Oil still spilling Obama says "keep drilling!"

[SEC=UGA]

Its ok if you think I am a nutjob for believing this. You have been conditioned to think that way. It isn't your fault.

 

But the clues are all around you. All you have to do is open your eyes and see them. Hell, they have even dropped thier veil of secrecy to a degree. They are conditioning us with terms like Global Governenace, and even New World Order has been uttered by some of those actively involved in implementing the process.

 

The biggest events in all of history have all been conspiracy's.

 

[Ursa Majoris]

I think you give them WAY too much credit.

+1

[bpwallace49]

Its ok if you think I am a nutjob for believing this. You have been conditioned to think that way. It isn't your fault.

 

But the clues are all around you. All you have to do is open your eyes and see them. Hell, they have even dropped thier veil of secrecy to a degree. They are conditioning us with terms like Global Governenace, and even New World Order has been uttered by some of those actively involved in implementing the process.

 

The biggest events in all of history have all been conspiracy's.

 

How does the Elliot Wave Theory fit into this?

[SEC=UGA]

How does the Elliot Wave Theory fit into this?

 

I'm deducting a point for a low blow...

 

However, you do bring up an interesting correlation.

[rajncajn]

Its ok if you think I am a nutjob for believing this. You have been conditioned to think that way. It isn't your fault.

 

But the clues are all around you. All you have to do is open your eyes and see them. Hell, they have even dropped thier veil of secrecy to a degree. They are conditioning us with terms like Global Governenace, and even New World Order has been uttered by some of those actively involved in implementing the process.

 

The biggest events in all of history have all been conspiracy's.

You're a nutjob alright, but I'm cool with that.

 

I know this is going to sound condescending, but it's really not meant to be. You're certainly welcome to your beliefs, but I feel sorry that in believing this you must be very miserable. .

[bpwallace49]

I'm deducting a point for a low blow...

 

However, you do bring up an interesting correlation.

 

Where is Brent?

[SEC=UGA]

Where is Brent?

 

In some field at the "pick up site"

[rattsass]

Right, okay everybody is having some fun now! That's more like it.

 

None of those Jews on their way to the concentration camps believed the "conspiracy theories" about the Nazi's.

 

You all just get on the trains, everything is juuuuuuuuuuust fine.

[rattsass]

I know this is going to sound condescending, but it's really not meant to be. You're certainly welcome to your beliefs, but I feel sorry that in believing this you must be very miserable. .

I'll tell you I am not miserable. Because there enough wackos like me around to cast a light on darkness. Because I still believe in the spirit of the American people. I refuse to believe that this country will succumb to giving up their doctrines. I refuse to believe that people will give up their guns. And the guns certainly must be taken away before the plan meets fruition.

 

The testing ground for the NWO in Europe has been an utter failure, and thanks to real American heroes like William Cooper, there are far too many people aware of what is going on. That is why we have seen an explosion of socialistic agendas being hatched in a short time. The NWO is desperate to impliment their plans. You all can sit here and argue Bush this and Obama that, but they have been on the same team all along. One monster was created so that another could come and "save the day." Fortunately for us, Obama is being found out at last, and there is going to be major resistance shown in these upcoming elections.

[peepinmofo]

In ratts defense (not that he needs it), I thought the same as most everyone up until recently. While it might be hard to believe, just be open minded and give it a chance. Watch a few videos and I PROMISE you you will at least begin understand there is a lot more corruption than you may think.

[Ursa Majoris]

I think Elvis came down in a UFO and did 9/11.

[rattsass]

How does the Elliot Wave Theory fit into this?

William Cooper - Behold a Pale Horse. Read it. It is in there.

[SuperBalla]

Tell me the Red Sox world series' wins were real...right?

 

 

Buckner...you operative...damn you!!!!!

Edited May 26, 2010 by SuperBalla

[SuperBalla]

Let's recreate the phone converstaion of Tony Hayward and Pres Obama April 20, 2010.

 

: Phone rings:

 

Obama: "Yell'oh"

 

what happens next?

