pig devilz Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Aaron Boone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SOX WIN 2003 ALCS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pig devilz Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 WNBC is now reporting there are 'SOME MISTAKES' on their list.........sheesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Newschannel 4's Jonathan Dienst has obtained names of baseball players expected to be on George Mitchell's list of players linked to performance-enhancing drugs in major league baseball. Baseball officials are refuting several names on the list. A high-ranking MLB official said there are several errors in the list provided to WNBC.com by two sources. Original sources are standing by the preliminary list provided to WNBC.com. Therefore, we working to clarify the list at this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 before you get carried away, dont forget this .....who did what and when? already spinning for varitek, huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 barry bonds is laughing right now. kinda sorta makes everything relative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Aaron Boone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SOX WIN 2003 ALCS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! rockies win 2007 series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 A high-ranking MLB official said there are several errors in the list provided to WNBC.com by two sources. Original sources are standing by the preliminary list provided to WNBC.com. Therefore, we working to clarify the list at this time. maybe that stuff about there being two lists has some substance. i doubt it though. who would be dumb enough to think ALL the MLB teams were tight enough to contain any and all leaks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pig devilz Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 already spinning for varitek, huh? no man, if it is true, i really will be shocked and bummed..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 (edited) Now I'm hearing that list has been pulled for inaccuracies. Can we wait another 90 minutes? Edited December 13, 2007 by Pope Flick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 espn has a 6hr block alotted for this.....atleast we wont hear about the patriots for 6hrs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pig devilz Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Now I'm hearing that list has been pulled for inaccuracies. Can we wait another 90 minutes? yup, wnbc has taken 'the list' out of their article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperCharger Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 espn has a 6hr block alotted for this.....atleast we wont hear about the patriots for 6hrs Good point. Maybe this is a good time to take a nap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godtomsatan Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 No, that is my serious opinion. Why can't players take supplements to enhance their body? Why are some supplements illegal and others aren't? Who gets to choose and why? I'm serious. I believe that not all of the substances they take are necessarily legal, nor are the people distributing them necessarily legally allowed to distribute them for the purposes in which they are being used. I understand what you are saying, but every other sport on the planet and their respective governing bodies have pretty specific guidelines and testing procedures to keep this stuff in check. Baseball not only hasn't had this in place, but more or less condoned the "culture". The immense popularity and success and value of each and every one of the 30 franchises, let alone the billions of dollars of taxpayer dollars used by the franchises to get their palaces built and remodeled, is testament to how much the public (tacitly) loved the stuff too, and for people to bitch and moan about it now is rather laughable. Not to get all grand scheme and stuff on you, but there are immense parallels between this whole baseball mess and our present day society in general. We think it's awesome when people start hitting 70 home runs. We frickin' love it when we steamroll a sovereign nation in the Middle East. We act angry when we find out baseball players cheated, and we act horrified when we find out our government lied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 I believe that not all of the substances they take are necessarily legal, nor are the people distributing them necessarily legally allowed to distribute them for the purposes in which they are being used. I understand what you are saying, but every other sport on the planet and their respective governing bodies have pretty specific guidelines and testing procedures to keep this stuff in check. Baseball not only hasn't had this in place, but more or less condoned the "culture". The immense popularity and success and value of each and every one of the 30 franchises, let alone the billions of dollars of taxpayer dollars used by the franchises to get their palaces built and remodeled, is testament to how much the public (tacitly) loved the stuff too, and for people to bitch and moan about it now is rather laughable. Not to get all grand scheme and stuff on you, but there are immense parallels between this whole baseball mess and our present day society in general. We think it's awesome when people start hitting 70 home runs. We frickin' love it when we steamroll a sovereign nation in the Middle East. We act angry when we find out baseball players cheated, and we act horrified when we find out our government lied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted December 13, 2007 Author Share Posted December 13, 2007 So does all these players get the famous "*****" by their name. If you believe they shouldn't why not? I am curious. Shouldn't everyone get the Barry Bonds treatment if they did steroids period? Of course in theory what you are saying is true but if you think public scorn is going to be the same for Guillermo Mota as it is for the man that broke the most sacred record in baseball you are sadly mistaken..Again . I see where you are going with this but you are not thinking in reality.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miner Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 mlb.com has a pdf of the report Link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miner Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Being a Cardinal fan, I searched the pdf document for Pujols, and his name was not mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguinsfan Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Being a Cardinal fan, I searched the pdf document for Pujols, and his name was not mentioned. I did the exact same thing...quite a few of the names on that original "list" aren't mentioned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budlitebrad Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Nothing too earth-shattering in there to be honest. Tejada, Lo Duca, Pettite, Clemens, and a bunch of 90s Yankees. I was expecting more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Being a Cardinal fan, I searched the pdf document for Pujols, and his name was not mentioned. all 409 pages? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguinsfan Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 all 409 pages? yes...using the "search" feature of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiley Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 all 409 pages? There are sections where they list out the players. I didn't see any mention of Pujols either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 they only really seem to have had a couple of sources, a former mets clubhouse attendant (kirk radomski) and a trainer (brian mcnamee) who followed clemens from toronto to the yankees. what that tells me is the names listed in the report are but the tip of the iceberg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pig devilz Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 anybody found a page number with a list of the players in the PDF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunning Linguist Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 the names start around page 196 How ESPN will handle Fernando Vina will be interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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