempt to channel your inner Jim Rome and make it a personal attack.....no real need for that. Edited October 2, 2009 by bankerboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelman Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 alright.. I'm off for a few hours. Stop kidding yourselves.. Moss for Jones.. is ridiculous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bankerboy Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 alright.. I'm off for a few hours. Stop kidding yourselves.. Moss for Jones.. is ridiculous I agree with you that it's a trade I would never make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelman Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 See...here's where you lost me. You opinion on a trade is...wow...I think Moss is much more valuable than Jones,...and it's not ever close! What you did what attempt to channel your inner Jim Rome and make it a person attack.....no real need for that. There is never any need to make a personal attack. Why did I do it? Frankly I'm irritated by anyone that thinks Julius is worth Randy Moss. To the point that I don't mind being a dick. So yes.. amidst all of my replies are some opinion and some venting in the form of personal attacks. At least I fess up to it. Now it's your guys turn to admit Julius for Moss is ridic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bankerboy Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Yup, I can't see a scenario where I make that trade.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted October 2, 2009 Share Posted October 2, 2009 What does fair and equitable have to do with anything? If you want fair and equatable go join a church league where they don't keep score and everybody gets a trophy. Even if Moss straight up for Julius Jones is unequitable in value there are more factors at play then just those two players. The team trading Moss may be strong at WR and weak at RB and is looking to take a hit to his WRs to shore up his RBs to INCREASE THE OVERALL PERFORMANCE OF HIS TEAM. Last time I checked my score is the accumulation of the points from ALL of my players. Let's take a hypothetical: Presume this is my team: RB: LT, Gore, Bradshaw, Bush WR: Moss, SSmith (NYG), Vincent Jackson, Cotchery For the next several weeks I have a glaring hole at the RB position and will not score any points there. Why should I be prevented from trading one of my WRs for another player. And before you say I should trade one of my other WRs currently two of those WRs have more points than Moss and the other is right behind him. What a player has done in the past should not matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackass Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 I'm putting the Over/under on replies to this thread at 125 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phazool Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Let me begin with. "L O L" I didn't know that "acumen" was spelled with two C's... you're a sharp one. Wow.. are you really going to go into some TINY exception where some league makes RB's worth a lot to support your argument? I think we'll just be smarter and stick to the standard scoring format or something close to it. And a league NOT having a FLEX position Supports My claim... that you should compare RBS to RBS and WRS to WRS... think you confused yourself there mr. Double C Accumen. Damn, you got me, dude. I didn't spell acumen right, you win. While I'm basing my argument on scenarios relevant to fantasy football, your argument is based on my inability to spell. While your post doesn't really warrant (or is it warant) a response, I figured I'd rub your nose in your own poopy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle2003 Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Jones is the 7th highest scoring RB in my league and Moss is the 12th highest scoring WR. I personally think Moss is going to be a better overall player this year, but it is how it fits your lineup needs. Jones have a VERY easy schedule and I honestly think he will be top 10, if not top 8 RB this year due to that favorable schedule. If you pay money to manage a team you should be able to manage it. PERIOD. Why should everyone else in the league dictate what you do with your team. Are they going to reimburse you if they are wrong? Most likely not. So why should they run your team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby's Hubby Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 sgaf i almost started julius over moss at flex...instead i am benching jennings or ray rice to keep them both in.,., prob mistake b/c moss will not get a td again, but it is PPR and he is getting catches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 What does fair and equitable have to do with anything? If you want fair and equatable go join a church league where they don't keep score and everybody gets a trophy. This makes more sense than anything else in this thread. Trades should never be revoked unless there is evidence (or at least a strong suspicion) of collusion... in other words, money being exchanged under the table, etc. I just don't see that in this trade... looks more like somebody who is higher on Jones than most, and another who is more down on Moss than most, but not to the point of being crazy. Moss has gotten off to a slow start. Jones has had a couple of nice games. What gives anybody the right to revoke this trade based on what people speculated Moss or Jones MIGHT DO, in terms of projected numbers? If that is how