Roughrider401 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 How much worse can they get? I have a hard time considering them a Super Bowl contender if this keeps up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 That single garbage time touchdown vs the Falcons was unforgivable! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 If it wasn’t for the ‘make it foggy’ button on Bill’s Surface Pro, they probably would have given up a 50 spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 There defense is way behind where it was last year, in 2017 they have most yards given up, most yards/play, 6th in points allowed. 2nd in net passing yards/attempt, 4th in rushing yards/att. Last year most fo those numbers were around 25th place, higher numbers are better. Not sure that means they are not SB contenders, as long as Brady is QB and BB is coach I think they're a contender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAUgrad Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Defense wins championships! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelredd9 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 When a team has a quarterback like Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, or Peyton Manning, they can win a Super Bowl with an average defense. In fact, teams with dominant passing offenses have won Super Bowls with downright bad defenses. A team winning a Super Bowl because of a dominant defense, like the Baltimore Ravens, is now a rarity. And in this era of parity, a team being dominant on both sides of the ball, like New England was last year, is incredibly rare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doobwaa Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 they didn't look too bad last week.... hope they sh!t the bed this week tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelredd9 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 37 minutes ago, doobwaa said: they didn't look too bad last week.... hope they sh!t the bed this week tho They've looked good for the last 3 weeks giving up only 14, 17, and 7 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougsul Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Not sure I agree with that, two weeks ago McCowan had what 354 passing yards. I would not call that good. Winston had 330 I believe and they are dead last in fantasy scoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stethant Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 Hightower out for the year is not going to help them one iota. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelredd9 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) 32 minutes ago, dougsul said: Not sure I agree with that, two weeks ago McCowan had what 354 passing yards. I would not call that good. Winston had 330 I believe and they are dead last in fantasy scoring. OP wasn't talking about fantasy stats but whether NE's defense would prevent them from winning the Super Bowl. Defenses on teams with dominant offenses often give up a lot of yardage because opposing offenses will air it out and take chances. They know if they play it conservatively that they'll lose. In addition to big yardage, it also often leads to a lot of turnovers and not necessarily touchdowns. When a defense gives up few real points, it is playing well regardless of inflated fantasy stats. But the Patriots defense hasn't given up that many fantasy points these last 3 weeks either. Quarterbacks have averaged the 12th most fantasy points, running backs 24th most fantasy points, wide receivers the 6th most fantasy points, and tight ends the 18th most fantasy points over the last 3 weeks. That is pretty average overall and is a big improvement over the first 4 weeks of the season. Edited October 26, 2017 by michaelredd9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 I too missed the "real vs. fantasy" football part as I was responding. Yes they're much better the last 3 weeks in points allowed, average the first 4 was 32, around 12 the last 3 (about 25 for season). While scoring a lot may lead to a lot of turnovers that isn't the case so far with only one per game on average, and only about 2 sacks/game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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