Perchoutofwater Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 i guess you don't see many in the trailer park anyway, it seems like i'm the only one, but i think i have to sorta take the builder's side here. to put it crassly, if something on my property is a hazard to people who are dicking around on my property without my permission, the correct solution is you staying the f off my property, not me making sure it is safe for you. I tend to take the same stance myself, but with litigation, it is the builder's best interest as well as SB's to protect the public. This is the reason when I moved into my house a few years ago, I tore down a perfectly good 4' high fence, and put up an 8' high wrought iron fence and gate to prevent neighborhood kids from climbing the fence and drowning in my pool, and then have their parents take me to court. Plus if the builder is using it as a model home, and has employees showing it, if it is over a certain hight (I believe it is 30") of sheer fall, and he has enough employees to fall under OSHA (I think it is 10 but I don't remember) then by federal law, a safety rail is required around it. If it is a fairly decent size builder, and he has half a brain, the threat of OSHA will scare him into doing something, as once the get you on once site, they are more likely to visit your other sites, and some violations (not this one) not only carry stiff fines, but also jail time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted June 1, 2007 Author Share Posted June 1, 2007 i guess you don't see many in the trailer park anyway, it seems like i'm the only one, but i think i have to sorta take the builder's side here. to put it crassly, if something on my property is a hazard to people who are dicking around on my property without my permission, the correct solution is you staying the f off my property, not me making sure it is safe for you. Well, that's kind of my instinct as well to be honest... which is why I keep telling the kids to stay the F away from there. But at the end of the day if they don't listen to me, then it could still hurt them pretty badly. It's not that I necessarily think they have some kind of obligation to protect my kids... it just would have been a nice gesture on their part to help us out (especially after we had just helped them out). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 (edited) Well, that's kind of my instinct as well to be honest... which is why I keep telling the kids to stay the F away from there. But at the end of the day if they don't listen to me, then it could still hurt them pretty badly. It's not that I necessarily think they have some kind of obligation to protect my kids... it just would have been a nice gesture on their part to help us out (especially after we had just helped them out). Well, if the kids don't listen to you give then a savage beating. Edited June 1, 2007 by Perchoutofwater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 Not sure I agree here. Most communities have laws regarding fencing around a pool due to the danger to other children. Seems like a similar situation. maybe so, i guess i can see why communities would pass laws like that. i just think, intuitively, it is not my job to make my yard a safe play area for my neighbors kids, especially if i don't want them there in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiegie Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 i just think, intuitively, it is not my job to make my yard a safe play area for my neighbors kids, especially if i don't want them there in the first place. I agree with this--would it be the builder's fault if he put a guard-dog on a chain in the home's backyard and then your kids got bit by it because they kept running onto the builder's land? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 maybe so, i guess i can see why communities would pass laws like that. i just think, intuitively, it is not my job to make my yard a safe play area for my neighbors kids, especially if i don't want them there in the first place. Your intuition is sorely lacking then sir. Go look up the "attractive nuisance doctrine" and then get back to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayItAintSoJoe Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 I think the builders being a jerk. Forget the laws, building codes, etc. Whatever happened to just being a decent human being. If I were a builder and someone came to me with this concern I would take care of the situation. The last thing I would ever want is for a child to get seriously hurt on my property. That being said, if the jerk refuses to take care of the situation I would just put up a sign on my property for any potential buyers to see that reads: “The builder in this area has been made aware of the potential hazard of window wells to neighborhood children and has refused to remedy the situation.” This could make a few potential buyers nervous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckB Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 I agree with this--would it be the builder's fault if he put a guard-dog on a chain in the home's backyard and then your kids got bit by it because they kept running onto the builder's land? Yes, and he could be sued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thews40 Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 I'd write a letter and have it notarized. Once it's documented, they'll do something about it to cover their ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 i guess you don't see many in the trailer park lol anyway, it seems like i'm the only one, but i think i have to sorta take the builder's side here. to put it crassly, if something on my property is a hazard to people who are dicking around on my property without my permission, the correct solution is you staying the f off my property, not me making sure it is safe for you. In few if any places would the builder not be liable if someone got hurt from that thing. It's similar to having the pool thing as others have said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBalla Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 Have you tried pushing him in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 My first thought was several bags of concrete would resolve the issue. I'd also consider emptying several bottles of molasses into the hole so as to invite an insect infestation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donutrun Jellies Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 It's getting hot. Find a nice plump dead raccoon on the road. Drop it in the hole. Let it start to stink. Call the city Health Department. Watch that dude have to fish it out. Plus no kid will want to fall on the dead raccoon. This is the best answer. Very cre8tiff! DO IT NOW!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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