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The Bucs are very young and were probably one of the harder hit teams by the lockout because they lost all that off-season work. Young guys need that time more than the vets. I think the Freeman and the Bucs will only get better, both in general and statistically, as the season goes on.

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I was optimistically high on Freeman going in to the season after watching his highlight reel on YouTube from last season, so I drafted him for what I thought was going to be a few games until Peyton Manning was ready. Freeman really has a lot of ability, but I've come to the conclusion that the Bucs are primarily a running, grind-it-out, conservative type of offense. Not a big-play type of offense that gets big chunks of yardage. In a season where 400+ and 300+ yard passing efforts are a dime-a-dozen, it's pretty amazing that in Freeman's entire career, I don't think he's even thrown for over 300 yards once. That's not good if you're in a league that awards bonus points for 300+ yard efforts. Shoot, Cam Newton and Andy Dalton are putting up bigger nos. My conclusion, at least from a fantasy perspective is that Freeman is not a good Fantasy QB. He's a pretty good real-world QB though. I immediately picked up Rex Grossman off waivers in the preseason when it became obvious that Petyon's injury was worse than anticipated and have been going with Rex ever since.

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I was optimistically high on Freeman going in to the season after watching his highlight reel on YouTube from last season, so I drafted him for what I thought was going to be a few games until Peyton Manning was ready. Freeman really has a lot of ability, but I've come to the conclusion that the Bucs are primarily a running, grind-it-out, conservative type of offense. Not a big-play type of offense that gets big chunks of yardage. In a season where 400+ and 300+ yard passing efforts are a dime-a-dozen, it's pretty amazing that in Freeman's entire career, I don't think he's even thrown for over 300 yards once. That's not good if you're in a league that awards bonus points for 300+ yard efforts. Shoot, Cam Newton and Andy Dalton are putting up bigger nos. My conclusion, at least from a fantasy perspective is that Freeman is not a good Fantasy QB. He's a pretty good real-world QB though. I immediately picked up Rex Grossman off waivers in the preseason when it became obvious that Petyon's injury was worse than anticipated and have been going with Rex ever since.

 

 

I completely agree... Freeman is manger QB. He manages the game for his team to win. He doesn't command an offense like Brady, Bree or hell even Newton.

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Fantasy-wise, Aikman is probably a pretty good call. Freeman doesn't take the risk that many QB's take, and probably doesn't have the depth at WR that would be needed to be a high-flying aerial assault type QB. Not that he'll never get there, but this was the main reason that I didn't consider him for my fantasy teams. He's not a let-it-loose gunslinger, yet. He's still incredibly early in his development. It may take a while, but if he gets more explosive weapons, big numbers could happen.

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Fantasy-wise, Aikman is probably a pretty good call. Freeman doesn't take the risk that many QB's take, and probably doesn't have the depth at WR that would be needed to be a high-flying aerial assault type QB. Not that he'll never get there, but this was the main reason that I didn't consider him for my fantasy teams. He's not a let-it-loose gunslinger, yet. He's still incredibly early in his development. It may take a while, but if he gets more explosive weapons, big numbers could happen.

 

i think that's a fair analysis.

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Tampa homer here...an Aikman like game manager is exactly what coach RahMo has been preaching since they drafted Freeman. The local press touts the same before/during/after each game.

 

From a fantasy POV the FF talking heads were gaga over the kid's 2010 TD-Int ratio (25:6) and assumed increased production using those numbers as a base line. Realistically, I don't think anyone in the Bucs brain trust expects Freeman to exceed that level of play this year.

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From a fantasy POV the FF talking heads were gaga over the kid's 2010 TD-Int ratio (25:6) and assumed increased production using those numbers as a base line. Realistically, I don't think anyone in the Bucs brain trust expects Freeman to exceed that level of play this year.

 

 

I didn't do much research and made the mistake of making him my #1 in a league where I waited 'till the 6th round... how can you not love those #s + about 400 yards rushing?

 

On further review, his TD's were pumped up by the Seattle game where he threw for 5... the rest of the season he only passed for 1 TD or less in 9 games.

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i think that's a fair analysis.

Fair, realistic but potentially early to make that call. Watching that team and it seems they are young everywhere and aren't quite built to put up crazy #s. And I don't think it's by design just reality in Tampa at the moment. It's like they're a season and a half behind The Falcons, assuming the falcons start putting up big #s consistently this year...

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in general not a fan because i just see him as a 200-220 kind of guy.... rarely scores mult td's. also don't love 4 games vs NOS and ATL (and his 11 schedule).

 

 

just checked some game logs from last year:

freeman:

7 games with mult tds

7 games under 200 yds

5 games with over 250 yds

 

ben:

2 games under 200 yds

5 mult td games

8 games over 250

3 300 yd games

 

schaub:

8 mult td games

4 games under 200

10 games over 250

7 300 yd games

 

romo (distorted due to short season...i am counting 5 games):

0 games under 200

4 games over 250

2 games over 300

3 mult td games

8 ints in 5 games though

 

 

part 2.......

 

cutler:

6 games under 200

4 over 250

1 over 300

7 mult td games

16 int's

didn't see number of fumbles lost

 

bradford:

7 under 200

5 over 250

1 300 yd game

6 mult td games

15 ints

 

stafford (3 games played)

1 under 200

none over 250

2 mult td games

only 1 int

 

 

ryan:

4 games under 200

6 over 250

1 300 yd game

9 mult td games

9 ints

 

 

and for kicks:

 

eli manning:

6 games under 200

8 games over 250

4 300 yd games

11 mult td games

25 ints

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Fair, realistic but potentially early to make that call. Watching that team and it seems they are young everywhere and aren't quite built to put up crazy #s. And I don't think it's by design just reality in Tampa at the moment. It's like they're a season and a half behind The Falcons, assuming the falcons start putting up big #s consistently this year...

 

agree. that was pointed out in his post.

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