[whomper]

caption this correctly and win a high five

[i_am_the_swammi]

caption this correctly and win a high five

 

This tasty treat would be great sauteed in a little oil.

[CaP'N GRuNGe]

caption this correctly and win a high five

 

"This tastes like rat's ass."

[SuperBalla]

caption this correctly and win a high five

 

 

That'll teach that Ratass....

[CaP'N GRuNGe]

William Cooper - Behold a Pale Horse. Read it. It is in there.

 

Ummm...you didn't exactly help your cause any here methinks.

 

Milton William "Bill" Cooper (May 6, 1943 - November 5, 2001) was an American writer, shortwave broadcaster, conspiracy theorist, and the head of the largest civilian intelligence gathering operation ever created.[citation needed] Cooper came to public awareness in the late 1980s when he promulgated a number of theories dealing with the assassination of President Kennedy and alleged links between the United States government and various extra-terrestrial races.

 

[rattsass]

Ummm...you didn't exactly help your cause any here methinks.

 

 

 

I said READ the book, Not what some douchebag wrote on Wiki. You are caught up in our "sound bite" society. You read that paragraph and dismiss the man, his work, and his legacy.

 

Kind of like Joe Blow hears Obama say that the Arizona law has the potential to lead to profiling and then you just assume the bill contains a provision for profiling. Instead of reading the bill yourself, you accept what was heard in the soundbite.

 

Yes, you have been properly trained by your masters.

[tazinib1]

Where is whats her name when you need her.

[CaP'N GRuNGe]

[Perchoutofwater]

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/articl...lins-hands-too/

 

 

BP liked Obama, but oil stained Palin's hands too

 

By Robert Farley

Published on Monday, May 24th, 2010 at 8:29 p.m.

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Crude oil churns across the surface of the Gulf of Mexico

 

On Fox News Sunday, Sarah Palin suggested oil money steered to Barack Obama during the presidential election may have slowed the administration's response to the massive BP oil gusher in the Gulf of Mexico.

 

The comments from the former Republican vice presidential nominee came in response to Fox host Chris Wallace's question about how she thought the Obama administration has handled the oil spill so far.

 

"Well, I think that there is perhaps a hesitancy to -- I don't really know how to put this, Chris, except to say that the oil companies who have so supported President Obama in his campaign and are supportive of him now -- I don't know why the question isn't asked by the mainstream media and by others if there's any connection with the contributions made to President Obama and his administration and the support by the oil companies to the administration," Palin said.

 

"If there's any connection there to President Obama taking so doggone long to get in there, to dive in there, and grasp the complexity and the potential tragedy that we are seeing here in the Gulf of Mexico -- now, if this was President Bush or if this were a Republican in office who hadn't received as much support even as President Obama has from B.P. and other oil companies, you know the mainstream media would be all over his case in terms of asking questions why the administration didn't get in there and make sure that the regulatory agencies were doing what they were doing with the oversight to make sure that things like this don't happen."

 

The implications from Palin's comments are clear, but her comments are framed as a question or a hypothetical rather than as a fact that we could put to the Truth-O-Meter. Nonetheless, we think we can bring some facts to these comments to provide some context.

 

The fact is, the oil and gas industry throws around a lot of money in Washington. The industry spent $174 million lobbying Congress in 2009, ranking it behind only the pharmaceutical/health products industry and business associations. By contrast, the Center for Responsive Politics notes that the entire environmental movement spent $22 million on lobbying in 2009.

 

In 2009, BP alone spent $16 million to influence legislation; and another $3.5 million in the first quarter of 2010. According to the Center for Responsive Politics, its agenda included lobbying actively on the American Clean Energy Leadership Act of 2009, which allows increased oil and gas leasing in the Gulf of Mexico; as well as on the Oil Spill Prevention Act of 2009 and the Clean Water Restoration Act.

 

More of BP's money has been heading to the campaigns of Republicans than Democrats. And as an industry, about three quarters of the oil and gas money has gone to Republicans since 1990, the Center on Responsive Politics noted. That disparity held true in the 2008 presidential campaign, as McCain and his running-mate Palin accepted $2.4 million in contributions from the oil industry, more than double the nearly $900,000 that went to Obama.

