tazinib1 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 :pantstight: I just can't give up on my boy. Updating previous items, the Panthers could save $3.4 million in 2013 salary cap space by releasing DeAngelo Williams as a "post-June 1" cut.The drawback is tying up nearly $6 million in "dead money," or unusable salary cap space for 2014. The Panthers are going to be in cap jail next offseason, too. Williams now looks like a sure bet to be released with the post-June 1 designation, however, simply because Carolina's first priority is to get under the 2013 salary cap. They're currently $14 million over it. Feb 14 - 9:49 AM Source: ESPN.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 But, will the change in personnel also come with a change in offensive philosophy, or will they just find someone else to step in to divide up the carries so that no single RB on the team is actually productive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I'd still love to see DeAngelo Williams in Indy. I think he'd be the perfect fit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 But, will the change in personnel also come with a change in offensive philosophy, or will they just find someone else to step in to divide up the carries so that no single RB on the team is actually productive? Good question. I read a rumor on this saying a possible landing spot for DWill would be DEN with former HC John Fox. That would suck for anybody hoping that Moreno would have value next year. (I'm considering him as a possible keeper.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted February 14, 2013 Author Share Posted February 14, 2013 But, will the change in personnel also come with a change in offensive philosophy, or will they just find someone else to step in to divide up the carries so that no single RB on the team is actually productive? Doesn't matter. Cam Newton is widely viewed as the RB#1 Stew is in a no win situation in Carolina. I actually was hoping HE would be released, but with D-Will on the chopping block, at least he could have SOME sort of value in 2013 (low end RB#2) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningMud Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 D-Will to Denver...Thanks for the help McGahee but we are going to replace you with a younger, better version... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted February 14, 2013 Author Share Posted February 14, 2013 D-Will to Denver...Thanks for the help McGahee but we are going to replace you with a younger, better version... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningMud Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Call me a dreamer but I actually think Williams has got a lot of talent that just hasnt been used that well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted February 14, 2013 Author Share Posted February 14, 2013 Call me a dreamer but I actually think Williams has got a lot of talent that just hasnt been used that well! and he turns 30 in April. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Pimp Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 and he turns 30 in April. Yeah but with 8 touches a game I'm sure he's still got a few years left potentially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningMud Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 and he turns 30 in April. He has been used like a backup though. Much less miles on him then McGahee and he is better as a receiver out of the backfield then McGahee too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted February 14, 2013 Author Share Posted February 14, 2013 Yeah but with 8 touches a game I'm sure he's still got a few years left potentially. He has been used like a backup though. Much less miles on him then McGahee and he is better as a receiver out of the backfield then McGahee too. He has been used like a backup though. Much less miles on him then McGahee and he is better as a receiver out of the backfield then McGahee too. Have fun...he's been productive since when? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Pimp Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Have fun...he's been productive since when? I'm not saying I want him or would go after him, I'm simply pointing out that he doesn't have a lot of mileage on him for a 30 year old. He is averaging 188 touches per year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted February 14, 2013 Author Share Posted February 14, 2013 I'm not saying I want him or would go after him, I'm simply pointing out that he doesn't have a lot of mileage on him for a 30 year old. He is averaging 188 touches per year. As silly as it sounds, the Pats would probably offer him a 1yr deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningMud Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 As silly as it sounds, the Pats would probably offer him a 1yr deal That wouldn't make much sense for them. I think they have a very good tandem in Ridley and Vereen. I wouldn't be suprised if Woodhead walks and they just draft a young guy late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Pimp Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 That wouldn't make much sense for them. I think they have a very good tandem in Ridley and Vereen. I wouldn't be suprised if Woodhead walks and they just draft a young