Guest Sores Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 MORA GETTING SICK OF VICK? Word around the league is that new Falcons coach Jim Mora quickly is tiring of quarterback Michael Vick's "I'm hurt/I'm not hurt" routine. In fact, it's getting to the point that some league insiders are openly wondering whether the Falcons will turn the team over in due time to rookie Matt Schaub, one of the most highly regarded college quarterbacks entering the 2003 NCAA season. Injuries marred a potential Heisman run and dropped him into the third round of the draft. As one scout told us, "Vick is a talent but has a low pain threshold. I don't think the Falcons will move him, but if the aches continue and Schaub shows he can get it done, down the line you never know." Vick was a late scratch from the Falcons' most recent preseason game due to tightness in his right hamstring. He has thrown a total of nine passes in his first preseason working with the West Coast offense. Just for fun, we made a short list of potential destinations for Vick, if the Falcons decide within the next year or so to make a move. As of now, we could envision the Dolphins, the Browns, the Cowboys, the Lions, the Packers, the Saints, and the Cardinals as having an interest in acquiring Vick's services. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 0ne Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 Not a chance in hell. But Vick will get hurt soon enough that it'll happen, but they will not willingly sit Vick for Schaub. Are you kidding me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 You've got to be kidding. At least I hope you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubfoothead Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 He's better than Vick but hopefully like I said earlier today, the Falcons will have to get rid of Schaub because he's making Vick uncomfortable. I've got a direct line to the Tuna and Dallas is already prepared to offer Henson, a 3rd round pick and Danny White's left testicle for Schaub. That would seriously screw up my plans. :hoppingmad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneWall Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 (edited) Schaub is the better QB, but Vick is the better rusher. Edited August 31, 2004 by StoneWall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sores Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 Schaub is the better QB, but Vick is the better rusher. 378609[/snapback] Agreed....so what do you do? Turn Vick into some sort of hybrid slash type? Can't do that, he is too fragile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubfoothead Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 Agreed....so what do you do? Turn Vick into some sort of hybrid slash type? Can't do that, he is too fragile. 378616[/snapback] You send Schaub to Dallas and hope for the best with Henson and an extra 3rd rounder. I wish. As someone said yesterday, Atlanta simply has too much invested in Vick. Keep Schuab and you hope to increase his trade value when, not if, Vick gets hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 This thread brings back memories of the Brees vs Vick debates... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubfoothead Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 This thread brings back memories of the Brees vs Vick debates... 378646[/snapback] honestly, have you seen Schaub play, I know it is only pre-season but the guy's got something other than a big bag of nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneWall Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 honestly, have you seen Schaub play, I know it is only pre-season but the guy's got something other than a big bag of nothing. 378653[/snapback] He's good, just because he's the next QB after Brees being debated against Vick, doesn't make him Brees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 honestly, have you seen Schaub play, I know it is only pre-season but the guy's got something other than a big bag of nothing. 378653[/snapback] yes, but does he have a Gorbachevesque winestain mark on his face? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubfoothead Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 (edited) yes, but why does he have a Gorbachevesque winestain mark on his face? 378664[/snapback] I though he was dead. Edited August 31, 2004 by Clubfoothead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 I though he was dead. 378675[/snapback] Brees or Gorby? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sores Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 (edited) I though he was dead. 378675[/snapback] Gorby is almost dead...but Spain is referring to Brees in a sophomoric attempt at humor in order to try and deflect from the Brees vs. Schaub comparison. Edited August 31, 2004 by Sores Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sushi Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 Gorby is dead...but Spain is referring to Brees in a sophomoric attempt at humor in order to try and deflect from the Brees vs. Schaub comparison. 378681[/snapback] Since when is Gorby dead? He was just at Reagan's funeral. He looked pretty healthy there, for a dead guy. Now Thatcher on the other hand... That broad did look dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sores Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 Since when is Gorby dead? He was just at Reagan's funeral. He looked pretty healthy there, for a dead guy. Now Thatcher on the other hand... That broad did look dead. 378697[/snapback] thanks...fixed it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 0ne Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 Why's everyone got such a hard on for Schaub? A few semi-decent passes in pre-season games? Unless I'm missing something. Enlighten me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatman Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 You really think Arthur Blank would turn the reigns over to Schaub when Vick is the only (and I mean only) marketable thing about the Falcons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 Not a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kansas State 2000 Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 Or maybe it is just that Vick is in no hurry to get out there and play in the preseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sores Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 Or maybe it is just that Vick is in no hurry to get out there and play in the preseason. 378731[/snapback] If thats the case....I am glad I am not a Falcon fan....waiting for Vick to learn a new offense during the regular season. He isn't playing (much)...he isn't practicing (much).....when is he supposed to get acclimated to the new system? I am not saying Schaub WILL replace him in the lineup any time soon (not until Vick gets hurt)....but the regular season is not the time to be learning a new offense and getting in sync at game speed with a cache of new receivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubfoothead Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 Why's everyone got such a hard on for Schaub? A few semi-decent passes in pre-season games? Unless I'm missing something. Enlighten me. 378708[/snapback] Actually, I though Schaub was dead. Here are his pre-season stats against 1st string defenses: @ Balt 12 for 24 108 yards passing and 3 Ints v. Min 16 for 19 205 yards passing and 3 TDs 0 Ints v. Cin 14 for 20 214 yards passing and 3 TDs 0 Ints 42 for 63 with 527 yards passing 6 Tds and 3 Ints total. Again, I know it is pre-season and that defenses are in flux but those are gawdy #s for a rookie, nevertheless. Add to that, what I saw with my own two eyes. If you have the NFL network see if they show any of the 3 games and see for yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneWall Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 Alot of his big passes were scrambling to the left or right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sores Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 (edited) Actually, I though Schaub was dead. Here are his pre-season stats against 1st string defenses: @ Balt 12 for 24 108 yards passing and 3 Ints v. Min 16 for 19 205 yards passing and 3 TDs 0 Ints v. Cin 14 for 20 214 yards passing and 3 TDs 0 Ints 42 for 63 with 527 yards passing 6 Tds and 3 Ints total. Again, I know it is pre-season and that defenses are in flux but those are gawdy #s for a rookie, nevertheless. Add to that, what I saw with my own two eyes. If you have the NFL network see if they show any of the 3 games and see for yourself. 378743[/snapback] The Packers are kicking themselves for trading up to get a lousy punter and passing on Schaub. He and Losman were the two QB's they liked in the draft and while Losman was picked ahead of them in the first, they could have grabbed Schaub and a potential successor to Favre. Instead they have a dreadful punting situation on their hands. Edited August 31, 2004 by Sores Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 0ne Posted August 31, 2004 Share Posted August 31, 2004 Actually, I though Schaub was dead. Here are his pre-season stats against 1st string defenses: @ Balt 12 for 24 108 yards passing and 3 Ints v. Min 16 for 19 205 yards passing and 3 TDs 0 Ints v. Cin 14 for 20 214 yards passing and 3 TDs 0 Ints 42 for 63 with 527 yards passing 6 Tds and 3 Ints total. Again, I know it is pre-season and that defenses are in flux but those are gawdy #s for a rookie, nevertheless. Add to that, what I saw with my own two eyes. If you have the NFL network see if they show any of the 3 games and see for yourself. 378743[/snapback] But that's it Club? 3 pre-season games and everyone is foaming at the mouth when talking about him. I just don't get it. They're decent numbers (not Vinnie Testaverde-like, but decent ), but that's it, some OK numbers in a few pre-season games. Like I said, maybe it's me or maybe I'm skeptical or maybe I'm just missing something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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