Big Ernie McCracken Posted August 19, 2008 Author Share Posted August 19, 2008 (edited) At what point is it absolutely necessary? I am sure Jackson is figuring that time is now, before suffering a fluke knee injury during camp. Here you are in another one of my useless cut and paste threads. You tool Edited August 19, 2008 by Big Ernie McCracken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Here you are in another one of my useless cut and paste threads. You tool As difficult as I'm sure this is for you to believe, good discussions can occur at this board despite you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ernie McCracken Posted August 19, 2008 Author Share Posted August 19, 2008 As difficult as I'm sure this is for you to believe, good discussions can occur at this board despite you. And in spite of you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
untateve Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 If I"m Jackson and I know that I've only got about 5 years to make my $$, I hold out. I can't recall the name of the packer WR who came into camp without a contract and tore up his knee before the season started. Do you think he was compensated as well as he would have been if he had held out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Trick Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 If I"m Jackson and I know that I've only got about 5 years to make my $$, I hold out. I can't recall the name of the packer WR who came into camp without a contract and tore up his knee before the season started. Do you think he was compensated as well as he would have been if he had held out? Javon Walker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 If I"m Jackson and I know that I've only got about 5 years to make my $$, I hold out. Remind me again, how much money do you make during your hold out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
untateve Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Remind me again, how much money do you make during your hold out? When a player holds out, he does not get paid. I'm surprised you didn't know that. However, he also does not risk a career ending injury if he holds out. The shelf life for football players is pretty limited. Owners are making millions upon millions. I cannot find fault with a player who is looking to capitalize on performing well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 During training camp, the money SJax is missing out on is the fines for holding out while under contract and a minimal training-camp stipend all players get in there. If the holdout extends into the regular season, then he loses 1/17 of the contract for each week missed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qball86 Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 You sign the contract, you fulfill the contract. Holdouts for new contracts are BS no matter how you have performed. +1 He's worth a lot more than what he is being paid. When we do more than we are paid for, eventually we will be paid more for what we do. Let's supposed Jackson gets injured in camp and ends his career. Do you believe that St. Louis doesn't cut him and he lose out on his salary? But wait, the Rams signed a contract...of course teams never cut players whose careers are over even though they signed a contract. Isn't this the "risk" in risk v. reward? Don't get me wrong, I certainly don't want to see athletes being "taken" by a savvy team owner and they should absolutely be compensated "fairly". Something just doesn't sit well with it being "ok" for someone to commit to an organization by signing a contract and before it comes to term saying I know I contractually obligated myself to do something but now I don't want to. Like its extortion or something. Either quit or fulfill your obligation regardless of how "unfair" you now feel the deal you negotiated is. How long before a team says to a player, "You didn't perform the way we would have liked so we're not going to pay, or play you again until you agree to take less money for your effort?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'canes2004 Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Any Rams homers know how far apart they are in negotiations? As a SJax owner in a couple of leagues, I hope he comes back new contract or not but I do see why he wants to get paid more. Maybe he just hates camp/pre-season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubfoothead Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 When we do more than we are paid for, eventually we will be paid more for what we do. I'll need a link there please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jody Bo Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Why would a player with a contract get an insurance policy? I don't even know how that would be written. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 And in spite of you Fascinating retort...quite the literary genius, aren't you? Back under the rock, BM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ernie McCracken Posted August 20, 2008 Author Share Posted August 20, 2008 Fascinating retort...quite the literary genius, aren't you? Back under the rock, BM. It took you all day to blurt that out. You are a bottom feeder and a dummy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 It took you all day to blurt that out. You are a bottom feeder and a dummy and yet, you still continue to stalk my profile...noticed you've been hanging around. Sorry, BM, no pics for you to use. Perhaps highschoolboys. com will have what you are looking for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 When we do more than we are paid for, eventually we will be paid more for what we do. Then Randy Moss has alot of straight cash coming, homey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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