 

But curiously, when you look at BP in particular, Obama took the lion's share.

 

During the 2008 election cycle, Obama was the largest recipient of BP's largess; collecting $71,051 from BP employees (remember, Obama did not take any PAC money). By comparison, McCain, got $36,649 from BP. So Obama held a sizable edge in contributions from BP, even though in general BP sent more money to Republican candidates than Democrats that election cycle.

 

In all, the Obama campaign took in about $750 million. So while $71,051 from BP employees is nothing to scoff at, it was a relative drop in the bucket to his campaign coffers.

 

And to be fair, we also took a look at Palin's contributions from 2006 when she ran, successfully, for governor of Alaska. According to data from National Institute on Money in State Politics, Palin received $4,500 from BP employees that year; and about $15,500 from the gas and oil industry as a whole. That was significantly less than her Democratic opponent, Tony Knowles, who raked in about $25,500 from the oil and gas industry.

 

"She (Palin) didn't raise a lot of money from oil and gas," said Edwin Bender, executive director of the institute.

 

And that's not particularly surprising, he said. Every candidate in Alaska gets some oil money, and Knowles likely got more because he was simply better-known at the time, Bender said.

 

But back to Palin's suggestion about Obama. The claim seems especially curious in light of the tone taken by the Obama campaign back in 2008, as White House secretary Robert Gibbs reminded viewers on CBS' Face the Nation on May 23, 2010.

 

"Well, Sarah Palin was involved in that election, but I don't think apparently was paying a whole lot of attention," Gibbs said. "I'm almost sure that the oil companies don't consider the Obama administration a huge ally. We proposed a windfall profits tax when they jacked their oil prices up to charge more for gasoline."

 

In August of 2008, PolitiFact weighed in on an ad from the Obama campaign -- called "Pocket," as in "McCain is in the pocket of big oil" -- which criticized McCain for taking more than $2 million in oil company contributions and noting that Obama was calling for a windfall tax on oil company profits. A frequent campaign jab from Obama's stump speeches was that, "McCain will give more tax breaks to big oil." It was a claim we ruled Barely True -- McCain was calling for cutting the corporate tax rate for all companies, not just oil companies. But the point is that the Obama campaign took pains to try to tie McCain to big oil; and portray Obama as someone who would fight against big oil influence in Washington. In fact, the Democratic National Committee launched a whole campaign along that theme, including T-shirts with the jab, "ExxonMcCain'08."

 

While some of that can be dismissed as campaign rhetoric, it's also true that oil companies were (and are) concerned about Obama's cap-and-trade climate change proposal, as well as his then-proposal for a windfall profits tax. (Incidentally, that's Promise No. 446 in our Obama campaign promise database, and we've got it rated on the Obameter as Stalled).

 

So by way of review: Obama got more during the campaign from BP employees than McCain did; but McCain got significantly more from the oil and gas industry as a whole. BP has spent a lot of money lobbying since Obama became president, but that money has gone to Democrats and Republicans alike -- and most often to those on energy-related committees.

 

"They (oil industry contributors) play both sides of the aisle," said Bender. "The money goes to whoever is in power. They want to be at the table talking."

 

So in summary this long red herring of an article states that Repubs received more money from the oil industry, but Obama received more from BP the company that actually controls the well that is spewing oil all over the gulf. The same company that had a regulating agency say they didn't need to check them. Is that about right? You wanted to try to throw out some cover fire.

[Dr. Sacrebleu]

I think Ratsass is well on the way to clinching the coveted Worst Tailgate Debater Award.

Just to recap:

In a thread that he started about the political ramifications of the Gulf Spill, while decrying the politicizing of the disaster, Obama is a socialist who is NOT sufficiently regulating private enterprise, but will get his comeuppance in these upcoming elections that are so totally and completely rigged that the opposition party (that one might note has been pretty damn oppositional this last year and a half) was willing to commit political suicide in the last election to get Obama elected.

'zat about sum it up?

[whomper]

That'll teach that Ratass....

 

 

Where is whats her name when you need her.

 

 

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