Jackass Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 1/14 4:30 ET New Orleans -3.5 At San Francisco 47.5 1/14 8:00 ET At New England -13.5 Denver 51 1/15 1:00 ET At Baltimore -8 Houston 35.5 1/15 4:30 ET At Green Bay -8.5 NY Giants 52 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I'd take the fav in every game except GB/NY as IMO NY can easily win this. Not saying they will per se but would not surprise me at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTSuper7 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 1/14 4:30 ET New Orleans -3.5 At San Francisco 47.51/14 8:00 ET At New England -13.5 Denver 51 1/15 1:00 ET At Baltimore -8 Houston 35.5 1/15 4:30 ET At Green Bay -8.5 NY Giants 52 Â - I can see the Giants winning outright. 8.5 is a LOT here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 13ers Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I can see the Giants trying to grind it out this time. I think they are better at clock control than a 1000 yard passing day by the QB's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I like the over on the Packers-Giants game: 52. I think it will be a high scoring affair. Â Â yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) Loving GB -8.5 for exactly the commentary above. This smells like a set up for a trap game for the Giant bettors. GB covering a TD and a FG in GB against a 9-7 team that's getting way too much credit for knocking off some mediocre teams recently looks like some easy money to me. Edited January 9, 2012 by Bronco Billy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 1/14 4:30 ET New Orleans -3.5 At San Francisco 47.5 Â Vegas is beggin bettors to take the home team getting 3.5, hoping they'll think "Wow, a team that earned a first-round bye is actually getting points at home, and they can lose by a FG and I still win my wager". Â Don't fall for it. Saints 34, 49ers 23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) - I can see the Giants winning outright. 8.5 is a LOT here. The money line is +320 on the Giants. That's pretty nice if you like them straight up. Edited January 9, 2012 by detlef Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Loving GB -8.5 for exactly the commentary above. This smells like a set up for a trap game for the Giant bettors. GB covering a TD and a FG in GB against a 9-7 team that's getting way too much credit for knocking off some mediocre teams recently looks like some easy money to me. Â Â Donty neccesarily disagree but GB has a pretty poor Defense that gives up points and the Giants have shown some offense explosion as of late. Dont Forget it took a late drive for GB to eek out a 3 point win the last time they played. i realize that was on the road and this is a home playoff game in GB but the Giants D line and their ability to score points as well as GB's average D gives a bettor something to think about with 8.5. GB obviously has a deadly O as well. It isnt an easy game to jump on as far as the winner and the points but I do think the over looks like a solid play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Vegas is beggin bettors to take the home team getting 3.5, hoping they'll think "Wow, a team that earned a first-round bye is actually getting points at home, and they can lose by a FG and I still win my wager". Don't fall for it. Saints 34, 49ers 23  This one also has the smell of a trap. NO is definietly different on the road than they are at home, and playing in SF in Jan. could lead to some weather conditions that will hinder passing teams. This is a team that actually got beaten by TB and STL on the road when both teams controlled the game by running the ball well, and NO is much more prone to very close games away than they are to blowing out opponenets.  I don't think I touch this one, but if someone put a gun to my head and I had to bet it or die, I think I'd lean to SF in this one. The playing conditions could be the MVP of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Donty neccesarily disagree but GB has a pretty poor Defense that gives up points and the Giants have shown some offense explosion as of late. Dont Forget it took a late drive for GB to eek out a 3 point win the last time they played. i realize that was on the road and this is a home playoff game in GB but the Giants D line and their ability to score points as well as GB's average D gives a bettor something to think about with 8.5. GB obviously has a deadly O as well. It isnt an easy game to jump on as far as the winner and the points but I do think the over looks like a solid play. Â I'm still going to have to disagree. I see a couple of NY turnovers leading to a big lead by GB, and the Giants' pass rush isn't going to rattle Rodgers. He'll expose the NY secondary. If you're going to rely on the game in NY as your measuring stick, I think that's exactly what Vegas is hoping for also. The Giants were 9-7 for a reason. I can easily see GB doing to them what NO did to them in NO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 This one also has the smell of a trap. NO is definietly different on the road than they are at home, and playing in SF in Jan. could lead to some weather conditions that will hinder passing teams. This is a team that actually got beaten by TB and STL on the road when both teams controlled the game by running the ball well, and NO is much more prone to very close games away than they are to blowing out opponenets. Â I don't think I touch this one, but if someone put a gun to my head and I had to bet it or die, I think I'd lean to SF in this one. The playing conditions could be the MVP of the game. I wish everyone who mentioned "you know how the weather can be, January in SF" were right. In reality, there are few places more mild during that time of year. Trust me, I would love it if some freak storm blew through but here's the forecast for the next week. Now, Candlestick is known to be colder and windier than the city proper, but that's about it. And it appears we're looking at less than 10 mph winds for the area in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 This one also has the smell of a trap. NO is definietly different on the road than they are at home, and playing in SF in Jan. could lead to some weather conditions that will hinder passing teams. This is a team that actually got beaten by TB and STL on the road when both teams controlled the game by running the ball well, and NO is much more