No FT for Flynn

[Seahawks21]

Hasselbeck and Brunell come to mind, and were both also backups in Green Bay. Flynn doesn't pass the eye test to me. Doesn't have the arm strength. He just doesn't look the part. The vast majority of good NFL QB's in recent history are handsome. Guys that physically look confident. Flynn looks like a dork. He walks like a dork. He talks like a dork. The Mannings are about the only guys I can think of that break this mold in recent history, but they at least have the body for it. The way Flynn moves and carries himself is very similar to Charlie Whitehurst. I just can't throw that much money at a guy that doesn't pass the eyeball test.

[CrimsonGhost]

Hasselbeck and Brunell come to mind, and were both also backups in Green Bay. Flynn doesn't pass the eye test to me. Doesn't have the arm strength. He just doesn't look the part. The vast majority of good NFL QB's in recent history are handsome. Guys that physically look confident. Flynn looks like a dork. He walks like a dork. He talks like a dork. The Mannings are about the only guys I can think of that break this mold in recent history, but they at least have the body for it. The way Flynn moves and carries himself is very similar to Charlie Whitehurst. I just can't throw that much money at a guy that doesn't pass the eyeball test.

 

So you judge qbs by looks? thats pretty gay.

[Seahawks21]

So you judge qbs by looks? thats pretty gay.

And of course by how they look in their Wranglers.

[Dcat]

Yeah, and Andy Reid said that Kevin Kolb is a good QB too.....

 

 

and this is relevant to Flynn how?

 

Sorry, but to analogize the 2 is just faulty logic. One has nothing to do with the other.

[BeeR]

He just doesn't look the part. The vast majority of good NFL QB's in recent history are handsome. Guys that physically look confident. Flynn looks like a dork. He walks like a dork. He talks like a dork. The Mannings are about the only guys I can think of that break this mold in recent history, but they at least have the body for it.

Is there a smiley face that shows its butt cheeks clenching? I know you're on the west coast and all but

[Bronco Billy]

3 years

 

 

Actually Sunday night

 

[Gopher]

So you judge qbs by looks? thats pretty gay.

Maybe not

[Ditkaless Wonders]

In wondering what the Packers might do in regard to Flynn I do not stop my analysis at what cap room they have currently available. I also consider what cap room they might have available if they part ways with Clifton, Driver, Grant, and perhaps Woodson or Collins.

 

The Packers asre likely to have a cap space number much closer to double what they currently have when roster moves are made. My belief is they can and will also cut bait on Hawk. I think that Walden and Howard Green are not coming back, but I think they may not be reflected in the cap right now.

 

The Packers will have enough room to sign Finley and Wells. As well they will have enought room to make a play for a big time F.A. or to tag Flynn, but not both. At least they will if they cut the dead weight. My personal hope is that Collins can come back, that they cut Woodson unless he restructures for one third what he currently makes, and that Clifton, and Driver are let go, respectfully, that Grant is thanked for his service, and that Hawk is gone with a handshake and expedience.

 

Woodson may have another year or even two left as an undersized safety, but he was cooked before this year as a corner. He has no speed left and is overpaid for what he can now contribute. Driver has been great, past tense. Same with Clifton. This is a business, and a hard one at that, but these guys are done and Hawk never was. Hanging on to th epast, even the recent fond past is the road to ruination, particularly when you are paying for sentiment.

 

The real questio to me is whether to hold Flynn and hope for trade value quickly, or to make an impact in Free Agency.

[piratesownninjas]

In wondering what the Packers might do in regard to Flynn I do not stop my analysis at what cap room they have currently available. I also consider what cap room they might have available if they part ways with Clifton, Driver, Grant, and perhaps Woodson or Collins.

 

The Packers asre likely to have a cap space number much closer to double what they currently have when roster moves are made. My belief is they can and will also cut bait on Hawk. I think that Walden and Howard Green are not coming back, but I think they may not be reflected in the cap right now.

 

The Packers will have enough room to sign Finley and Wells. As well they will have enought room to make a play for a big time F.A. or to tag Flynn, but not both. At least they will if they cut the dead weight. My personal hope is that Collins can come back, that they cut Woodson unless he restructures for one third what he currently makes, and that Clifton, and Driver are let go, respectfully, that Grant is thanked for his service, and that Hawk is gone with a handshake and expedience.

