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HUDDLERS' 2009 NFL MOCK DRAFT!

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With the 16th pick in the 2009 NFL Draft, San Diego Chargers take Jonathan Stewart.

 

The crowd goes silent.

(tho I bet Taz takes the first RB, being Knowshon)

 

 

I told him Jonathan needs to reenter the draft. I think his response was :wacko:

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Didnt wanna hold things up... We needed a DE, and the ones we discussed were gone. I asked if we could trade picks, and was told "if only". I assumed that meant no we couldnt, and that we were trying to just make the picks as is.

 

DE is our biggest need, so I took a DE. Sorry. :wacko:

 

However, the Bills are notorious for reaching. Whitner at 9, McGahee really early, McCargo, JP... the list goes on and on, so it wouldnt surprise me if they reach yet again.

 

Don't be sorry, I think they go with Maybin or even Pettigrew if they were to "reach" . We know the right thing was to trade down....even if we didn't or couldn't

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Don't be sorry, I think they go with Maybin or even Pettigrew if they were to "reach" . We know the right thing was to trade down....even if we didn't or couldn't

 

I honestly think they will trade, unless someone falls to them (Orakpo, or someone else that is rated really high). I think they go defense either way in round one, but yeah, it wouldnt shock me for them to reach for Pettigrew.

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This is a no-brainer considering the current situation with LT. The Chargers get there RB of the future and allow him to get seasoned behind a HOF before taking over the reigns. I would be ecstatic if Moreno fell to us and AJ pulled the trigger on KnowMo. I have a bad feeling, however, that he will take the over-hyped Beanie the Weanie Wells instead.

 

 

What say ye fellow Bolt backers? And all the insignificant others of course. :wacko:

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What say ye fellow Bolt backers? And all the insignificant others of course. :wacko:

yup, I called it.

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Good lord I'd cream myself if Stewart were drafted by the Chargers last year lmao. Holy cow I'd nut 4 pairs of jeans before I got to the stadium!!

 

I'll take Know-Mo anyday of the week though. Am I concerned over his poor 40 time at the combine? Not at all...he's got football speed. 40 times are over-rated anyway....except for Chris Johnson that is.

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I couldn't believe that Stafford almost slipped to me and I would've scooped him up as quickly as MTsuper did for the Texans. If Sanchez falls to the Jets I truly feel they will take him because are Clemens, Ratliff or Ainge really the answers at QB? Probably not but time will tell. This was a tough pick for me because I contemplated taking Darrius Heyward-Bey who the Jets seem to really like and whose stocks continues to rise. There's no question that the Jets could take a WR here, go with a CB like Jairus Byrd from Oregon, or maybe even look at another USC player and take ILB, Ray Maualuga or James Laurinaitis and then grab a QB like Josh Freeman if he falls to them in round 2.

 

However, I think the Jets grab Mark Sanchez if he's there and then think about getting a WR, OT/OG or CB next.

 

Sanchez has good enough size at almost 6'3" and 225 lbs. He is a natural passer with a strong enough arm to let it rip downfield and nailing WRs in stride. He works well in the pocket, making his reads, showing good footwork and making accurate throws while on the move. He played in a Pro-style system and gets up for big games. There are some concerns about him not having extensive starting experience and possibly needing more seasoning. He also had a great O-line and lots of talent around him at USC which undoubtedly took pressure off of him. But he is a mentally tough kid who knows how to manage the huddle and keep things even-keeled. I think the Jets would be pleased to have him aboard and start fresh with.

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Wolverines Fan is now on the clock to select for the Chicago Bears.

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I couldn't believe that Stafford almost slipped to me and I would've scooped him up as quickly as MTsuper did for the Texans. If Sanchez falls to the Jets I truly feel they will take him because are Clemens, Ratliff or Ainge really the answers at QB? Probably not but time will tell. This was a tough pick for me because I contemplated taking Darrius Heyward-Bey who the Jets seem to really like and whose stocks continues to rise. There's no question that the Jets could take a WR here, go with a CB like Jairus Byrd from Oregon, or maybe even look at another USC player and take ILB, Ray Maualuga or James Laurinaitis and then grab a QB like Josh Freeman if he falls to them in round 2.

