Rockerbraves Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 ESTABLISHED SUCCESSFUL VETERAN....and their aren't any right now....until next year maybe ??? Ok I'll bite...Would you please post a short list of established successful veteran coaches that might be available next season other than Cowher & what is stopping them from going after those coaches now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.D.Morrison Posted January 24, 2007 Author Share Posted January 24, 2007 Ok I'll bite...Would you please post a short list of established successful veteran coaches that might be available next season other than Cowher & what is stopping them from going after those coaches now? How can you provide a short list? You don't know what may transpire over the course of a year.....firings, resignments, other issues such as what happens behind closed doors....and you can't tell me that doesn't happen. I'm just speculating for discussion purposes. Its not as simple as you want to make it be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ryan Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 That's what Dallas needs, a coach that has flopped twice before. Phillips took over a 8-8 Denver team to a 9-7 mark, then a 7-9 mark before getting canned. No post season play. In Buf, he had seasons of 10-6 and 11-5 with losses in the first playoff round of both years. Om 2000, he went 8-8 and got canned. Five seasons as a headcoach meant 2 wildcard losses. What's not to like? In two years as the ATL DC, they had an actual wildcard win in 2002 before losing in the divisional round. Then in 2003, the Falcons went 5-11 and he got canned along with Reeves. Last two years as the SD DC, had one playoff game that was a loss. What's not to like? He fits right in all right. Aint that the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 How can you provide a short list? You don't know what may transpire over the course of a year.....firings, resignments, other issues such as what happens behind closed doors....and you can't tell me that doesn't happen. I'm just speculating for discussion purposes. Its not as simple as you want to make it be. Think you misunderstood the question. Just curious as to which coaches even qualify as an established successful veteran other than Cowher. Belichick for sure. Who else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ryan Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Stoops: Not interested in Cowboys jobBy CLARENCE E. HILL JR. Star-Telegram Staff Writer IRVING - Cowboys owner Jerry Jones might test the collegiate ranks for a new coach, but it won’t be at Oklahoma. Oklahoma head coach Bob Stoops issued a statement Tuesday saying he isn’t interested in any other coaching vacancies at this time. “To end speculation here in the heart of recruiting, I want to make it clear that I am not interested in any other coaching positions at this time,” Stoops said. “I am too excited about our future at Oklahoma and the program we’re continuing to build.” The Cowboys are searching for a head coach after Bill Parcells retired on Monday. Stoops just completed his eighth season. He owns an overall mark of 86-19 and four Big 12 Championships, including the 2006 league title, and one national Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Stoops: Not interested in Cowboys That's pretty smart for Stoops to say that. Maybe he attended one of Saban's negotiation seminars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_bone65 Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 Stoops: Not interested in Cowboys jobBy CLARENCE E. HILL JR. Star-Telegram Staff Writer IRVING - Cowboys owner Jerry Jones might test the collegiate ranks for a new coach, but it won’t be at Oklahoma. Oklahoma head coach Bob Stoops issued a statement Tuesday saying he isn’t interested in any other coaching vacancies at this time. “To end speculation here in the heart of recruiting, I want to make it clear that I am not interested in any other coaching positions at this time,” Stoops said. “I am too excited about our future at Oklahoma and the program we’re continuing to build.” The Cowboys are searching for a head coach after Bill Parcells retired on Monday. Stoops just completed his eighth season. He owns an overall mark of 86-19 and four Big 12 Championships, including the 2006 league title, and one national Didn't Nick Saban say just before he left the Dolphins for Alabama that he wasn't interested in leaving Miami for Alabama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kansas State 2000 Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 The signing period is two weeks away ... WHAT??? do you expect him to say??!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 This is front page new because its Parcells and its the Cowboys. It's news in TX for obvious reasons. It rated a narrow column on the inside sports page yesterday here in Minny and not a mention today. It's a regional thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrograde assault Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 It's news in TX for obvious reasons. It rated a narrow column on the inside sports page yesterday here in Minny and not a mention today. It's a regional thing. Then go follow your bears, their in the superbowl aint they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrograde assault Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Lets go with Dan Reeves for the short term, Cowboy from birth and has more wins than charlie da tuna anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Why do anything for the short term? So that systems and schemes cannot be fully integrated and then change all over again? I'd rather see them take a younger coach with the chance that he may actually coach more than three or four years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrograde assault Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Why do anything for the short term? So that systems and schemes cannot be fully integrated and then change all over again? I'd rather see them take a younger coach with the chance that he may actually coach more than three or four years. Ok, I agree, who is that guy? And it don't look like stoops at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Then go follow your bears, their in the superbowl aint they? Just wanted to point out that Galileo proved centuries ago that Texas isn't actually the center of the