tazinib1 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Makes me wanna gag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menudo Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Here we go again..................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted January 26, 2012 Author Share Posted January 26, 2012 (edited) Nah...this post will probably die if I don't keep replying to it. Sorry bro...but the speeches made me want to vomit. He did a TON of great things..but the one thing he DIDN'T do speaks volumes. And you can quote,post,copy any article or speech you want to differ....the point is that he will be remembered NOT for what he did, but for what he did NOT do. Sorry....plain and simple. Edited January 26, 2012 by tazinib1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godtomsatan Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Really? Phil Knight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muck Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Makes me wanna gag. Why'd you watch it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caddyman Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Nah...this post will probably die if I don't keep replying to it. Sorry bro...but the speeches made me want to vomit. He did a TON of great things..but the one thing he DIDN'T do speaks volumes. And you can quote,post,copy any article or speech you want to differ....the point is that he will be remembered NOT for what he did, but for what he did NOT do. Sorry....plain and simple. Yep...a lot of those people that spoke yesterday should be ashamed of themselves. They are really blind as to what is going on outside of the Joe Paterno world. That's the sad part. So much focus on this old man that should have gone away ten years ago, but was too selfish to do the right thing on so many levels. Yet he is adored by so many. Hopefully this all ends soon as far as Joe. Move on...everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNOWBOUND33 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Really? Phil Knight? +1 No more shoes from Indonesia for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Really? Phil Knight? It should come as no surprise really. Same reason guys like Coach K and the like speak out in his defense. They're all in the inner circle. Just like Hollywood or D.C. these guys get enough run and acclaim that they truly think their poop doesn't stink. That what they're doing is so important that "indiscretions" should be taken lightly when compared to their greatness. It's why politicians convince themselves that getting into bed with sleazeballs is "worth it". It's the reason why some dude who makes a living pretending to be other people thinks we should give two poops about what they have to say we should be doing to save the economy or planet while he flies around in a private jet. And it's the reason why a guy whose job is to win football games can convince himself that program matters over all things, because who will be there to take these amazingly gifted athletes and trade them life lessons for wins that put $$ in the coach's bank account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Really? Phil Knight? Were you expecting Suge Knight instead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonorator Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 nobody likes facing up to the fact that their hero was a fraud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Really? Phil Knight? I turned to ESPN l last night to hear Knight say something along the lines of.....'if there is any criminal activity, it's in the investigation' Are you F'n kidding me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbpfan1231 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 What is all this news about Paterno? I have been a bit out of touch the last 6 months - did he break some sort of college record or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caddyman Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 What is all this news about Paterno? I have been a bit out of touch the last 6 months - did he break some sort of college record or something? When did you get elected as a democratic senator from Wisconsin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 What is all this news about Paterno? I have been a bit out of touch the last 6 months - did he break some sort of college record or something? When did you get elected as a democratic senator from Wisconsin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNOWBOUND33 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 What is all this news about Paterno? I have been a bit out of touch the last 6 months - did he break some sort of college record or something? Oh yea, he turned out to be the biggest fraud since Milli Vanilli. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 What is all this news about Paterno? I have been a bit out of touch the last 6 months - did he break some sort of college record or something? Oh, really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godtomsatan Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Were you expecting Suge Knight instead? That would have made things a little more interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 That would have made things a little more interesting. That would have been interesting . . . who knew they were so close? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 Oh yea, he turned out to be the biggest fraud since Milli Vanilli. Which one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 Why'd you watch it? I was lazy and couldn't find the remote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkhorse1251 Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 I came a little late to this party, but I do have to say this. I really didn't see the greatness Paterno is given credit for, I just saw him as a coach with a ton of wins. I saw how the scandal played out. I agreed he had to be canned. I also noticed that the way the media pushed, someone was going to be crucified. Being the face of the school, I even agreed with it. What I don't agree with, is the notion that he is as bad as the person who committed the crimes. I also don't think that he isn't due respect for what he did in life. I just think that for a society that dubs itself to be so Christian, we sure our quick to vilify at the first sign of trouble. Being an outside observer, I am more appalled at the media's lack of coverage on the actual case itself and that of the victims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Next Generation Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 I came a little late to this party, but I do have to say this. I really didn't see the greatness Paterno is given credit for, I just saw him as a coach with a ton of wins. I saw how the scandal played out. I agreed he had to be canned. I also noticed that the way the media pushed, someone was going to be crucified. Being the face of the school, I even agreed with it. What I don't agree with, is the notion that he is as bad as the person who committed the crimes. I also don't think that he isn't due respect for what he did in life. I just think that for a society that dubs itself to be so Christian, we sure our quick to vilify at the first sign of trouble. Being an outside observer, I am more appalled at the media's lack of coverage on the actual case itself and that of the victims. Quality post right there. I agree 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otis29 Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 What I don't agree with, is the notion that he is as bad as the person who committed the crimes. I also don't think that he isn't due respect for what he did in life. I've seen this line of argument, and I think it's really a red herring. I've seen very few people claiming JoePa to be "as bad as the person committing the crimes". So it's not really worth using as an arguing point IMO. I can't say that he isn't due some respect for some things he's done, but his actions make me wonder if "all the great things he's done in his life" is more myth than reality. If you don't have the moral fortitude to make sure a pedophile isn't operating around your football program, it makes me question what less morally questionable things you'd let slide, when getting ever conceivable edge possible was a necessity for a big-time college football coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonorator Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 If you don't have the moral fortitude to make sure a pedophile isn't operating around your football program, it makes me question what less morally questionable things you'd let slide, when getting ever conceivable edge possible was a necessity for a big-time college football coach. actually, this does not make me question less moral things, this one thing is all i need. this is the whopper. you have a guy who refused to make this a bigger issue to protect his football program and his reputation. and to this point of equating him with sandusky, honestly, i don't know which one is worse. a pedophile is a screwed up person who needs help. a person who covers for a pedophile to protect his own reputation, even at the expense of the well being of children, knowingly, does seem to me to be worse in many ways ... one is sick, the other made a deliberate choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNOWBOUND33 Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 actually, this does not make me question less moral things, this one thing is all i need. this is the whopper. you have a guy who refused to make this a bigger issue to protect his football program and his reputation. and to this point of equating him with sandusky, honestly, i don't know which one is worse. a pedophile is a screwed up person who needs help. a person who covers for a pedophile to protect his own reputation, even at the expense of the well being of children, knowingly, does seem to me to be worse in many ways ... one is sick, the other made a deliberate choice. Pretty well said. Who is more sick? The catholic priests who molested thousands of boys or the last two popes, especially the current one who wrote the rules on how to hide a priest which was accepted by the last enabler pope. I'll stop there for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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