evil_gop_liars Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 in his first year in office, President Obama did better even than legendary arm-twister Lyndon Johnson in winning congressional votes on issues where he took a position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 Have to agree here! (how did i do) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 and his approval rating has dropped 30 points as a result Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 Have to agree here! (how did i do) Too few exclamation marks, though the font size helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 He has a super majority and the only thing he has passed and signed of any significance is the stimulus package which to date has had very questionable results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 He has done wonders for our international image so far, and has a methodical, pragmatic approach to dealing with most issues. Regardless of political party, having a thoughtful President that weighs all options is a positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 the only thing he has passed and signed of any significance is the stimulus package which to date has had very questionable results. here we go again....how on earth can you, at this point, even begin to measure the effect of the stimulus program? It may end up being viewed as the best money spent as it kept the enomony from completely falling off a cliff...or it may indeed end up being viewed as a total failure...but to evaluate "to date" doesn't just border on absurd...its the capitol of absurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caddyman Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 He has done wonders for our international image so far, and has a methodical, pragmatic approach to dealing with most issues. Regardless of political party, having a thoughtful President that weighs all options is a positive. That is debatable whether or not it has had an effect on our interests. Yes, people claim to like us more, although I am not sure how we know this, but our enemies still want to kill us. Iran is a mess, so are many other areas of the world. How has his new stance with the world helped us? Are we getting more support from the countries that like us more? Are there some folks that want to kill us less? Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 That is debatable whether or not it has had an effect on our interests. Yes, people claim to like us more, although I am not sure how we know this, but our enemies still want to kill us. Iran is a mess, so are many other areas of the world. How has his new stance with the world helped us? Are we getting more support from the countries that like us more? Are there some folks that want to kill us less? Seriously. A lot of your "platform" states that all mooslims want to kill us anyways . . so it doesnt matter what party is is President, that wont change. We alienated a lot of the world by blowing off Kyoto and invading Iraq. By recultivating a positive world view, particularly in BRIC and other developing nations, we can actually generate world support for some of our programs and have them shoulder some of the responsibility for guarding against terrorism versus our current role of "world policeman". that is extremely valuable in a long-term strategic sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 He has done wonders for our international image so far, and has a methodical, pragmatic approach to dealing with most issues. Regardless of political party, having a thoughtful President that weighs all options is a positive. he sure got alot done in copenhagen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 he sure got alot done in copenhagen Flak for not getting it done, flak if he had got ANYTHING done.......another no-win so far as you're concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westvirginia Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 here we go again....how on earth can you, at this point, even begin to measure the effect of the stimulus program? It may end up being viewed as the best money spent as it kept the enomony from completely falling off a cliff...or it may indeed end up being viewed as a total failure...but to evaluate "to date" doesn't just border on absurd...its the capitol of absurd. So you tell Perch that the stimulus can't be measured, then go on to say it kept the "enomony" from completely falling off a cliff. Hypocrite much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 he sure got alot done in copenhagen See that is what you fail to recognize . . . that RAISED perception of the US in the eyes of the world, but DIDNT put a crippling onus on the US to absorb most of the actual reform. If anything the LEFT is bashing Obama for not doing more, but he increased interantional opinion of the US while keeping our position intact. How can you NOT get behind that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 He has done wonders for our international image so far, and has a methodical, pragmatic approach to dealing with most issues. Regardless of political party, having a thoughtful President that weighs all options is a positive. Truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_gop_liars Posted January 13, 2010 Author Share Posted January 13, 2010 here we go again....how on earth can you, at this point, even begin to measure the effect of the stimulus program? It may end up being viewed as the best money spent as it kept the enomony from completely falling off a cliff...or it may indeed end up being viewed as a total failure...but to evaluate "to date" doesn't just border on absurd...its the capitol of absurd. So you tell Perch that the stimulus can't be measured, then go on to say it kept the "enomony" from completely