 

Woodson may have another year or even two left as an undersized safety, but he was cooked before this year as a corner. He has no speed left and is overpaid for what he can now contribute. Driver has been great, past tense. Same with Clifton. This is a business, and a hard one at that, but these guys are done and Hawk never was. Hanging on to th epast, even the recent fond past is the road to ruination, particularly when you are paying for sentiment.

 

The real questio to me is whether to hold Flynn and hope for trade value quickly, or to make an impact in Free Agency.

Indianapolis - Though the NFL has not released exact figures on the 2012 salary cap limit, all indications are that the number will remain flat this year.

That means teams can expect the salary cap to be around $120 million again.

In the case of the Green Bay Packers, that's not all bad news.

 

According to a source with access to NFL salary information, the Packers have $113,356,169 dedicated to their '12 salary cap, leaving them roughly $7 million to deal with free agents like TE Jermichael Finley, C Scott Wells, RB Ryan Grant and CB Jarrett Bush.

 

That's not a bad position to be in given that the Packers have 63 players under contract. Only the top 51 count against the cap, a total which reaches roughly $110.9 million.

 

But the Packers also have $2,429,818 of so-called "dead" money or salary cap charges left over from players they released or traded after June 1 of last year. That figure vaults their obligation to $113.3 million.

 

For all those who think the Packers can put a franchise tag on QB Matt Flynn and then trade him, consider that the Packers would have to fit in the $14 million one-year tender by releasing players.

 

They also would need to have a deal in place with Finley so that he could not walk away an unrestricted free agent. So, to do the Flynn maneuver, they'd have to sign Finley (and the others) AND find a way to clear $10 million to $14 million off their cap.

 

It's not going to happen.

 

Putting the franchise tag on Finley, however, is not a problem. The franchise number for tight ends is expected to drop from $7.3 million in 2011 to about $5.5 million due to the change in how the figure is calculated under the new collective bargaining agreement.

 

There has been talk that Finley will attempt to qualify as a receiver for franchise tag purposes, but he clearly played the majority of his snaps in-line as a tight end and won't be able to win that argument.

 

With Finley likely franchised - it seems unlikely a long-term deal will be done before the start of free agency in early March - the Packers will have about $2 million in cap money to sign Wells and Bush, who are at the top of their wish list.

 

Of course, creating cap space won't be a problem.

 

General manager Ted Thompson is not sentimental and he's going to have to knock down WR Donald Driver's $5 million cap number. He may decide to cut him no matter what, but if he doesn't, he'll force Driver to take a major pay cut.

He can also clear $5.7 million by parting ways with LT Chad Clifton. That seems a likelihood after Marshall Newhouse developed into a competent starter over the course of replacing the injured Clifton last year.

 

Another possibility is gaining $4 million in room if S Nick Collins is forced to retire because of a neck injury. That, however, is cap room Thompson truly doesn't want.

In addition, he could make the bold decision not to pay CB Charles Woodson a $4 million roster bonus due in April, thereby making him a free agent and clearing $11.5 million in cap room. But if he sticks with Woodson, he can still restructure the $4 million bonus so it spreads out over the final three years of his deal, thereby saving him about $2.6 million in cap space.

At a minimum, those three moves would create $10 million and at the most as much as $13 million in cap room, easily enough to keep Finley, Wells and Bush.

 

Among the things Thompson will probably try to get done this season are re-signing WR Greg Jennings, whose deal expires after 2012, extending QB Aaron Rodgers' deal beyond 2014, and signing LB Clay Matthews, who has outplayed his rookie contract, to a lucrative extension beyond 2013.

The NFL has created a system where teams can borrow up to $6.5 million in salary cap money from future years to apply to the current year, so there's that too. It wouldn't seem to fit Thompson's way of doing business, but it is an option.

In the next blog, I will list the top 51 in cap dollars and the "dead" money being charged against the '12 cap.

 

I got this from Tom Silverstein's article.

Edited February 3, 2012 by piratesownninjas