Are you kidding me? bin Laden may have arranged the post 9/11 charter flight of his family out of the US

[wiegie]

Bin Laden may have arranged family's US exit: FBI docs

 

Jun 20 04:08 PM US/Eastern

 

Osama bin Laden may have chartered a plane that carried his family members and Saudi nationals out of the United States after the September 11, 2001 attacks, said FBI documents released Wednesday.

The papers, obtained through the Freedom of Information Act, were made public by Judicial Watch, a Washington-based group that investigates government corruption.

 

One FBI document referred to a Ryan Air 727 airplane that departed Los Angeles International Airport on September 19, 2001, and was said to have carried Saudi nationals out of the United States.

 

"The plane was chartered either by the Saudi Arabian royal family or Osama bin Laden," according to the document, which was among 224 pages posted online.

 

The flight made stops in Orlando, Florida; Washington, DC; and Boston, Massachusetts and eventually left its passengers in Paris the following day.

 

In all, the documents detail six flights between September 14 and September 24 that evacuated Saudi nationals and bin Laden family members, Judicial Watch said in a statement.

 

"Incredibly, not a single Saudi national nor any of the bin Laden family members possessed any information of investigative value," Judicial Watch said.

 

"These documents contain numerous errors and inconsistencies which call to question the thoroughness of the FBI's investigation of the Saudi flights.

 

"For example, on one document, the FBI claims to have interviewed 20 of 23 passengers on the Ryan International Airlines flight ... on another document the FBI claims to have interviewed 15 to 22 passengers on the same flight."

 

Asked about the documents' assertion that either bin Laden or the Saudi royals ordered the flight, an FBI spokesman said the information was inaccurate.

 

"There is no new information here. Osama bin Laden did not charter a flight out of the US," FBI special agent Richard Kolko said.

 

"This is just an inflammatory headline by Judicial Watch to catch people's attention. This was thoroughly investigated by the FBI."

 

Kolko pointed to the 9-11 Commission Report, which was the book-length result of an official probe into the attacks on the World Trade Center in New York and the Pentagon in Washington that killed nearly 3,000 people.

 

"No political intervention was found. And most important, the FBI conducted a satisfactory screening of Saudi nationals that left on chartered flights. This is all available in the report," Kolko said.

 

On the issue of flights of Saudi nationals leaving the United States, the 9-11 report said: "We found no evidence of political intervention" to facilitate the departure of Saudi nationals.

 

The commission also said: "Our own independent review of the Saudi nationals involved confirms that no one with known links to terrorism departed on these flights."

 

Meredith Diliberto, an attorney with Judicial Watch, said that her group had seen a first version of the documents in 2005, although the FBI had heavily redacted the texts to black out names, including all references to bin Laden.

 

Nevertheless, unedited footnotes in the texts allowed lawyers to determine that bin Laden's name had been redacted. They pressed the issue in court and in November 2006, the FBI was ordered to re-release the documents.

 

Diliberto said mention that "either" bin Laden or Saudi royals had chartered the flight "really threw us for a loop."

 

"When you combine that with some of the family members not being interviewed, we found it very disturbing."

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=07...&show_article=1

[CaP'N GRuNGe]

That's what happens when you have occupants in the White House who are so heavily involved/dependent upon the Saudi Royal Family.

 

I heard somewhere once that President Bush's first business partner was Osama's own brother. That can't be true, can it?

[CaP'N GRuNGe]

That's what happens when you have occupants in the White House who are so heavily involved/dependent upon the Saudi Royal Family.

 

I heard somewhere once that President Bush's first business partner was Osama's own brother. That can't be true, can it?

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbusto_Energy

 

Not a partner, but an investor of sort. Still, small f'n world.

Edited June 20, 2007 by CaP'N GRuNGe

[isleseeya]

This news is not new although story provided by wiegie is more in depth ..had heard about this years ago ...disgrace really but another example of the crookedness of dubya and this administration

 

H8 , where you at ?

[H8tank]

That makes no sense, W brought those buildings down. Besides, terrorism is a nuisance, it's just a bumper sticker.

[Bronco Billy]

Based upon comments above, apparently this part of the report has no credibility:

 

Asked about the documents' assertion that either bin Laden or the Saudi royals ordered the flight, an FBI spokesman said the information was inaccurate.

 

"There is no new information here. Osama bin Laden did not charter a flight out of the US," FBI special agent Richard Kolko said.

 

"This is just an inflammatory headline by Judicial Watch to catch people's attention. This was thoroughly investigated by the FBI."

 

Kolko pointed to the 9-11 Commission Report, which was the book-length result of an official probe into the attacks on the World Trade Center in New York and the Pentagon in Washington that killed nearly 3,000 people.

