polksalet Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Help me make some sense of this. It is common knowledge (among leftists) that the earth is heating and he says this... "Clinton called for "a serious global effort to develop a clean energy future" to avoid the onset of another ice age. " Here is the rest of the article, enjoy Clinton: Climate change is the world's biggest worry By DAN PERRY Associated Press Writer January 28, 2006, 2:00 PM EST DAVOS, Switzerland -- Former U.S. President Bill Clinton told corporate chieftains and political bigwigs Saturday that climate change was the world's biggest problem _ followed by global inequality and the "apparently irreconcilable" religious and cultural differences behind terrorism. Clinton's comments provided something a freewheeling and philosophical finale _ ahead of Sunday's formal wrap-up _ to several days of high-powered discourse on the state of the world, and the mostly admiring audience seemed to hang on his every word. "First, I worry about climate change," Clinton said in an onstage conversation with the founder of the World Economic Forum. "It's the only thing that I believe has the power to fundamentally end the march of civilization as we know it, and make a lot of the other efforts that we're making irrelevant and impossible." Clinton called for "a serious global effort to develop a clean energy future" to avoid the onset of another ice age. He also said the current global system "works to aggravate rather than ameliorate inequality" between and within nations _ including in the United States, where he lamented the "growing concentration of wealth at the top," alongside stagnation for the middle classes and rising poverty. "I don't think we've found the way to promote economic and political integration in a manner that benefits the vast majority of the people in all societies and makes them feel that they are benefited by it," he said. "Voters usually see ... issues from the prism of their own experience." Clinton won frequent enthusiastic applause _ not a common situation at the annual gathering in the Swiss Alps _ for articulating a global vision more conciliatory and inclusive than the one many of the assembled tend to associate with U.S. politics. People around the world "basically want to know that we're on their side, that we wish them well, that we want the best for them, that we're pulling for them," he said. Clinton called on current world leaders to seek ways of easing the "apparently irreconcilable religious and cultural differences in the world, that are manifest most stunningly in headlines about terrorist actions but really go far beyond that." "You really can't have a global economy or a global society or a global approach to health and other things unless there is some sense of global community." Former Australian foreign minister Gareth Evans was listening. "He's a great performer and then he's got the greatest convening power of anyone now in the world, I think, and the greatest capacity to articulate things that matter," said Evans, who now heads the International Crisis Group, a think tank. Clinton also dispensed advice on the issues of the day. In Iraq, he said, the United States should not "give this thing up and say it can't work," but should consider "drawing down some of our troops and reconfiguring their components, trying to increase the special forces (and) putting them in places where they're not quite as vulnerable." Iran, he argued, must not be allowed to acquire nuclear weapons, and neither economic sanctions nor "any other option" should be ruled out as ways of preventing this. But he warned there would be "an enormous political price to pay if the global community ... looked like they went to force before everything else has been exhausted." Clinton also suggested the West should be more open to eventual dialogue with Hamas, the radical Palestinian group whose election victory stunned the world this week and clouded the prospects of any resolution to the conflict with Israel. "One of the politically correct things in American politics ... is we just don't talk to some people that we don't like, particularly if they ever killed anybody in a way that we hate," he said. "I do think that if you've got enough self-confidence in who you are and what you believe in, you ought not to be scared to talk to anybody." "You've got to find a way to at least open doors ... and I don't see how we can do it without more contact," he said. Hamas might "acquire a greater sense of responsibility, and as they do we have to be willing to act on that." Klaus Schwab, the forum's founder and organizer, asked Clinton to advise the next U.S. president, noting that this person might either be married to Clinton or listening in the audience _ an apparent reference to Sen. John McCain, seated in the first row along with Microsoft's Bill Gates and other invitees. "In this world full of culturally charged issues I think we should make it clear that Senator McCain and I are not married," Clinton joked as the audience burst into laughter. The comment earned Clinton a slap on the back from the Arizona Republican, who fought a crowd to get to the former president after the event. "Interesting talk," said the beaming possible 2008 presidential contender. "You got us both in trouble!" Copyright 2006 Newsday Inc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Which pacifist libera commie pinko former Dem President is nuttier: Clinton or Carter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylive5 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Isn't it interesting that he knows how to cure all the worlds ills now that he is no longer in office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Isn't it interesting that he knows how to cure all the worlds ills now that he is no longer in office. 1295313[/snapback] Typical Democrat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Which pacifist libera commie pinko former Dem President is nuttier: Clinton or Carter? 1295306[/snapback] Yeah, global warming is a liberal invention. Tell that to all those in the path of stronger and stronger hurricanes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Row Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Clinton & Kerry both hiding out in the nuetral nation of pacifists. And both making ludicrous headlines. Coincidence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Clinton & Kerry both hiding out in the nuetral nation of pacifists. And both making ludicrous headlines. Coincidence? 