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Posted 03 January 2005 - 11:23 PM

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Early exit by Moss angers teammates
Kevin Seifert,  Star Tribune
January 4, 2005


 

Moments after Randy Moss abandoned his team Sunday at FedExField, a particularly agitated 309-pound man gave chase. Pro Bowl center Matt Birk, enraged that Moss left the field with two seconds remaining in the Vikings' 21-18 loss to Washington, confronted the wide receiver in the locker room and minced few words during a stern lecture.

"I didn't like it," Birk said Monday. "I made sure to get to the locker room quick to talk to him about it. And hopefully, it won't happen again."

At a time when the Vikings are attempting to move past a 3-7 finish and focus on their improbable playoff berth, numerous members of the organization remained bewildered and angered by Moss' petulant act. Birk said his tirade could be repeated only "with a lot of bleeps," and coach Mike Tice spoke to Moss for more than two hours Sunday night and Monday morning.

While Tice indicated he would not fine or otherwise discipline Moss, several locker room leaders -- including Birk and quarterback Daunte Culpepper -- issued rare public rebukes of their superstar teammate.

"Really," Culpepper said, "I don't like what he did. I didn't know about it at the time, because I was on the field. But I know I'm going to address it with him, for sure. I definitely don't like it.

"Randy is Randy," Culpepper added. "He does his thing. He knows what he was doing. He's a grown man. But it's all about winning championships, and is that helping us move toward a championship? That's a question he has to ask himself."

Moss was not available to ask or answer any questions Monday; Tice apparently excused him from a series of team meetings and a 45-minute afternoon practice.

Moss has left the field early two other times in his career, during consecutive losses to Detroit and Jacksonville in December 2001. He was said to be stung by criticism he received last season when trainers sent him to the locker room for back treatment in the second quarter of a game at Detroit; since then, he has requested a trainer accompany him to prevent any further misperceptions about his intent.

There was no confusion Sunday, however, when Moss began walking toward the Vikings locker room, his helmet off and his head down. At the time, the Vikings were lining up for an onside kick. Had they recovered, there might have been time for one final Hail Mary pass to try and win the game.

Most players did not realize what happened until much later. Veteran receiver Marcus Robinson said, "I don't know why people are making a big deal about it" but stopped short of supporting Moss.

"That's Randy," Robinson said. "He chose to do that. That's on him. I wasn't worried too much about it. He's going to do what he's going to do. It's not a reflection on me or anybody else. It's a reflection on him and what he does. ... That's Randy Moss. He can do basically what he wants to do. He did what he did for whatever reason."

Mechanical difficulties delayed the Vikings' charter flight from returning to the Twin Cities until 11:30 p.m. Sunday. Tice said Moss called him at home later that night and then visited him Monday morning at Winter Park.

"I understand his frustration," Tice said. "But we can't let our frustrations make us make poor decisions of poor judgment. Obviously, that was poor judgment, and he understands that. ... With two seconds to go, contrary to belief, the game wasn't over. Maybe something happens and we have a chance to take one more shot."

Absent of formal discipline, Tice said, Moss "can make it up to us. He can go out and make a whole lot of plays this week."

Indeed, Moss has saved some of the best games of his career for Sunday's opponent, the Green Bay Packers. In 13 career games against Green Bay, Moss has caught 66 passes for 1,243 yards and 12 touchdowns.

Other rays of optimism were difficult to find Monday at Winter Park, where Tice said: "It's had to find any joy in Mudville." Owner Red McCombs did his best to inject some cheer, saying there is nothing bittersweet about a playoff game.

"It's totally sweet," McCombs said. "You play all year to get here. Now we're here. I'm so excited about it. Everything we want is out there for us, plain as day. Now all we have to do is get it."

McCombs said the Moss incident "doesn't concern me at all," and said the issue was so insignificant that he did not ask Tice about it during a morning phone conversation. McCombs said any discussion about Moss and the team's 3-7 finish "is not for today; it's for after the season is over."

"Today, we're not worried about yesterday," McCombs said. "I look at the playoffs and think we have as good a shot as any team to [win the Super Bowl]. I like our place. We lost to [the Packers] twice this year in close games, so we know we can beat them. We don't need any extra incentive. I don't see how it could have set up any better way."



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Posted 03 January 2005 - 11:24 PM

I think his walking off the field on his teammates was worse than driving over the traffic cop...jmo

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Posted 03 January 2005 - 11:27 PM

Good.  At least Vikings players aren't justifying it like the fans are.  Bush league and immature.

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Posted 03 January 2005 - 11:46 PM

Randy Moss doesn't understand the meaning of team spirit, sportsmanship or class.

Even with a dictionary under his nose, he still wouldn't get it.

He's one of those people who despite the "I've turned a new leaf" rhetoric, just never seems to grow up.

I doubt he'll ever have the vaguest comprehension of what those terms are, or stand for.

Kind of pathetic and sad, all at the same time. :D

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Posted 04 January 2005 - 12:16 AM

Just what the Vikings need right now---> Moss's behavior causing another distraction!!  :D

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Posted 04 January 2005 - 12:29 AM

Great football player, below average character.