prone to very close games away than they are to blowing out opponenets. Â I don't think I touch this one, but if someone put a gun to my head and I had to bet it or die, I think I'd lean to SF in this one. The playing conditions could be the MVP of the game. Â Does that happen often? Do they give you the money to place the bet? And have a bookie or betting site all lined up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 As to the AFC games, I could definitely see NE covering that spread but it's just too big for me to get comfortable with, especially since DEN's OC has shown that he'll now open the playbook a little bit before the middle of the 4th quarter. DEN is playing with house money right now and could manage a solid game. My lean would be to the NE end, but I couldn't bring myself to putting anything on it. Â And there's not a chance in hell I'd play the BAL/HOU game. HOU with that D getting 8 is tempting, but that means Yates will have to play well, and taking that chance playing in BAL is just too much risk. And there's no way I'd ever give 8 and take a team QBed by Flacco. Thi one could end up being an old fashioned slobber knocker with either team struggling to get to double digits on the scoreboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 This one also has the smell of a trap. NO is definietly different on the road than they are at home, and playing in SF in Jan. could lead to some weather conditions that will hinder passing teams. This is a team that actually got beaten by TB and STL on the road when both teams controlled the game by running the ball well, and NO is much more prone to very close games away than they are to blowing out opponenets. Â I don't think I touch this one, but if someone put a gun to my head and I had to bet it or die, I think I'd lean to SF in this one. The playing conditions could be the MVP of the game. Â I agree with your analysis, and would buy into it except Vegas putting "the hook" on this game tells me they think they'll be begging for 49ers action. If the spread was -3, I think you'd get more Saints action, and if at -2.5, it would be all on the Saints. Moving it to -3.5 is just enough to get folks to jump on the 49ers.... Â To a degree, I also like the Packers and that -8.5 line. Everyone who watches football knows the Giants have been playing well as of late, and with the luster off the Packers a tad after they lost to the Chiefs, I could see a ton of action coming in on the Giants at that price. I don't buy it. Everyone is saying how well the Giants are playing, and they have indeed upped their game a bit....but remember, their win this weekend was a 2-0 game well into the 2nd quarter. That ugly Falcons dome team on the road is in no way the Packers in Lambeau. Â Packers 38, Giants 24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt770 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I think the Giants can win if they can consistently pressure Rodgers and limit the deep ball. What scares me is those few plays where he has time and torches them downfield. He only needs a few opportunities like that to blow the game open. I could see the Giants hanging in there for 3 quarters, then the game gets away from them and they lose by 2 or 3 touchdowns. To actually win the game they may need to force some mistakes, maybe get a pick-6, and that's a tall order with Rodgers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 When I see a line like 8.5, I'm reminded that looks a whole lot worse as a point spread than it does as a final score. I mean, if GB beats NY 40-30, does that mean they totally housed them? That kind of game could be really close until one team scores late to put it away. Â I guess before I paid $110 to wine $100 that the Giants keep it close, I'd pay $100 to win $320 that they just win it outright. That is, if I even liked that side of the bet to begin with. Â Same sort of goes with the Niners. I sort of see the game unfolding one of two ways. If NO does what they've led us to believe they should do, they win this thing by at least a TD. On the other hand, if Harbaugh dials something special up, the D plays out of their minds, and Smith finds another gear, then the Niners could pull this one out and win the thing. Â Well, except the money line isn't the bit payout that the Giants game is, paying +165 for the outright win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantsfan Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) Here is my issue with the Giant/GB game. If it was a quiet we like GB situation I would feel good. It is not. A lot of people picking the Giants to at least keep it close and saying we can win. That scares me. GB is hearing a lot of watch out. The Giants are playing great. They can win in GB. They look like the 2007 Giants. JPP saying we will win. A LOT of stuff out there for GB to hear and read. Â That scares me as a Giants fan. We are getting way too much pub as a 9-7 team. Way too many people on the band wagon, or at the very least saying we have a shot for sure in this one. I don't like that at all. GB will not be caught off guard. They will be ready, rested, and home after reading and hearing about the Giants all week, and how some of the luster is off of GB...who still was a 15-1 team BTW. Â Scares me...so I would lean GB, but most likely wouldn't touch the game. Â Love Baltimore as my best bet. Edited January 9, 2012 by giantsfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt770 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Here is my issue with the Giant/GB game. If it was a quiet we like GB situation I would feel good. It is not. A lot of people picking the Giants to at least keep it close and saying we can win. That scares me. GB is hearing a lot of watch out. The Giants are playing great. They can win in GB. They look like the 2007 Giants. JPP saying we will win. A LOT of stuff out there for GB to hear and read. Not buying any of it. The press likes to make a lot of this stuff because they need something to talk about. A professional team's preparation and intensity on the field should not be affected by smack talk or conjecture about whether the next opponent can beat them. If that stuff becomes a factor, the coach isn't doing his job. The Packers will be prepared and will give the Giants all they can handle because they are a well-coached and talented team and they want to repeat as champions, period. I don't think it matters which team