Ursa Majoris Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Looks like Roger Ebert needs to stay classy... link How classy is it to drive chitfaced at over 100 mph without giving a crap about anyone else? Not at all, IMO. Darwinism is still working as it should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Like Soup Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Either way, a pretty weak attempt at hughmor. I don't know, it coined a common phrase and rolled in Dunn's path to fame all up in one shot. Not to mention, the irony at play... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 (edited) How classy is it to drive chitfaced at over 100 mph without giving a crap about anyone else? not classy at all. however, some might suggest that paying with his life is probably enough comeuppance without rubbing it in the face of those who mourn his passing. Edited June 21, 2011 by Azazello1313 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 I am glad his irresponsible actions didnt harm anyone else besides his passenger. This coulda been a LOT worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 I don't know, it coined a common phrase and rolled in Dunn's path to fame all up in one shot. Not to mention, the irony at play... I guess it's not much different than some of our zingers in - say - the "bear killed motorist" thread. Difference is, we're not public figures that should know better and have more class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiegie Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 I guess it's not much different than some of our zingers in - say - the "bear killed motorist" thread. Difference is, we're not public figures that should know better and have more class. If more people had an attitude like Ebert, less people would die from dunk drivers. I think his point was to illustrate that the guy died because he was an idiot not because he was some sort of hero. If people start to think that they will be mocked and ill-remembered if they kill themselves from drunk driving (rather than having people think they went out in some sort of blaze of glory), it provides yet another implicit "cost" to consider when deciding whether or not to drink and drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 If more people had an attitude like Ebert, less people would die from dunk drivers. I think his point was to illustrate that the guy died because he was an idiot not because he was some sort of hero. If people start to think that they will be mocked and ill-remembered if they kill themselves from drunk driving (rather than having people think they went out in some sort of blaze of glory), it provides yet another implicit "cost" to consider when deciding whether or not to drink and drive. We're entering a realm that I unfortunately know all too much about; so much so that I should probably cease involvement here. Carry on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 he thought he was being cute with his play on words but came out looking like a tool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiegie Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Posted on Tue, Jun. 21, 2011 08:42 PM'Jackass' star Dunn had received at least 23 driving citations By JEREMY ROEBUCK AND KATHLEEN BRADY SHEA The Philadelphia Inquirer Friends of "Jackass" star Ryan Dunn knew him as an adrenaline junkie behind the wheel, a lover of fast cars with a devil-may-care demeanor on the roads. And he had a record to prove it. In the 13 years before his death Monday in a fiery Chester County crash, Dunn was cited at least 23 times, including 10 stops for speeding and careless driving and three more for driving with a suspended license. Among those violations - 90 percent of which ended in guilty pleas - was a 2005 DUI arrest. Charges were dropped when Dunn completed a probationary program, with suspension of his license for more than a year, according to court records. "He drove too fast," April Margera, mother of Dunn's friend and "Jackass" co-star Brandon "Bam" Margera, told Philadelphia TV station NBC10 on Monday. "I yelled at him all the time about that." The day after Dunn's death, several friends echoed her assessment as police continued to investigate the fatal collision, and family members went about making funeral plans for the TV daredevil and his passenger, 30-year-old Zachary Hartwell. West Goshen Township police said they believe Dunn, 34, of West Chester, was driving at least 130 mph early Monday when his Porsche 911 GT3 veered off the Route 322 bypass near the Pottstown Pike exit. The vehicle slammed through a guardrail, tumbled into a wooded ravine, hit a tree and burst into flames. The impact was so strong, investigators said, that it shattered the car. Preliminary autopsy results released Tuesday found that Dunn and Hartwell died of blunt and thermal trauma, but toxicology results to show whether alcohol played a role are not expected for weeks. Dunn had posted a photo of himself drinking with Hartwell at a West Chester bar only hours before the crash. Outpourings of grief from fans, family and Hollywood colleagues continued Tuesday both in public forums and in private. About a dozen cars were parked at the crash site just before 3 p.m., where well-wishers added to a collection of flowers and cards. Several of Dunn's friends declined to comment, out of respect, they said, for his family's wishes. Others described him as a master behind the wheel despite his speed-demon