guy late. They also have Bolden. They have three young guys with different skill sets already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted February 15, 2013 Author Share Posted February 15, 2013 That wouldn't make much sense for them. I think they have a very good tandem in Ridley and Vereen. I wouldn't be suprised if Woodhead walks and they just draft a young guy late. They also have Bolden. They have three young guys with different skill sets already. Packers are looking...oh wait...they have already cemented themselves with SJAX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Packers are looking...oh wait...they have already cemented themselves with SJAX ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted February 15, 2013 Author Share Posted February 15, 2013 ? I have no link buddy but it's not rocket science to see the fit in GB with SJAX. I'm speculating.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I have no link buddy but it's not rocket science to see the fit in GB with SJAX. I'm speculating.... Then it isn't cemented, its just a speculation by some dude on a fantasy forum I think the twitter sphere has changed you. Rumor and speculatio do not equal concrete fact. As for DWill he may be 30 but hasn't been used up like others RBs who carried the load. As far as DEN and him replacing somebody, you have to wonder who the primary guy is anyway. Is it still McGahee or is it Moreno now? Looking at the keeper ranking on the Huddle I'm led to believe Moreno is the primary ball carrier (or bigger split in RBBC). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted February 16, 2013 Author Share Posted February 16, 2013 Then it isn't cemented, its just a speculation by some dude on a fantasy forum I think the twitter sphere has changed you. Rumor and speculatio do not equal concrete fact. As for DWill he may be 30 but hasn't been used up like others RBs who carried the load. As far as DEN and him replacing somebody, you have to wonder who the primary guy is anyway. Is it still McGahee or is it Moreno now? Looking at the keeper ranking on the Huddle I'm led to believe Moreno is the primary ball carrier (or bigger split in RBBC). I want what you are smoking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efi4eye Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 (edited) D Will has been a quality back, not sure why you can't see that Taz. Oh wait... nevermind, it's obvious why you can't see that Edited February 17, 2013 by efi4eye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBoog Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 D Will has been a quality back, not sure why you can't see that Taz. Oh wait... nevermind, it's obvious why you can't see that Enlighten me oh Grandeous of the ever obvious! Why is this so clear to you and your omnipresent vision? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted February 17, 2013 Author Share Posted February 17, 2013 Then it isn't cemented, its just a speculation by some dude on a fantasy forum I think the twitter sphere has changed you. Rumor and speculatio do not equal concrete fact. As for DWill he may be 30 but hasn't been used up like others RBs who carried the load. As far as DEN and him replacing somebody, you have to wonder who the primary guy is anyway. Is it still McGahee or is it Moreno now? Looking at the keeper ranking on the Huddle I'm led to believe Moreno is the primary ball carrier (or bigger split in RBBC). This is just pure speculation on my part, but I think Moreno flashed what we have all been waiting for during the playoffs. That will drive his price up, but IMO, he's gonna play second fiddle to McGahee. He still can't block and is horrid in the passing game..let alone fumblitits. I'll let someone else burn a mid pick on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skrappy1 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 :pantstight: I just can't give up on my boy. Have fun...he's been productive since when? Williams hasn't been very productive since the 2009 season...which of course happens to be the exact same season during which Stewart was last productive. See any hypocrisy here? Mocking people for still believing in Williams while at the same time insinuating that you are still excited about Stewart? and he turns 30 in April. Yes, Williams will be 30 in April, and McGahee will be 32 in October. Again, see any contradiction or hypocrisy to your arguments? This is just pure speculation on my part, but I think Moreno flashed what we have all been waiting for during the playoffs. That will drive his price up, but IMO, he's gonna play second fiddle to McGahee. He still can't block and is horrid in the passing game..let alone fumblitits. I'll let someone else burn a mid pick on him. Actually, Moreno is a very solid back in the passing game, not even remotely "horrid." And one of the main reasons that Moreno was given the starting gig over Ball, et al once McGahee went down last season was BECAUSE he could block and protect Peyton, while the others could not. Oh yeah, and he fumbled ONCE last season. I'm sorry, Taz, but your blind love for Stewart is leading you to just talking out of your ass on this one, with absolutely no support in fact for your arguments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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