 

However, I think the Jets grab Mark Sanchez if he's there and then think about getting a WR, OT/OG or CB next.

 

Sanchez has good enough size at almost 6'3" and 225 lbs. He is a natural passer with a strong enough arm to let it rip downfield and nailing WRs in stride. He works well in the pocket, making his reads, showing good footwork and making accurate throws while on the move. He played in a Pro-style system and gets up for big games. There are some concerns about him not having extensive starting experience and possibly needing more seasoning. He also had a great O-line and lots of talent around him at USC which undoubtedly took pressure off of him. But he is a mentally tough kid who knows how to manage the huddle and keep things even-keeled. I think the Jets would be pleased to have him aboard and start fresh with.

 

Sanchez here in real life would be the steal of the draft. If he stays in school, he competes for the #1 overall selection next year.

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The Jets management would cream in their collective pants if they could grab Sanchez here.

 

The last 5 or so picks have all been ridiculous value (starting with my selection of course!)

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as a Giants fan i like how this draft is progressing so far :wacko:

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Sanchez here in real life would be the steal of the draft. If he stays in school, he competes for the #1 overall selection next year.

 

 

Wasn't Onterrio Smith the steal of the draft too? :wacko:

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Wasn't Onterrio Smith the steal of the draft too? :wacko:

 

As an Oregon Duck fan, I would have told you that would happen if I was a member then lol. But anybody who shaves S.O.D into there head is a moran anyway.

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So with pick #15 in the real NFL Draft, there isn't a snowball's chance in hell Stafford will really be there. I can see how a Lions fan would be afraid to pick a QB #1 overall (though I think they'll take Stafford, but if they don't for some reason, they WILL take an OL). But how do teams like St. Louis, Seattle, Jacksonville, San Fran pass on this kid? All of them have significant QB needs (Jacksonville maybe not as much as the others, but is Garrard really a long-term answer?). Why is everyone on these boards so down on Stafford? Because of his combine? Come on now, there is a reason that he is a top 3 pick on basically every mock draft out there.

 

But if somehow this were to happen, the Texans would snatch the kid up in a heartbeat. Not because they don't think Schaub is the answer... But Schaub has proven that he isn't that durable, and he also is a due a fat bonus in 2010. If the kid progresses well as a rookie learning the playbook, maybe they feel confident they could deal Schaub and roll with Stafford. But the Texan offense would be a wonderful playground for Stafford to roll with... Lots of weapons.

 

More realistically, I see the Texans maybe taking a LB with this pick depending on who is out there. They are set at DE now. There is a chance they draft a guy like Moreno to split carries with Slaton (they definitely will find a bruiser in this draft at some point).

I agree that there are a bunch of teams in the top 15 picks that could really use a "franchise" QB, but from the 49ers' perspective, the QB position is not where their biggest troubles lie. If they were to draft Stafford or Sanchez, it would not in any way address their two biggest problems... poor play by the offensive line (led league in sacks given up) and the lack of a significant pass rush. The Niners bring in Stafford and one of two things happens... either he holds a clipboard for a year or two, or he gets thrown into the mix immediately and gets sacked 3-4 times per game, knocked down another 6-8 times, and the team finishes worse than last year overall. I think there are enough pieces in place that SF would rather draft someone who can make a positive impact on this upcoming season. There are too many unknowns regarding Shaun Hill to just assume that the QB position needs to be addressed immediately, in terms of a top draft pick. Let Hill play an entire season, running the same game-manager type of offense that he did last year (when he went 7-3 as a starter), and Singletary continues to build the defense that he wants to anchor this team around.