a commissioner/league determines whether or not a trade should be allowed, then they had better assume that Owens' numbers are going to improve as well (since he has started just as slow as Moss, if not more-so). Here is a trade that recently went through in a keeper league that I commish: Matt Forte Roddy White Greg Jennings 2010 2nd, 6th, and 7th round picks for Ray Rice Joseph Addai Mark Clayton 2010 1st, and two 5th round picks The guy giving up Forte gave up three "studs" for Rice, a couple of scrubs (at least that's what everyone thought Addai was going to be, going into the season, right?) and three pick "upgrades"... not even close to what I would consider an even trade. But, as much as I didn't think it was even, the question I had to ask was whether or not I thought there was anything shady going on. I didn't, and I'm 100% sure there wasn't. As it turns out, the owner isn't too high on Forte this year (which certainly makes sense), and probably thinks Rice is going to be a stud (which he very well may be). Not "fair" or "even", but also not worthy of being revoked, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phazool Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTSuper7 Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Speculation based on fact and trends. The injury argument is not even relevant b/c it applies to both sides. I think YOU are hung up on the NAME RECOGNITION. Me on the other hand? I'm hung up with 40 pass targets to lead the NFL, and 26 pass receptions to lead the NFL, and That's with a struggling QB. The injury argument is relevant when Moss is admittedly hurting and limited in practice. And where are the TDs? But good for you. You like Moss more than Julius Jones. In one of my leagues Julius Jones has almost twice as many fantasy points as Randy Moss YTD. Jones also has a favorable schedule and is getting the majority of the carries (and is healthy). The name recognition thing works both ways (i.e. Julius Jones has sucked in the past, therefore he sucks now). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mucca Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Four votes should never be a majority, this is why I would never play in a league like this or with people like you. The only reason you would veto this trade would be, because you think it would be harder for your team to win. Four votes a majority, what crap. Let Owners manage their teams, not you and three whinny other teams afraid their team is worse off because of the trade. Get real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Muto Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 The trade should not have been veto'd as it cleary was not an attempt of trickey. I just wish I was in a league where I got traded a player like Randy Moss for a player like Julies Jones (in my mind) I just finished a draft a few hours ago here is where the 2 players went in this PPR draft 5th pick - Randy Moss 50th pick - Julies Jones But hey if Jones was the guy you really wanted by all means go out and get him. If your not sold on Moss then trade him. I assume you prolly took Moss in the 1st round ? I just personally have a hard time trading away my 1st round picks after 3 weeks into the season. Good luck with Jones the rest of the way and if Moss blows up or Jones lays down the rest of the year I will prolly come back to the thread but I tell you what if Jones blows up and Moss dies the rest of the way I will tell you ...you were right and I was wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Largent Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 let's get this straight. Randy Moss - who has been playing with a bad back with a HOF QB that is just getting the rust knocked off....for a mediocre talented RB on a team that is struggling offensively with injurires, and carries about 60% of the snaps, none of the goal line carries btw. Give me a break....I couldn't trade McGahee for Moss in my league right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonGhost Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Scrub leagues filled with scrub players....JJ hasn't even looked that good. Grats on the trade though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Muto Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 I think you have had your answer today folks Jones is a dog and Moss is a god Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Muto Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 sgaf i almost started julius over moss at flex...instead i am benching jennings or ray rice to keep them both in.,., prob mistake b/c moss will not get a td again, but it is PPR and he is getting catches Yep Moss prolly will never score again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTSuper7 Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 (edited) I think you have had your answer today folks If only Moss played against the Titans' horrible defense every week. ETA: Hey Henry, the word is spelled "probably" and has three syllables. Edited October 19, 2009 by MTSuper7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Muto Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 So how is this working out ? Julius Jones had 5 carries for 5 yards in his last game. To think that anyone in their right mind would think Julies Jones for Randy Moss was a good trade tells you a little about how you are not good at fantasy football if you even thought this was possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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