tendencies. He frequently entered the Gumball 3000, an annual racing bacchanal that attracts sports-car drivers from around the world for a 3,000-mile breakneck trek on public roads. In the 2003 race, Dunn squared off against a field of drivers that included Bam Margera and the skateboarder Tony Hawk. Another competitor that year is credited with receiving the speeding ticket for driving most over the limit in the world - 242 in a 75 m.p.h. zone - while on the course. Hartwell had a behind-the-scenes connection to "Jackass." He was credited as a production assistant on the film "Jackass Number Two" and appeared as a stunt car driver in Bam Margera's 2009 film, "Minghags." On Tuesday, Hartwell was remembered as an Iraq War veteran and longtime friend of Dunn's who married his high school sweetheart, Rachel, less than a year ago. At the stone home the Hartwells shared just yards from the crash site, two flower arrangements graced the doorstep. Two people who arrived at the residence asked that the family be granted privacy. A private funeral for Dunn was planned for Wednesday. Plans for a public memorial service are also in the works, according to his obituary. The Kansas-based Westboro Baptist Church, whose right to protest a Marine's funeral was recently upheld by the Supreme Court, promised to picket any memorials held for Dunn in coming weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furd Posted June 22, 2011 Author Share Posted June 22, 2011 Ebert is an assh*le. To publicly mock two dead people, particularly based upon supposition and sketchy facts, is pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 (edited) How classy is it to drive chitfaced at over 100 mph without giving a crap about anyone else? Not at all, IMO. Darwinism is still working as it should. Not classy at all. My wife lost four relatives that way. She decided to not be in that car herself on that day right at the last moment. But nobody tweeted anything stupid in that case. Ebert's depiction could be spot on, but who died and left him in charge? Why did he take it upon himself to reserve judgement of the reason for a fatal accident? Edited June 22, 2011 by MikesVikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiegie Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Ebert's depiction could be spot on, but who died and left him in charge? he's not in charge of anything. He called a Showtime Rotisseriebag a Showtime Rotisseriebag, if people want to listen to him fine, if not, that is fine too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Not classy at all. My wife lost four relatives that way. She decided to not be in that car herself on that day right at the last moment. But nobody tweeted anything stupid in that case. Ebert's depiction could be spot on, but who died and left him in charge? Why did he take it upon himself to reserve judgement of the reason for a fatal accident? That's the nature of social media. It enables free speech to be even louder and more widespread but all of us have the choice as to whether to listen or not. I choose not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Agent Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 He was wasted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubfoothead Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I get the point I think Ebert was trying to make. Due his delivery he probably failed to make it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 That's the nature of social media. It enables free speech to be even louder and more widespread but all of us have the choice as to whether to listen or not. I choose not. I think people don't realize how something they could probably quip to their friends for a quick laugh without it being a hugh deal can get blown entirely out of proportion if they tweet, blog, or FB it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiegie Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 I think people don't realize how something they could probably quip to their friends for a quick laugh I don't think Ebert wrote it to be funny. Also, concerning my thoughts on thinking that Dunn is dooooshbag: I would give him the benefit of the doubt that he made a one-time mistake except that (1) he was busted for a DUI before and (2) he was driving like an idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furd Posted June 22, 2011 Author Share Posted June 22, 2011 Also, concerning my thoughts on thinking that Dunn is dooooshbag: I would give him the benefit of the doubt that he made a one-time mistake except that (1) he was busted for a DUI before and (2) he was driving like an idiot. Either way, he's dead and another guy is dead and a woman just became a widow. Its just a swell time for a smarmy PSA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiegie Posted June 22, 2011 Share Posted June 22, 2011 Either way, he's dead and another guy is dead and a woman just became a widow. Its just a swell time for a smarmy PSA. It actually might be the most effective time for a PSA since the effects of his DUI are still rawly evident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Like Soup Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 I get the point I think Ebert was trying to make. Due his delivery he probably failed to make it. I think it is pretty obvious. You'd have to be a jackass not to get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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