Hugh 0ne Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 I am surprised someone who tries so hard on a daily basis not to come across as a complete retard would make a statement as stupid as this. In the future, kindly quote the person as well, I had to re-read the entire thread to find out who the retard is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 In the future, kindly quote the person as well, I had to re-read the entire thread to find out who the retard is. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
untateve Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 I am surprised someone who tries so hard on a daily basis not to come across as a complete retard would make a statement as stupid as this. now H8, that's not very nice. What would Nancy Pelosi say about this mean spirited attack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimC Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 now H8, that's not very nice. What would Nancy Pelosi say about this mean spirited attack? "Klaatu barada nikto" just before laser beams shot out of her eyes. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 "Klaatu barada nikto" just before laser beams shot out of her eyes. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godtomsatan Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 The guy with a noted history of negligent driving made a left turn on a red light with oncoming traffic that resulted in the death of his passenger. I understand the notion of "he's already paid the price of killing someone", but at the very least he should not be able to operate a vehicle for the foreseeable future. If criminal proceedings are required to ensure this, then so be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H8tank Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 WOW way to streeeeeeeetch that one out What if someone fired a gun into the air on a July 4th celebration, then the round came down a mile away and went through the head of an orphan infant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
untateve Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 What if someone fired a gun into the air on a July 4th celebration, then the round came down a mile away and went through the head of an orphan infant? If the infant was an orphan, who really cares? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_gop_liars Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 What if someone fired a gun into the air on a July 4th celebration, then the round came down a mile away and went through the head of an orphan infant? Call it a late term abortion and throw a parade... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 I don't want to make it sound like I want the guy strapped into Ol' Sparky for what he did, either. But the facts appear to be pretty simple - the guy operated his vehicle in an intentionally reckless or irreponsible & illegal manner - take your pick - and the direct result of his actions were that a man died. That has to carry more assigned responsibility than your standard out-of-hand fender bender where everyone goes home & calls their insurance companies afterwards. I guess the bold is what I'm not yet sure of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 I guess the bold is what I'm not yet sure of. Are you implying that he wasn't aware that the turn he was executing was illegal? If he was in a hurry, thought he could pull it and said, "f' it" and went for it, it was intentionally reckless. Dude made a left turn against a red with in front of on-coming traffic. Obviously it was too close to try, 'cause he came up very short. How is that not intentionally reckless? You guys are acting like he randomly blew a tire in the middle of a turn and crashed. Dude broke the law and as a result, a man is dead. What part am I missing here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H8tank Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 You guys are acting like he randomly blew a tire in the middle of a turn and crashed. Dude broke the law and as a result, a man is dead. I don't know how a The Rapist can argue that point right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 I don't know how a The Rapist can argue that point right there. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
untateve Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Are you implying that he wasn't aware that the turn he was executing was illegal? If he was in a hurry, thought he could pull it and said, "f' it" and went for it, it was intentionally reckless. Dude made a left turn against a red with in front of on-coming traffic. Obviously it was too close to try, 'cause he came up very short. How is that not intentionally reckless? You guys are acting like he randomly blew a tire in the middle of a turn and crashed. Dude broke the law and as a result, a man is dead. What part am I missing here? I think hyperbole is invading your argument. Is illegal lane change against the law? How about failing to yield the right of way? Running a stop sign? Following too closely? Driving faster than the posted speed limit? Almost every time there is a car accident, a law is broken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
untateve Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 ? H8's nickname for me "The Rapist" = therapist, although I haven't done therapy in about seven years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 I think hyperbole is invading your argument. Is illegal lane change against the law? How about failing to yield the right of way? Running a stop sign? Following too closely? Driving faster than the posted speed limit? Almost every time there is a car accident, a law is broken. yeah, but making an illegal turn into oncoming traffic, from a lane going straight where there were TWO left turn lanes...that is pretty f'n reckless, and the likelihood of bad accident should be pretty easily foreseeable. the law usually makes distinctions between recklessness and mere negligence, and this would seem to be case where that distinction came into play. a year in the can (maximum) for driving like a complete a-hole and ending up killing a dude? doesn't seem unreasonable to me, if anything he's lucky he doesn't face a stiffer charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 I think hyperbole is invading your argument. Is illegal lane change against the law? How about failing to yield the right of way? Running a stop sign? Following too closely? Driving faster than the posted speed limit? Almost every time there is a car accident, a law is broken. I understand your point. However, it is my opinion that part of the chance you take when you break the law is that you are liable for whatever happens as a result. If the result is a cop sees you and gives you a ticket, well that sucks, I guess. However, if the result is somebody dies, then you're screwed. Of course, it needs to be proven that whatever happened was a direct result of you breaking the law. But that certainly seems to be the case here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Perhaps part of my stance here is that I hate people who do stupid things on the road. Missed your turn? Well sucks for you. Go through the intersection, find the next place to turn around legally and get back on your way. Don't whip across 3 lanes or (just as annoying) stop in the lane you're in and try to weasel into the turn lane holding up a bunch of people behind you because you're too freaking selfish to own your mistake and waste your own time rather than everyone else's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
untateve Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 yeah, but making an illegal turn into oncoming traffic, from a lane going straight where there were TWO left turn lanes...that is pretty f'n reckless, and the likelihood of bad accident should be pretty easily foreseeable. the law usually makes distinctions between recklessness and mere negligence, and this would seem to be case where that distinction came into play. good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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