falling off a cliff. Hypocrite much? Reading comprehension much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westvirginia Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 Reading comprehension much? You know, I got nothin' I totally misread what he was saying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 You know, I got nothin' I totally misread what he was saying... Kudos to you for admitting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_gop_liars Posted January 13, 2010 Author Share Posted January 13, 2010 You know, I got nothin' I totally misread what he was saying... You couldn't swing a dead cat without hitting a hypocrite in this thread, but some how you missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millerx Posted January 13, 2010 Share Posted January 13, 2010 The dude won a Nobel Prize for Christs' sake, that should tell you something about his accomplishments right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 here we go again....how on earth can you, at this point, even begin to measure the effect of the stimulus program? It may end up being viewed as the best money spent as it kept the enomony from completely falling off a cliff...or it may indeed end up being viewed as a total failure...but to evaluate "to date" doesn't just border on absurd...its the capitol of absurd. Wow, a little sensitive there? I said questionable to date. Questionable means questionable not good or bad as it is too early to determine the overall impact so it is questionable. Jump all over that if you want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 success! http://www.gallup.com/poll/125033/Obama-Ap...rism-Up-49.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 This is a real indication of how successful Obama and his gang have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosberg34 Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 (edited) here we go again....how on earth can you, at this point, even begin to measure the effect of the stimulus program? It may end up being viewed as the best money spent as it kept the enomony from completely falling off a cliff...or it may indeed end up being viewed as a total failure...but to evaluate "to date" doesn't just border on absurd...its the capitol of absurd. Can't be measured "to date"? Didn't the White House just release a report today (or was it yesterday?) saying the stimulus created 2 MILLION jobs? Here's a link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...0011203737.html I guess it can be measured. However, I have no way to verify the numbers and can only take them at their face value. Some are questioning the numbers, some aren't but I guess any progress is good. Edited January 14, 2010 by tosberg34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 This is a real indication of how successful Obama and his gang have been. I find this all HILARIOUS. Obama is getting ripped by not being "liberal enough" on some issues by the Dem party. The right keeps ripping Obama on . . well . . everything because he isnt Republican. It doesnt matter if Obama started packing heat, outlawing abortion and started shooting illegal aliens from a bell tower, the Repubs would STILL oppose him because he aint one of their own . . . Plus the fact that the incumbent party tends to ALWAYS struggle in mid-term elections . . . . What Perch, did you think that somehow the Dems would magically continue to capute every single seat in Congress? that there wouldnt be SOME backlash from voters? 40% of the country always votes Dem, doesnt matter who is running. 40% of the country always votes Repub, doesnt matter who is running 20% of the country determines who wins every election I read a great quote in Newsweek lately about the strategy of the right. Back in 1994 Gebhardt said to Gingrich "We have a health care plan ready to go, what is your plan?" Newt says "To make sure your plan fails then gain more seats in the next election cycle." Such is the nature of the different parties in DC. Libs "try" to get things done and fail. Repubs try to screw the Dems, and then gain more seats when the populace is pissed that the Dems could get anything done. Welcome to washington!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosberg34 Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 I find this all HILARIOUS. Obama is getting ripped by not being "liberal enough" on some issues by the Dem party. The right keeps ripping Obama on . . well . . everything because he isnt Republican. It doesnt matter if Obama started packing heat, outlawing abortion and started shooting illegal aliens from a bell tower, the Repubs would STILL oppose him because he aint one of their own . . . Plus the fact that the incumbent party tends to ALWAYS struggle in mid-term elections . . . . What Perch, did you think that somehow the Dems would magically continue to capute every single seat in Congress? that there wouldnt be SOME backlash from voters? 40% of the country always votes Dem, doesnt matter who is running. 40% of the country always votes Repub, doesnt matter who is running 20% of the country determines who wins every election I read a great quote in Newsweek lately about the strategy of the right. Back in 1994 Gebhardt said to Gingrich "We have a health care plan ready to go, what is your plan?" Newt says "To make sure your plan fails then gain more seats in the next election cycle." Such is the nature of the different parties in DC. Libs "try" to get things done and fail. Repubs try to screw the Dems, and then gain more seats when the populace is pissed that the Dems could get anything done. Welcome to washington!!!!!! I would say that strategy is employed on both sides, not just the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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