1295344[/snapback] Tyical. Ludicrous? Ignore the content of what is said and bash the person. No wonder Hamas and Iran are such dangers. There are morons in the WH. Bush had 50 warnings on 911. Despite his problems Clinton would have done a better job during sex than these guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Row Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 listen Mr. skins jr., The man is a loser. You cannot deny alot of our problems can be directly linked to his tenure in the WH. Or maybe in your closed minded view of the world you can. Clinton called for "a serious global effort to develop a clean energy future" to avoid the onset of another ice age. Lets get the "world"(read UN) to fix everything. Sounds familiar eh. Is the problem global warming or the next ice age? Man's ability to challenge the forces of nature is negligable at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 hmmm since it was 45 and rainning here in jan when its supposed to be 10 and snowing ... there may be a problem but lets not worry about it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_gop_liars Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 You cannot deny alot of our problems can be directly linked to his tenure in the WH. Or maybe in your closed minded view of the world you can. 1295396[/snapback] Quite possibly the dumbest thing I have ever read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 hate to dismiss a theory, but..... "The increased activity since 1995 is due to natural fluctuations (and) cycles of hurricane activity driven by the Atlantic Ocean itself along with the atmosphere above it and not enhanced substantially by global warming," he testified. http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/science/09/23/hurricane.cycle/ Scientific experts, however, agree that global warming is not a factor in the current spate of hurricanes. http://www.globalwarming.org/article.php?uid=800 Hurricanes like Katrina are not new, nor are they caused by global warming, says Investor's Business Daily (IBD). http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1487958/posts and the list goes on and on.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Row Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Coming from you that really hurts.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 listen Mr. skins jr., The man is a loser. You cannot deny alot of our problems can be directly linked to his tenure in the WH. Or maybe in your closed minded view of the world you can. Lets get the "world"(read UN) to fix everything. Sounds familiar eh. Is the problem global warming or the next ice age? Man's ability to challenge the forces of nature is negligable at best. 1295396[/snapback] The Randall of the right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicCEO Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Is the problem global warming or the next ice age? 1295396[/snapback] Wow. This is dumb. Way to advertise your complete lack of knowledge. Please, talk more. Drop more knowledge. You can only help the opposing viewpoint. Try a google search on "Global Warming and Ice Age", and you might find one or two sites linking them. Maybe you'll be lucky and find one with pictures! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Try a google search on "Global Warming and Ice Age", and you might find one or two sites linking them. Maybe you'll be lucky and find one with pictures! 1295627[/snapback] Heck, watch Discovery Channel instead of Spike TV. That way you don't even have to read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 hate to dismiss a theory, but..... Scientific experts, however, agree that global warming is not a factor in the current spate of hurricanes. http://www.globalwarming.org/article.php?uid=800 1295422[/snapback] Your article comes from a group that was formed to purposely discredit the possibility of global warming. Science is built on gathering data an offering educated view points, even if they differ with the mainstream view. For the most part, these articles are simply contradictory to the opinion held by the vast majority of scientists. Like it or hate it........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Your article comes from a group that was formed to purposely discredit the possibility of global warming. Science is built on gathering data an offering educated view points, even if they differ with the mainstream view. For the most part, these articles are simply contradictory to the opinion held by the vast majority of scientists. Like it or hate it........ 1295661[/snapback] and your quote here is based on fact? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 and your quote here is based on fact? 1295667[/snapback] The scientific opinion on global warming, as expressed by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) is that the average global temperature has risen 0.6 ± 0.2°C since the late 19th century, and that "most of the warming observed over the last 50 years is attributable to human activities". This view is held by the vast majority of climate scientists and those doing research in closely related fields; however, there are also a small number of scientists who actively disagree with this statement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 The scientific opinion on global warming, as expressed by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) is that the average global temperature has risen 0.6 ± 0.2°C since the late 19th century, and that "most of the warming observed over the last 50 years is attributable to human activities". This view is held by the vast majority of climate scientists and those doing research in closely related fields; however, there are also a small number of scientists who actively disagree with this statement 1295691[/snapback] i never said the earth isnt warming...i disagree with a link between warming and the strength of hurricanes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 i never said the earth isnt warming...i disagree with a link between warming and the strength of hurricanes 1295700[/snapback] Disagree all you want but many scientists don't. The study of it is important and shouldn't be political. We need to find out. When several cat 5 canes hit year after year you better find out the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H8tank Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Why is Mars warming? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Disagree all you want but many scientists don't. The study of it is important and shouldn't be political. We need to find out. When several cat 5 canes hit year after year you better find out the truth. 1295701[/snapback] Chris Landsea, a colleague at NOAA, agrees, adding that if you look at raw hurricane data . . . there is no global warming signal, instead, we see a strong cycling of activity. At the 27th annual National Hurricane Conference, William Gray, an atmospheric scientist at the University of Colorado, explained that nature, not man, is responsible for hurricane cycles, and that periodically changing ocean-circulation patterns influence these cycles. A recent paper, "Hurricanes and Global Warming," written by six noted tropical cyclone experts stated that there was no connection between greenhouse gas emissions and hurricane activity. Additionally, the National Hurricane Center Web site says that the peak for major hurricanes was between 1930 and 1950, when storms averaged nine per year; today, the average is three. Nor is hurricane strength intensifying; since the 1940s, the mean maximum intensity has actually decreased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 i never said the earth isnt warming...i disagree with a link between warming and the strength of hurricanes 1295700[/snapback] My bad, I think there is still much debate about that in the scientific community. I would however warn against convincing yourself otherwise by believing a few articles from biased sources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 My bad, I think there is still much debate about that in the scientific community. I would however warn against convincing yourself otherwise by believing a few articles from biased sources. 1295721[/snapback] i agree with that....anyone with any view can get a few 'experts' together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Why is Mars warming? 1295704[/snapback] Why is the sky blue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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