universe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrograde assault Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 (edited) Lets get realistic, sports nowadays is all about big money and immediate gratification. Owners will dump a coach after one year and not bat an eye. I'm pretty sure the Cowhers of the world spending 15 years as head coach with one team is a thing of the past, so lets take what we can get, when we can get it, for as long as our owners can stand it. Edited January 25, 2007 by Retrograde assault Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrograde assault Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Just wanted to point out that Galileo proved centuries ago that Texas isn't actually the center of the universe. Maybe for you it ain't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Just wanted to point out that Galileo proved centuries ago that Texas isn't actually the center of the universe. Who is this Galileo you speak of? Has he ever been to East Texas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Lets get realistic, sports nowadays is all about big money and immediate gratification. Owners will dump a coach after one year and not bat an eye. I'm pretty sure the Cowhers of the world spending 15 years as head coach with one team is a thing of the past, so lets take what we can get, when we can get it, for as long as our owners can stand it. I don't argue the point that the door swings open a lot faster now than in years past. It's over for the days of Halas, Landry, Knoll and even Cowhers. But for success - which Dallas wants since they are getting a new billion dollar stadium, changing coaches doesn't usually mean more than accepting bad results at least for a while and if that is repeated every few years, then I just do not see how it can be a good thing to look for anything but a coach you hope sticks with you for a long time. Consider the coaches that all played in the Divisional Round of the playoffs this year and how long they have been with their teams: Andy Reid - 8 Sean Payton - 1 Bill Belichick - 7 Marty Schottenheimer - 5 Mike Holgren - 8 Lovie Smith - 3 Tony Dungy - 5 Brian Billick - 8 So that the only teams that made it past the wildcard round in the playoffs had only two coaches with less than 5 years with their team. Lovie Smith - An outstanding defense playing in a soft division plays big. Sean Payton - Truly astounding and certainly an exception to many rules. It takes time to get a team all on the same page and changing coaches is a setback to be sure. Maybe coaches do not stick around for 10 years anymore, but I think that is how you should select them - not on the idea they are going to turn your team around and get it deep into the playoffs in only a couple of years before they leave and you start over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ryan Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 It's news in TX for obvious reasons. It rated a narrow column on the inside sports page yesterday here in Minny and not a mention today. It's a regional thing. Its news on the Dan Patrick National radio show, as well as ESPN even 3 days after the fact. And monopolizd that same show the full 3 hrs on Monday. Id hardly call a National show, as well as ESPN sportscenter a regional thing. Maybe your newspaper needs to get its head out of its ass, and cover the news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizards Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Wade Phillips--HC Jason Garrett--OC--HC in training If Phillips interview falls out..look for Norv Turner.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theprofessor Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Stoops isnt coming. Just heard it on local ESPN radio. Wade Phillips is said to be the top candidate, with former Cowboy QB Jason Garrett the current Miami QB coach the new OC. Hmmmm ...... I think that was my prediction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theprofessor Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Lets go with Dan Reeves for the short term, Cowboy from birth and has more wins than charlie da tuna anyways. T.O.'s Jerry's boy and until that changes Dan Reeves will NEVER be the Cowboys coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolv Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Wade Phillips--HC Jason Garrett--OC--HC in training If Phillips interview falls out..look for Norv Turner.... My thoughts too, except in reverse. One of the top priorities for the Cowboys is finding a head coach that will develop Romo. None better that are available right now than Turner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 from cowboys.com-- When the start of the business day began here Wednesday morning at Valley Ranch, Jason Garrett arrived seemingly as one of the top candidates for the offensive coordinator position. But as the former Cowboys quarterback and current Miami Dolphins quarterbacks coach left the complex several hours later, there was a drastic change in perception. It became quite clear Garrett was no longer interviewing for just the offensive coordinator position. That's right, put Garrett right in the mix as a possible head coaching candidate, and maybe even at the top. Garrett, who turns 41 in March, spent all day at Valley Ranch, meeting with both team owner Jerry Jones and his son, Stephen, along with former head coach Bill Parcells, who has remained in his office this week despite announcing his retirement from coaching Monday morning. The Dolphins granted permission for the Cowboys to meet with Garrett about becoming the next offensive coordinator in Dallas. But Miami did ask that Garrett make a decision by Thursday whether to sign a contract extension to return as the Dolphins' quarterbacks coach for a third season. However, Garrett's return to Dallas might include something much bigger. In fact, Garrett could agree on a contract with the Cowboys to become at least offensive coordinator as early as Thursday, before the Dolphins' deadline expires. But that wouldn't necessarily take his name out of the running for the Cowboys' vacant head coaching job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kansas State 2000 Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Some question if Garret is ready to be a coordinator ... now he's a HC??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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