loaf Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 And yet people are still voting for him...who left the gate open? not sure what you mean here...care to elaborate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 not sure what you mean here...care to elaborate? Simply trying to say that people that are voting for Brees as a "comeback" player just don't get it. He played a full season in 06', had off season surgery and played again. He'd get my vote if the award went to a player who is a "New Team MVP"....not comeback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 This has to be Pennington. Two shoulder surgeries, and he comes back to lead what what supposed to be the worst team in the NFL to a playoff birth? Granted, his numbers don't look great, but the bottom line is about winning, and he is a guy who is doing something that's never been done before.... not only coming back from two shoulder surgeries, but to take a supposedly horrid team into the playoffs? Ther is no debate here at all.... it's Pennington. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 Simply trying to say that people that are voting for Brees as a "comeback" player just don't get it. He played a full season in 06', had off season surgery and played again. He'd get my vote if the award went to a player who is a "New Team MVP"....not comeback. which is why I voted Lewis, who in pre season was written off on these boards... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godtomsatan Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 which is why I voted Lewis, who in pre season was written off on these boards... Lewis 2005: 15 games, 301 touches, 1097 yards, 4 TD Lewis 2006: 15 games, 311 touches, 1166 yards, 9 TD Not much of a comeback really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 The only reason Pennington will get real votes in this is the East Coast bias...he doesn't deserve the award when Steve McNair has clearly been more important to his team at the QB position. Don't see Pennington either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 Brees is not a viable canidate for this award. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godtomsatan Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 The only reason Pennington will get real votes in this is the East Coast bias...he doesn't deserve the award when Steve McNair has clearly been more important to his team at the QB position. Don't see Pennington either. You are a complete doo$h. McNair 2005: 14 games, 292-476 (61.3%), 3161, 16 TD, 11 INT McNair 2006: 15 games, 272-433 (62.8%), 2834, 16 TD, 11 INT He went to a better team, he hasn't "comeback" from anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 You're right about the he hasn't comeback from anything part...mistook his previous year. A bit harsh with the flames sparky. I appreciate you correcting me. You complete me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicCEO Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 I appreciate you correcting me. You complete me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godtomsatan Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 I appreciate you correcting me. You complete me. My bad for oversniffling. I love you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CD6405 Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 Fred Taylor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 Exactly. I can't give a comeback to someone that really was never gone. Brees had a great year last year. Deuce is a good choice. I also like Walker for this spot. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vet Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Pennington takes AP Comeback Player honorsBy Associated Press Thursday, January 4, 2007 - Updated: 05:42 AM EST NEW YORK - One rotator cuff injury often is enough to ruin a premier athlete’s career. Chad Pennington [stats] overcame two in two years to win The Associated Press NFL Comeback Player of the Year award. The New York Jets [team stats] had become too accustomed to seeing Pennington leave the field with a damaged right shoulder. After the 2004 season and again midway through 2005, he underwent surgery to repair his right rotator cuff. There’s was so much doubt about Pennington returning to form that the Jets had four quarterbacks in training camp last summer, including a second-round draft pick. So all the seven-year veteran did was lead the Jets to a surprising 10-6 record and a wild-card berth one season after they went 4-12 _ most of it with him sidelined _ and changed coaches. Pennington’s precise execution of a short passing game made Laveranues Coles [stats] and Jerricho Cotchery into 1,000-yard receivers and offset a mediocre running game. Not surprisingly, Pennington didn’t see winning the award, announced Thursday, as an individual honor. "The organization has been great in providing me with all kinds of special resources to get back healthy and play at a high level," he said. "My teammates have been behind me since Day 1. For us to be able to put it together out on the field would mean a lot ... it’s been such a team effort." Pennington’s efforts earned him 27 votes in balloting by a nationwide panel of 50 sports writers and broadcasters who cover the NFL. He finished far ahead of two other quarterbacks, Drew Brees of New Orleans (8 1/2) and Carson Palmer of Cincinnati (5 1/2). "He never reinvented himself," Coles said of Pennington, who passed for a career-best 3,352 yards and finished second in the AFC with a 95.7 passer rating. "You all (in the media) were the ones who left him for dead. I’m pretty sure he didn’t leave himself for dead or he wouldn’t be in this situation. And I definitely didn’t. He never went anywhere." Well, actually Pennington went under the knife twice, and because he’s never had a particularly strong arm, his return to prominence was highly questioned. But through rehab and meetings, he clearly had mastered the offense of new coach Eric Mangini and coordinator Brian Schottenheimer by early August. And there never was any doubt he would beat out the other three QBs in camp once Pennington began throwing as accurately as ever. When Pennington was hit hard or sacked, he bounced up and went right back to work. Most notably against Houston, he took a huge hit and stayed down because he had the breath knocked out of him. Well aware of the hushed crowd, Pennington pumped his fist as he walked off the field, assuring the fans he and his right arm were fine. "Chad is a tough guy," veteran guard Pete Kendall said. "I think anybody who stands back there is a tough guy, it’s just that some guys unfortunately have been injured more than others. But that doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with toughness. "When you talk about toughness, you have to talk about mental toughness as much as, or moreso than physical toughness. Chad is way up there; he’s a mentally tough guy. To be quarterback in this market, with the ups and downs that comes along with playing quarterback, and to go through what he has gone through, then come back and still play well, you have to be a tough guy to do that." Cleveland tight end Kellen Winslow received five votes, followed by two Eagles: QB Jeff Garcia with two, RB Correll Buckhalter with one. Denver receiver Javon Walker, New Orleans RB Deuce McAllister and Tennessee RB Travis Henry each got one vote. Pennington is the fifth quarterback to win the award in its nine years; Brees won it in 2004. He is the first Jet to win. Last year’s recipients were New England linebacker Tedy Bruschi [stats] and Carolina receiver Steve Smith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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