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Posted 04 January 2005 - 01:03 AM

I knew it!  I figured this is what happened when I started that other thread asking Huddlers what the heck Moss was doing when he walked off the field with :02 still on the clock.  I knew it!  The guy has no class!  You don't bail on your teammates like that!

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Posted 04 January 2005 - 06:25 AM

CaptainHook, on 1/3/05 11:27pm, said:

Good.  At least Vikings players aren't justifying it like the fans are.  Bush league and immature.

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Birk and Culpepper did well with their statements.  Robinson was a bit squishy, but at least he didn't condone it.  Helluva receiver, but Moss is a toad of a teammate ...

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Posted 04 January 2005 - 10:44 AM

While I have been a fan of Moss since he played at Marshall and have had the chance to hang out with him on a few occasssions, that action was bush league.  Stay out there and support your team!  I seem to have more problems each and every year in giving him my support as a fan.  I think he still needs to grow up, he can say all he wants about "wanting to be a leader" but that is a quiter not a leader.

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Posted 04 January 2005 - 11:40 AM

Improbable as it may be, I would have loved to see the Vikes recover the onside kick with time for a hail mary, and have the offense stroll out there and see all the Vikings wonder where in the heck Moss is. Camera pans to a bewildered Mike Tice.

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Posted 04 January 2005 - 11:42 AM

Men In Tights, on 1/4/05 04:40pm, said:

Improbable as it may be, I would have loved to see the Vikes recover the onside kick with time for a hail mary, and have the offense stroll out there and see all the Vikings wonder where in the heck Moss is. Camera pans to a bewildered Mike Tice.

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Now THAT would've been a Kodak moment for sure! :D

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Posted 04 January 2005 - 11:45 AM

Yep, weak on Randy's part. He's grown up, but not all the way yet. Tice the big pussy doesn't even have the balls to fine him. :D

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Posted 04 January 2005 - 11:59 AM

Bodes well for Sunday.

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Posted 04 January 2005 - 02:57 PM

If Tice had any kind of balls at all , he would suspend him for this weekend's playoff
game, but you're right he is a ***. Who is really running this team anyway, Moss
or Tice? This team is truly pathetic.

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Posted 04 January 2005 - 03:18 PM

FantasyStud, on 1/4/05 02:57pm, said:

If Tice had any kind of balls at all , he would suspend him for this weekend's playoff game

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Yikes!  I wouldn't go that far.  He's an ass, but definitely a guy I'd want on my team.

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Posted 04 January 2005 - 03:18 PM

I'd take him on my team.

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Posted 04 January 2005 - 03:19 PM

CaptainHook, on 1/4/05 04:18pm, said:

Yikes!  I wouldn't go that far.  He's an ass, but definitely a guy I'd want on my team.

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Fine = good idea.

Suspension = bad idea.

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Posted 04 January 2005 - 03:59 PM

Imagine if it had been backup left guard Anthony Herrerra (or even a Kelly Campbell)....there would almost certainly be a suspension for leaving the field with time on the clock and the team in a desperate, if futile, fight to win a game....

suspension=earned

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Posted 04 January 2005 - 04:01 PM

my obsession, on 1/4/05 04:59pm, said:

Imagine if it had been backup left guard Anthony Herrerra (or even a Kelly Campbell)....there would almost certainly be a suspension for leaving the field with time on the clock and the team in a desperate, if futile, fight to win a game....

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Don't know what you know about Kelly Campbell, but he would be the LAST Viking to give his team the shaft.

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Posted 04 January 2005 - 04:03 PM

I only used Campbell as a less than marquee player on the team....if anything I was intimating he was the Anti-Randy

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Posted 05 January 2005 - 01:35 AM

CaptainHook, on 1/4/05 04:27am, said:

Good.  At least Vikings players aren't justifying it like the fans are.  Bush league and immature.

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What fans are justifying it ? Randy is my favorite player and I think it was a shi**y move.

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Posted 05 January 2005 - 01:40 AM

There have been several.

Not in this thread, but in the first one about what Moss did.

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Posted 05 January 2005 - 11:40 PM

I don't know what Tice said to Moss during their meeting about this, but I'm disappointed in how it was handled by the coach.  He basically said that Moss could redeem himself by playing very, very well against the Packers.  Torch the Pack, and all could be forgiven.

Excuse me.  But this is how professional athletes are treated in most of their young adulthood.  You can get away with things that others can't because you can play football or basketball better than somebody else can.  

Moss is Moss is all that everybody can say about it.  That really indicates that Tice has no control over his players whatsoever.

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Posted 05 January 2005 - 11:42 PM

I've always liked Randy Moss and have defended him thousands of times.  I can now tell you that there are only one or two Viking players that I wouldn't trade away.  Moss isn't one of them.

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Posted 06 January 2005 - 12:04 AM

MikesVikes, on 1/5/05 08:42pm, said:

I've always liked Randy Moss and have defended him thousands of times.  I can now tell you that there are only one or two Viking players that I wouldn't trade away.  Moss isn't one of them.

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Even though he is an esshole....the Pack will take him....we'll give you Fergie for him!




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