 

"No political intervention was found. And most important, the FBI conducted a satisfactory screening of Saudi nationals that left on chartered flights. This is all available in the report," Kolko said.

 

On the issue of flights of Saudi nationals leaving the United States, the 9-11 report said: "We found no evidence of political intervention" to facilitate the departure of Saudi nationals.

 

The commission also said: "Our own independent review of the Saudi nationals involved confirms that no one with known links to terrorism departed on these flights."

[CaP'N GRuNGe]

I know I have complete faith in a government investigation of itself.

[polksalet]

That makes no sense, W brought those buildings down. Besides, terrorism is a nuisance, it's just a bumper sticker.

 

 

werd

[TimC]

Clinton got a blow job.

Edited June 21, 2007 by TimC

[Bronco Billy]

I know I have complete faith in a government investigation of itself.

 

 

Rosie would be proud of you.

[Bronco Billy]

Clinton got a blow job.

 

 

I did too. It was before I got married though, so I didn't have to perjure myself or send an attack squad to smear the bimbo that gave it to me.

[bushwacked]

Clinton got a blow job.

 

 

[CaP'N GRuNGe]

Rosie would be proud of you.

 

 

So would any "real" conservatives that distrust big government.

[bushwacked]

So would any "real" conservatives that distrust big government.

 

 

Real conservatives have already left the my favorite party party.

[Bronco Billy]

So would any "real" conservatives that distrust big government.

 

 

Sure. If some credible evidence is produced. Not just out of hand.

[CaP'N GRuNGe]

This story has been out there for a long time that the Bin Laden family and other Saudis were allowed to leave while all other air traffic was grounded. I don't think that fact is in dispute. My question is, were other foreign nationals allowed the same privilege? Ultimately, I do question the close relationship we have with the Saudis when they play both sides of the fence on the terror issue. "You're either with us or against us" is a load of political BS.

[Bronco Billy]

Ultimately, I do question the close relationship we have with the Saudis when they play both sides of the fence on the terror issue. "You're either with us or against us" is a load of political BS.

 

 

I'll agree with this. I do appreciate that the ruling powers in Saudi Arabia walk a very fine line in order to maintain power. That said, their looking the other way when it comes to terrorists amounts to cowardice in the least and complicity at the worst.

[CaP'N GRuNGe]

And the same thing exists in Pakistan. And yes I realize Musharriff is in a difficult position. And yet, what about our position? I've said before and I'll say it again it is unacceptable to me that our intelligence points to NW Pakistan as an Al Qaeda training ground and the most likely location of Osama, and yet we do nothing.

[Codwagon]

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=07...&show_article=1

 

 

 

Maybe W just glanced through the Captain's Logs for the last 8.5 years and they said to let Bin Laden go.

[wiegie]

I'll agree with this. I do appreciate that the ruling powers in Saudi Arabia walk a very fine line in order to maintain power. That said, their looking the other way when it comes to terrorists amounts to cowardice in the least and complicity at the worst.

 

I think they do worse than look the other way--they specifically fund Wahhabist schools around the world that teach their particular brand of fundamentalist Islam.

[CaP'N GRuNGe]

I think they do worse than look the other way--they specifically fund Wahhabist schools around the world that teach their particular brand of fundamentalist Islam.

 

 

After 9-11 happened I was all for a global war on terror which included putting a bullet in the head of any and all financial support for Al Qaeda.

[Bronco Billy]

And the same thing exists in Pakistan. And yes I realize Musharriff is in a difficult position. And yet, what about our position? I've said before and I'll say it again it is unacceptable to me that our intelligence points to NW Pakistan as an Al Qaeda training ground and the most likely location of Osama, and yet we do nothing.

 

 

Mushariff is in a different position. He has no control of outlying provinces and does not have the power to squash them miltarily. He openly and candidly supports the West, which puts a hugh target on him within his own country.

[Azazello1313]

"These documents contain numerous errors and inconsistencies which call to question the thoroughness of the FBI's investigation of the Saudi flights.

 

"For example, on one document, the FBI claims to have interviewed 20 of 23 passengers on the Ryan International Airlines flight ... on another document the FBI claims to have interviewed 15 to 22 passengers on the same flight."

 

 

huh? how is that inconsistant?

[CaP'N GRuNGe]

Before someone throws out the liberal wacko claim on the group making these accusations note:

 

Mission

Judicial Watch describes itself as "a conservative, non-partisan educational foundation" which "promotes transparency, accountability and integrity in government, politics and the law" and "advocates high standards of ethics and morality in our nation’s public life and seeks to ensure that political and judicial officials do not abuse the powers entrusted to them by the American people".[7]

[H8tank]

Before someone throws out the liberal wacko claim

 

Nobody did but you. Most educated people already knew who they were.