Avernus Posted April 18, 2006 Author Share Posted April 18, 2006 Dude. You're wrong on this one. What you are doing is not called being a realist. 1425503[/snapback] I dunno...Bush basically stole the last 2 elections on some mafia sh!t... even in the 1st election they said Gore took florida and his pops was like....."nah....no he didn't"..... no reason, he's just like....nope... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cherni Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 I dunno...Bush basically stole the last 2 elections on some mafia sh!t... even in the 1st election they said Gore took florida and his pops was like....."nah....no he didn't"..... no reason, he's just like....nope... 1425543[/snapback] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 lol 'you miscounted those votes' "no we didnt" 'yes you did!' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 in a democracy, we have the freedom to choose as well...he chooses not to vote. and we all know that the majority of people dont have his view so our democracy is not in trouble. as for voting, i think the electoral process is outdated. we need to do something to either include the popular vote or use it entirely. 1425533[/snapback] I guess most of you have a much more positive view of our government. Not me, I'm a cynical bastage. If I had any faith that we have an honest government that is willing to what's best for the people, I would probably start voting. That is not the case however. Money and power is the number one priority in this country and that attitude started and remains at the top. That won't change anytime soon. In fact, my guess is that it will take a catastrophe to change that mentality. A lot of you sure do live in a world of ideals rather than truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 (edited) I guess most of you have a much more positive view of our government. Not me, I'm a cynical bastage. If I had any faith that we have an honest government that is willing to what's best for the people, I would probably start voting. That is not the case however. Money and power is the number one priority in this country and that attitude started and remains at the top. That won't change anytime soon. In fact, my guess is that it will take a catastrophe to change that mentality. A lot of you sure do live in a world of ideals rather than truth. 1425550[/snapback] every politician is a crook and the higher you get in rank, the bigger the crook you are imho Edited April 18, 2006 by dmarc117 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duchess Jack Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 Not me, I'm a cynical bastage. 1425550[/snapback] This is a little more accurate than 'realist' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted April 18, 2006 Author Share Posted April 18, 2006 (edited) every politician is a crook and the higher you get in rank, the bigger the crook you are imho 1425557[/snapback] exactly how I feel... this country isn't even a country...it (edit) is and was started on big business...this is America the clumsy giant... fee fi fo fum Edited April 18, 2006 by Avernus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 as for voting, i think the electoral process is outdated. we need to do something to either include the popular vote or use it entirely. 1425533[/snapback] Why is the electoral college outdated? It seems to me that it still serves the same purpose today as it always has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 This is a little more accurate than 'realist' 1425564[/snapback] And in this context, being cynical is being a realist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 Hey Brent, How much you wanna bet there was more than a few hundrerd people that shared your attitude, and political leanings, in Florida during the 2000 election? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 Hey Brent, How much you wanna bet there was more than a few hundrerd people that shared your attitude, and political leanings, in Florida during the 2000 election? 1425572[/snapback] Is your point that if they had voted rather than not, we wouldn't have Bush in office right now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted April 18, 2006 Author Share Posted April 18, 2006 Hey Brent, How much you wanna bet there was more than a few hundrerd people that shared your attitude, and political leanings, in Florida during the 2000 election? 1425572[/snapback] about as many people that voted an likely already died or were handed a green card to vote for Bush... me speak aa no english vote a umm...presidente Booosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrunt Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 How different would things really be if Bush didn't get reelected? My guess, not much, except that we would have another President in the office to complain about. It's not like everything that happens is Bush's fault, just that most major issues get blamed on him if it doesn't go correctly as planned. Either way, whoever is in office, it seems like one half of the country is not going to approve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 Why is the electoral college outdated? It seems to me that it still serves the same purpose today as it always has. 1425566[/snapback] i just think with all the tech we have, we should be able to count every single vote.... depending on where you live and how you vote, sometimes your vote really doesnt matter if your views are against the majority in that area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duchess Jack Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 And in this context, being cynical is being a realist. 1425568[/snapback] As a cynic, that is the reality you chose to believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 (edited) As a cynic, that is the reality you chose to believe 1425607[/snapback] Maybe. Some of us are born under a cloud of gloom. Edited April 18, 2006 by Brentastic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted April 18, 2006 Author Share Posted April 18, 2006 How different would things really be if Bush didn't get reelected? My guess, not much, except that we would have another President in the office to complain about. It's not like everything that happens is Bush's fault, just that most major issues get blamed on him if it doesn't go correctly as planned. Either way, whoever is in office, it seems like one half of the country is not going to approve. 1425591[/snapback] you'll never know because it never happened... and lol..I learned my lesson from dmarc...so I won't assume you are a republican.... but this is a tactic most republicans use....the would/could routine... or..."if we weren't fighting them over there, we'd be fighting them here"... I don't see a dollar store (slash) dunkin donuts revolt with ak57's going on.... all I get is... how many thlee fore chocalate flosted?..you need coffee cream sugal milk orlange juices?... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 you'll never know because it never happened... and lol..I learned my lesson from dmarc...so I won't assume you are a republican.... but this is a tactic most republicans use....the would/could routine... or..."if we weren't fighting them over there, we'd be fighting them here"... I don't see a dollar store (slash) dunkin donuts revolt with ak57's going on.... all I get is... how many thlee fore chocalate flosted?..you need coffee cream sugal milk orlange juices?... 1425716[/snapback] all i know is those sob's dont pay any income tax!!!! now thats bunk! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted April 18, 2006 Author Share Posted April 18, 2006 all i know is those sob's dont pay any income tax!!!! now thats bunk! 1425721[/snapback] they come over here and live easy...and then only hire their own people... and we are worrying about a bunch of mexicans who are willing to clean stores for below minimum wage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGrunt Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 you'll never know because it never happened... We'll never know because it never happened... I see where you are coming from, but trying to argue that a democrate in the office would do any better is just as much of an assumption. I'm not saying Bush has done everything right, mainly because he hasn't. Obviously. It's easy to point blame on someone, but the real task is finding a realistic and probable solution. One of which seems to be very difficult to come by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 "WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush sharply defended Donald Rumsfeld on Tuesday, saying the embattled Pentagon chief is doing a "fine job" despite calls for his resignation from six retired military generals. Bush already had interrupted his Easter vacation at Camp David, Maryland, on Friday to release a public statement of support for the defense secretary." Oh no. He interrupted Easter? He didn't cut short any vacation time in august so Rummy is much more important than Katrina survivors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 i just think with all the tech we have, we should be able to count every single vote....depending on where you live and how you vote, sometimes your vote really doesnt matter if your views are against the majority in that area. 1425593[/snapback] Well, sure but to some extent we've always been able to count every single vote. The electoral college still performs the same service whether or not technology allows us to accurately count every vote. Technology won't ever make the EC outdated IMO, only a change in political philosophy would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted April 18, 2006 Author Share Posted April 18, 2006 We'll never know because it never happened...I see where you are coming from, but trying to argue that a democrate in the office would do any better is just as much of an assumption. I'm not saying Bush has done everything right, mainly because he hasn't. Obviously. It's easy to point blame on someone, but the real task is finding a realistic and probable solution. One of which seems to be very difficult to come by. 1425737[/snapback] I hate both parties... it's like choosing between poopie and doodoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted April 18, 2006 Author Share Posted April 18, 2006 the mascot for the democrats has now been changed to a.... ::drumroll:: catfish!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 I hate both parties... it's like choosing between poopie and doodoo 1425764[/snapback] hate one, not happy with one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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