is coming to town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) Not buying any of it. The press likes to make a lot of this stuff because they need something to talk about. A professional team's preparation and intensity on the field should not be affected by smack talk or conjecture about whether the next opponent can beat them. If that stuff becomes a factor, the coach isn't doing his job. The Packers will be prepared and will give the Giants all they can handle because they are a well-coached and talented team and they want to repeat as champions, period. I don't think it matters which team is coming to town. Never bought into that either. Like the Pack were just sitting around eating cheetos and playing Wii and then someone shows them that people are buying the Giants +8.5 and now they give a crap? Â So, maybe they looked past KC, but this is the playoffs. Edited January 9, 2012 by detlef Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantsfan Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) Not buying any of it. The press likes to make a lot of this stuff because they need something to talk about. A professional team's preparation and intensity on the field should not be affected by smack talk or conjecture about whether the next opponent can beat them. If that stuff becomes a factor, the coach isn't doing his job. The Packers will be prepared and will give the Giants all they can handle because they are a well-coached and talented team and they want to repeat as champions, period. I don't think it matters which team is coming to town. In theory I totally agree with you. In practice I do believe a team like GB will be extra aware this week realizing the team coming in to play them is playing well, and is being given a very good shot to win or play it real close. Â Now do I think it has an affect on the outcome of the game...no...but do I think I would like the Giants more if they were able to sneak up on GB and everyone was loving GB...yes. Â To me no way do the Giants sneak up on GB. In 2007 everyone loved Dallas. Everyone really liked GB. I have seen a lot of people taking the Giants or saying close game and talking about 2007 all over again. I simply disagree if you say GB doesn't see and read that. Â The other NFC game everyone is taking NO. I think that will give SF a little extra motivation as well. Don't think they win, but everyone is all over NO. Has to be some extra motivation. Â I put myself in GB's shoes. Defending champs. Went 15-1. Rested at home, and a lot of people liking the Giants. I know it would give me some extra motivation. But that is just me. Others can disagree. Like I said, doesn't mean I think GB wins because of that, or plays much better because of that. I do think it lowers the chances of GB over looking the Giants or coming out a little flat. Edited January 9, 2012 by giantsfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustOfBeenDrunk Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Vegas is beggin bettors to take the home team getting 3.5, hoping they'll think "Wow, a team that earned a first-round bye is actually getting points at home, and they can lose by a FG and I still win my wager". Don't fall for it. Saints 34, 49ers 23   LOL ,,, I read it completely opposite ,, I read Vegas is begging bettors to take the Saints only laying 3.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt770 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 In theory I totally agree with you. In practice I do believe a team like GB will be extra aware this week realizing the team coming in to play them is playing well, and is being given a very good shot to win or play it real close. Now do I think it has an affect on the outcome of the game...no...but do I think I would like the Giants more if they were able to sneak up on GB and everyone was loving GB...yes.  To me no way do the Giants sneak up on GB. In 2007 everyone loved Dallas. Everyone really liked GB. I have seen a lot of people taking the Giants or saying close game and talking about 2007 all over again. I simply disagree if you say GB doesn't see and read that.  The other NFC game everyone is taking NO. I think that will give SF a little extra motivation as well. Don't think they win, but everyone is all over NO. Has to be some extra motivation.  I put myself in GB's shoes. Defending champs. Went 15-1. Rested at home, and a lot of people liking the Giants. I know it would give me some extra motivation. But that is just me. Others can disagree. Like I said, doesn't mean I think GB wins because of that, or plays much better because of that. I do think it lowers the chances of GB over looking the Giants or coming out a little flat. I'd like to understand why a lot of people are liking the Giants in this game. Keep it competitive, possibly cover, maybe. Win? They will need to play the game of their lives and hope GB slips up here and there. The Giants are playing better, yes, but they have not been tested these past few weeks by a truly elite opponent, and looked pretty flat to start yesterday's contest. Do that at Lambeau and they'll be down 21 before your second beer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantsfan Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) I'd like to understand why a lot of people are liking the Giants in this game. Keep it competitive, possibly cover, maybe. Win? They will need to play the game of their lives and hope GB slips up here and there. The Giants are playing better, yes, but they have not been tested these past few weeks by a truly elite opponent, and looked pretty flat to start yesterday's contest. Do that at Lambeau and they'll be down 21 before your second beer. Dude, I agree. But whatever the reason a lot of people like the Giants to keep it close and have a shot. I have seen it all over. I think people are up on the Giants right now (2007 plays into that I think), and people are a little down on GB with the L at KC, a poor D, and the Giants playing them toe to toe in week 13. Â I do think it is too much Giant love though. Â We shall see. Edited January 9, 2012 by giantsfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustOfBeenDrunk Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 ATL only scoring 2 points & DEN beating the Steelers Nothing will surprise me this weekend  Atlanta ONLY scoring 2pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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