polksalet Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/dome...alth-care-bill- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_gop_liars Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 "dangerously expands, in an ominous way the tentacles of the IRS and it's reach into every American family," - Henry J. Waternoose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polksalet Posted March 20, 2010 Author Share Posted March 20, 2010 "dangerously expands, in an ominous way the tentacles of the IRS and it's reach into every American family," - Henry J. Waternoose If this is indeed true, do you believe it expands personal freedom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 More government control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosberg34 Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 More government control Democrats and Liberals are in an orgiastic glee right now. The fight for a true Socialist state is gaining ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 The fight for a true Socialist state is gaining ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 Boustany said the bill would allow the IRS to confiscate refunds if there are penalties for not buying health care. So what? Isn't it the right that's always bellyaching against freeloaders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosberg34 Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 So what? Isn't it the right that's always bellyaching against freeloaders? Our current government doesn't take money away from the freeloaders. It takes it away from the people that actually work and accomplish something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 Our current government doesn't take money away from the freeloaders. It takes it away from the people that actually work and accomplish something. People not purchasing health care will be freeloaders so why not confiscate their rebate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mucca Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 People not purchasing health care will be freeloaders so why not confiscate their rebate? That's right, and if you don't have health insurance and don't pay taxes, you get free room/board/and health care courtesy of your local prison. I love this Country more and more every day, can't wait for the gubments bread lines to start forming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 That's right, and if you don't have health insurance and don't pay taxes, you get free room/board/and health carecourtesy of your local prison. I love this Country more and more every day, can't wait for the gubments bread lines to start forming. People who don't pay taxes DO get rebates. It's one of the things you and your ilk piss and moan about all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosberg34 Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 People who don't pay taxes DO get rebates. It's one of the things you and your ilk piss and moan about all the time. Yes, we do. More people should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosberg34 Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 People not purchasing health care will be freeloaders so why not confiscate their rebate? No they won't. They'll be exercising their freedom of choice. However, If you believe the government should be taking care of your every need (like you and your ilk do) then you would consider them freeloaders. Let me ask you this: Are you going to "force" illegal immigrants to purchase Health Care as well? Or do they get to continue to use the system for free? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 No they won't. They'll be exercising their freedom of choice. However, If you believe the government should be taking care of your every need (like you and your ilk do) then you would consider them freeloaders. Let me ask you this: Are you going to "force" illegal immigrants to purchase Health Care as well? Or do they get to continue to use the system for free? Illegal immigrants are specifically excluded. Now, back to the original discussion - are people using ERs as primary health care and stiffing the bill freeloaders or "exercising their freedom of choice"? Before health care reform they were a bunch of freeloading toads, according to you and the other weasels. Suddenly they're heroic freedom fighters? Pretzel much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mucca Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 Illegal immigrants are specifically excluded. Now, back to the original discussion - are people using ERs as primary health care and stiffing the bill freeloaders or "exercising their freedom of choice"? Before health care reform they were a bunch of freeloading toads, according to you and the other weasels. Suddenly they're heroic freedom fighters? Pretzel much? Don't believe anyone here was advocating this. SPIN MUCH? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 Let me ask you this: Are you going to "force" illegal immigrants to purchase Health Care as well? Or do they get to continue to use the system for free? Illegal immigrants are specifically excluded. That's because they won't be illiegal for much longer... amnesty will be back on the docket as soon as this Obamacare fiasco is forced upon us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mucca Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 People who don't pay taxes DO get rebates. It's one of the things you and your ilk piss and moan about all the time. Obviously another piece of legislation passed by your liberal friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 That's because they won't be illiegal for much longer... amnesty will be back on the docket as soon as this Obamacare fiasco is forced upon us. Amnesty would be the Christian thing to do wouldn't it? How come the religious right isn't pushing for it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mucca Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 Amnesty would be the Christian thing to do wouldn't it? How come the religious right isn't pushing for it? No the Christian thing to do would be to round up all the lost souls and bus them back to the border to their families. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 Obama can't pass an amnesty bill. He's investing too many resources in taking away all our guns, shutting down right wing radio, forcing our kids into the black panthers, and putting everyone in Socialist Concentration Camps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 Amnesty would be the Christian thing to do wouldn't it? How come the religious right isn't pushing for it? Would clemency for murderers and child molesters be the Christian thing to do as well? We could empty all of our prisons and save a bunch of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
untateve Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 That's because they won't be illiegal for much longer... amnesty will be back on the docket as soon as this Obamacare fiasco is forced upon us. unfair to put this solely on obama. bush was also in favor of amnesty. whoever is in office is in favor of amnesty. I wonder how many new voters that might create? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 Don't believe anyone here was advocating this. SPIN MUCH? So people sponging off the ER were OK? Is that what you are saying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mucca Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 So people sponging off the ER were OK? Is that what you are saying? No that's not what I said, or never did say that, and can't really figure out why you would even say I said that, other than your spinning again. Oh and by the way, for the record I didn't say that people sponging off other peoples paychecks to pay for their health care was OK either, just in case you want to say I said that too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBoog Posted March 21, 2010 Share Posted March 21, 2010 ...blah, blah... Now, back to the original discussion ... blah blah, blah. Back to 101. Unless the "progressives" frame the debate to within their comfortable parameters, there is no discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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