BearBroncos Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 (edited) The way I look at it, it needs to be a player that can make an impact no matter the circumstance. Moss SUCKED in raider land but has an all star QB throwing passes to him and I think Wayne would only be marginal IMHO but also has an all star QB throwing passes. In orders how I would rate them. C. Johnson - Because he's had nothing but crap throwing to him but has still performed extremely well and would be an outstaning WR if he had an offense. Fitzy - This guy has talent, I don't think anyone can refute that and I think he could make an impact with any team. White - Has a decent QB throwing to him, but his ability to get yards after the catch and has grown and learned the game better than anyone I've seen. Just my two cents. Edited September 15, 2009 by BearBroncos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt770 Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Mario Manningham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdnsnow Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Randy Moss in both real life and fantasy...and I hate the Patriots! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonkis Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Mario Manningham. +1 to the Ohio boy who played college in Michigan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearBroncos Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Randy Moss in both real life and fantasy...and I hate the Patriots! Again, I revert back to how well did Moss do while at the Raiders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleeping King Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 (edited) Again, I revert back to how well did Moss do while at the Raiders? And how well did he do in the other 9 seasons he has played? In his first year in Oakland he had 1005 and 8. That's a long way from poor. He has had one below average season in his entire career. He has 135 receiving touchdowns in 170 games. In fact compared to Rice, his receiving touchdowns per game look like this. Jerry Rice career=0.65 per game Jerry Rice as a 49er=0.74 per game Randy Moss career=0.79 per game I'm not debating whether he is better than Rice, that is for the future, but the stats don't lie. Granted touchdowns are not the only important stat but he has plenty of others I can bring up. He is the best WR other than Rice, now or ever. Edited September 15, 2009 by Sleeping King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorcher Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Whichever DB's are playing against the Panthers are the best wide receivers in the NFL. It does help that Jake hits them right in the numbers, tho. You've got that right. Looks like some one in Atlanta is getting ready to be the best receiver ever! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Again, I revert back to how well did Moss do while at the Raiders? Aaron Brooks would rather throw backward passes to his own linemen for some reason. Remember those days? Or are they too woosy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wizards Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Steve Smith of the Panthers. Absolutely the toughest and most physical receiver in NFL. Even when Delhomme looks only for him and teams pull the safety over to double him on routes he still catches the ball (sometimes thrown poorly) in traffic and does not go down on the first hit....if he had Warner, Rodgers, Brady,etc throwing to him he would be so big of a monster WR, others would pale in comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Steve Smith of the Panthers. Absolutely the toughest and most physical receiver in NFL. Even when Delhomme looks only for him and teams pull the safety over to double him on routes he still catches the ball (sometimes thrown poorly) in traffic and does not go down on the first hit....if he had Warner, Rodgers, Brady,etc throwing to him he would be so big of a monster WR, others would pale in comparison. Hey, 5 INT Delhome, imma let you finished but... Randy Moss is the best WR this era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Like Soup Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 Randy Moss is the best WR this era. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Muto Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 2 words folks Randy Moss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Neutron Posted September 16, 2009 Share Posted September 16, 2009 I like Fitz as the best WR in football. Moss is a tremendous talent, but he doesn't seem to try real hard a lot of the time. Fitzgerald plays with intensity and focus on every play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pig devilz Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 best today....Moss g.o.a.t.......Randy's time ain't up yet, so we'll see. or how bout Mike Vrabel......8 receptions/8 touchdowns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spider321 Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 g.o.a.t.......Randy's time ain't up yet, so we'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 Yeah Moss's record doesn't count. No one's counts unless you play only 12 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziachild007 Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 I wish Andre Johnson (or Calvin Johnson for that matter) had GOOD QBs throwing to them, so they would get the respect they deserve. Of course you all know I am going to say Andre, but unless you are watching him on a weekly basis you don't really realize how good he is. I think Fitz is probably #2, but it makes it a ton easier when you have Warner throwing and Boldin on the other side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearBroncos Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 And how well did he do in the other 9 seasons he has played? In his first year in Oakland he had 1005 and 8. That's a long way from poor. He has had one below average season in his entire career. He has 135 receiving touchdowns in 170 games. In fact compared to Rice, his receiving touchdowns per game look like this. Jerry Rice career=0.65 per game Jerry Rice as a 49er=0.74 per game Randy Moss career=0.79 per game I'm not debating whether he is better than Rice, that is for the future, but the stats don't lie. Granted touchdowns are not the only important stat but he has plenty of others I can bring up. He is the best WR other than Rice, now or ever. I notice you showed only the first year that Moss was in Oakland. His 2006 season brought 553 receiving yards and 3 TD's. Or how about the last year in Min? 767 receiving yards and 13 TD's. Not to say he could have done better, but his attitude is why he was traded. He refused to perform to get traded and in my opinion, that makes for a bad player. You play hard for what ever team your with. That's what I LOVED about Berry Sanders. A horrid team and probably the worst offensive line in the NFL but he played hard and did amazing things and never whined about it. That's why I give Calvin better marks than Moss. Granted, this is just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleeping King Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 I notice you showed only the first year that Moss was in Oakland. His 2006 season brought 553 receiving yards and 3 TD's. Or how about the last year in Min? 767 receiving yards and 13 TD's. Not to say he could have done better, but his attitude is why he was traded. He refused to perform to get traded and in my opinion, that makes for a bad player. You play hard for what ever team your with. That's what I LOVED about Berry Sanders. A horrid team and probably the worst offensive line in the NFL but he played hard and did amazing things and never whined about it. That's why I give Calvin better marks than Moss. Granted, this is just my opinion. In 2004 he scored 13 times and only played 13 games. He's been injured twice and both season are his worst 2004 and 2006. Calvin is tremendous but how about this, Calvin's rookie season he had 756 and 4. Now I'm sure you will say he was just a rookie. Well Moss went for 1313 and 17 as a rookie. The other excuse will be that he was hurt. Well like I mentioned that is the only thing that has ever caused a bad season for Moss. And one of those "bad seasons" he scored 13 touchdowns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearBroncos Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 In 2004 he scored 13 times and only played 13 games. He's been injured twice and both season are his worst 2004 and 2006. Calvin is tremendous but how about this, Calvin's rookie season he had 756 and 4. Now I'm sure you will say he was just a rookie. Well Moss went for 1313 and 17 as a rookie. The other excuse will be that he was hurt. Well like I mentioned that is the only thing that has ever caused a bad season for Moss. And one of those "bad seasons" he scored 13 touchdowns. I won't use him being a rookie as an excuse and I do see your argument. I'm just a person who takes the players attitude into account and Moss had some serious Geoff George moments in his younger years. In this case, my opinion is tainted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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