Azazello1313 Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 pretty close to what I've argued for all along The Standard Plan1.All Americans receive a voucher each year to purchase a standard plan from the private-plan provider of their choice. 2.Vouchers are individually risk-adjusted; those with higher expected healthcare costs, based on documented medical conditions, receive larger vouchers. 3.Participating insurance companies providing standard plans cannot deny coverage. 4.Each year a panel of doctors sets the coverages of the standard plan subject to a strict budget, namely that the total cost to the government of the vouchers cannot exceed 10 percent of GDP. 5.Insurance companies providing standard plans contract with private providers to cover their plan participants. 6.Americans choose doctors and hospitals included in the standard plan they choose. 7.Plan providers compete and provide incentives to improve participants' health and limit bad health practices. 8.Plan providers offer supplemental plans to their participants and cannot deny supplemental insurance coverage to their participants. 9.The government (federal and state) ends the tax exclusion of employer-provided health insurance premiums. 10.Like all other Americans, Medicare, Medicaid, and health exchange participants are covered by the Purple Health Plan subject to appropriate transition provisions. 11.The roughly 10 percent of GDP now spent or allocated by federal and state government on these and related programs, as well as on the tax exclusion of employer-provided health insurance premiums, is reallocated to help finance the vouchers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted April 6, 2011 Author Share Posted April 6, 2011 endorsers include 5 economic nobel laureates from across the spectrum, as well as one nobel peace laureate/community organizer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiegie Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 endorsers include 5 economic nobel laureates from across the spectrum, as well as one nobel peace laureate/community organizer since when do you give a crap about what nobel prize winning economists have to say? reference: http://berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/20...2_akerlof.shtml Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted April 6, 2011 Author Share Posted April 6, 2011 since when do you give a crap about what nobel prize winning economists have to say? reference: http://berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/20...2_akerlof.shtml just like you, I note that particular credential when they say something I agree with. akerlof was the first name on that list, edmund phelps was the second. do you have anything of substance to add here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mucca Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 endorsers include 5 economic nobel laureates from across the spectrum, as well as one nobel peace laureate/community organizer Seven above the community organizer Poon Tang Whore Big Mac Daddy Oldest Pro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 just like you, I note that particular credential when they say something I agree with. lol - well gotta respect the honesty there. I stopped thinking anything nobel meant anything when they gave the award to Obama w/o any valid justification. That aside, I like the plan, even tho IMO it's unworkable. eg who's going to pay for these "vouchers?" And good luck getting companies to sign up for this, esp when they read the "cannot deny" parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 (edited) Endorsers also include a sales rep, a student, Poon Tang Big Daddy Mac and 2 different Barak Obamas (one's a con artist the other a Mongolian) according to that site. Does Ben Dover and Hugh Jass endorse this also? Edited April 6, 2011 by bushwacked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubfoothead Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 351 words Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 6.Americans choose doctors and hospitals included in the standard plan they choose. Another brain dead limitation of this idiot system. Who the f**k takes the time to find out whether a doctor is in or out of network when they are dying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_gop_liars Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 bump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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borge007 Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 bump +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 bump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiegie Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 bump while funny, I wish you had not done this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 while funny, I wish you had not done this I'm not getting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 I'm not getting it. Look near the bottom of the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 Look near the bottom of the list. I was looking for wiegie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 while funny, I wish you had not done this Is this site legit, is it real? The "plan" consists of several bullet items and the endorsement process is uh.....not up to snuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Irish Doggy Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 This almost has the makings of a board invasion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted April 8, 2011 Author Share Posted April 8, 2011 while funny, I wish you had not done this it is funny, but I don't really appreciate it. even if it's just my anonymous internet alias. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_gop_liars Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 it is funny, but I don't really appreciate it. even if it's just my anonymous internet alias. So you don't agree with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted April 8, 2011 Author Share Posted April 8, 2011 Is this site legit, is it real? The "plan" consists of several bullet items and the endorsement process is uh.....not up to snuff. sure it is. it's not something that has funding or anything. just a basic framework for health reform that a lot of really smart economists across the spectrum happen to agree with. one guy probably emailed some others and got them to agree to list themselves as endorsers, and obviously then they put up a completely open signer page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 (edited) While I agree with the premise that "Neither piecemeal reform nor maintenance of the status quo will suffice" (which is what we've gotten so far) in regards to healthcare reform, I am a bit leery of the free-fly endorsement process. I looked at the endorsement page and searched political fact checking sites (to which I found nothing). This feels a lot like the "climatologists who disagree with the IPCC view on global warming" publication which included very few climatologists but literally had the Spice Girls and Mickey Mouse. I bet Rev. Wright doesn't appreciate his name on the endorsement page of the Purple Health Care Plan either. I was pretty excited on the preliminary basic framework of the recent reform. I was disappointed with it by the time it was signed into law. Methinks this would face the same fate. Let's face it, a fair majority of people here are petrified of any kind of HC reform. While there may be some additional support for this because it isn't Obamacare, over half the current Congress isn't going to favor any substantial solutions beyond status quo. Because anything that isn't status quo is Socialism. Edited April 8, 2011 by bushwacked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 sure it is. it's not something that has funding or anything. just a basic framework for health reform that a lot of really smart economists across the spectrum happen to agree with. one guy probably emailed some others and got them to agree to list themselves as endorsers, and obviously then they put up a completely open signer page. or , based on the ease with which it can be doctored, the list was created by a college nerd who imported hundreds of names of prestigious educators and economists from around the country, as well as some really smart people. ...and Perch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiegie Posted April 8, 2011 Share Posted April 8, 2011 it is funny, but I don't really appreciate it. even if it's just my anonymous internet alias. exactly (it's sort of like that time I had to go on the local news for a live-blogging session about the financial crisis and somebody here, won't say who, posted the link and then people started posting fake questions to me. It was funny, but not appreciated. Not all that is funny among friedns is appropriate.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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