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I agree that there are a bunch of teams in the top 15 picks that could really use a "franchise" QB, but from the 49ers' perspective, the QB position is not where their biggest troubles lie. If they were to draft Stafford or Sanchez, it would not in any way address their two biggest problems... poor play by the offensive line (led league in sacks given up) and the lack of a significant pass rush. The Niners bring in Stafford and one of two things happens... either he holds a clipboard for a year or two, or he gets thrown into the mix immediately and gets sacked 3-4 times per game, knocked down another 6-8 times, and the team finishes worse than last year overall. I think there are enough pieces in place that SF would rather draft someone who can make a positive impact on this upcoming season. There are too many unknowns regarding Shaun Hill to just assume that the QB position needs to be addressed immediately, in terms of a top draft pick. Let Hill play an entire season, running the same game-manager type of offense that he did last year (when he went 7-3 as a starter), and Singletary continues to build the defense that he wants to anchor this team around.

 

If Stafford was somehow there at 10, the 49ers brass will take him, regardless of immediate team need. 2009 is probably a rebuilding year for SF anyway, no? Why not get your QB of the future now and fill out some of your needs later in the draft. You 'll probably have another top ten pick in the 2010 NFL draft anyway and could get an immediate impact defensive player with that pick.

 

I will also say this... If Stafford starts slipping past 5,6,7, etc., there definitely would be a team trading up to snatch him.

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Wolverines Fan is currently contemplating his selection. We are moving along very nicely again and faster than I anticipated that we would.

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Irish and everyone, I'll have a writeup for my pick done sometime Friday. I've had a heck of a long day.

 

If Stafford or Sanchez had fallen down here, I would have been really conflicted over my pick.

Edited by Wolverines Fan

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I am 3 spots away from picking. I will be away from the computer from 3:30-6:30 CST tonight.

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Andre Smith lookin' good at his pro day. :D

 

Andre Smith

 

 

I've heard comments ranging from good to mediocre. 19 reps is OK. His 40 speed was better than average. His cones drills looked good. He did look pretty flabby with his man breasts going wild(running with no shirt).

 

Where is Frank Costanza when you need him. :wacko:

 

He admitted in an iterview that he needs to keep working out. He seems like a nice kid but I'm not sure he's a hard worker.

Edited by Randall

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If Policy doesn't take an OL (Michael Oher) with Detroit's next pick (#20), something is wrong here...

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ANY PATRIOTS FANS THAT WANT TO HELP ME MAKE MY PICK, PM ME WITH WHO YOU THINK THE PATS NEED, AND WHAT POSITIONS THEY NEED FOR THE 2ND ROUND.

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ANY PATRIOTS FANS THAT WANT TO HELP ME MAKE MY PICK, PM ME WITH WHO YOU THINK THE PATS NEED, AND WHAT POSITIONS THEY NEED FOR THE 2ND ROUND.

 

I thought you were the PatsFan? :wacko:

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Tampa Bay takes Robert Ayers DE from Tennessee. I am targeting for them(with thanks to one Bucs fan that chimed in) the defensive line. With Raji and Jerry gone I believe DE is the wqay to go here.

 

Tennessee has been a good defensive line training ground with Reggie White, Chuck Smith, John Henderson, Albert Haynesworth, Shaun Ellis coming from there. Mike Mayock rates him his #12 player and #1 defensive end. We don't know what kind of player Jim Bates wants but I am going talent here.

 

From Scout.com

 

Ayers is an ascending defender who has great size and the ability to be a quarterback terror. He’s extremely quick off the line and uses his hands very well. He has a powerful lower body and great leg drive. He attacks mostly on the outside and has the ability to bring his momentum inside. He has an explosive nature, but has to develop better technique to compensate for his lack of straight-line speed. - Chris Steuber, Scout.com

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I thought you were the PatsFan? :wacko:

 

He is, he's just looking for some feedback from fellow fans or for them to make the pick altogether. :D

 

Welcome back Seahawks21. Sorry about moving onward from your pick but the natives were getting restless.

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