keggerz Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I had hoped to get this published earlier but better late than never http://www.thehuddle.com/2013/articles/sg-0219-joe-flacco-is-elite-by-association.php I was digging around in some stats when I noticed some stuff with Brady that caught my eye...that led to further research which led to this article...enjoy, and as always, if you have any comments, questions or criticism fire away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 It is my sincerest hope for the Ravens, that they enter into a very long term deal with Flacco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menudo Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 It is my sincerest hope for the Ravens, that they enter into a very long term deal with Flacco. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trots Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Good article. He may be elite, but he still isn't the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 See, he should be a part of the conversation and those who dismissed his preseason statements should eat a lil crow. And let's face it, he's head and shoulders above regular season wonder Matt Ryan, who lacks 8 more playoff victories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted February 21, 2013 Author Share Posted February 21, 2013 +1 Perception is a funny thing. Good article. He may be elite, but he still isn't the best Thanks...and he doesn't have to be...but I sure would want my QB thinking he was. See, he should be a part of the conversation and those who dismissed his preseason statements should eat a lil crow. And let's face it, he's head and shoulders above regular season wonder Matt Ryan, who lacks 8 more playoff victories. I'm guessing you liked the very end of the article. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bier Meister Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 have you taken a peak at ryan's stats. also, iirc, haven't all of the teams atl has faced in the playoffs gone on to represent the NFC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bier Meister Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 i have already spoken to his exemplary post season.... but my comment that you quoted had more to do with his/their earlier success, when his defense was still very potent and he has not lacked talent at rb since he came in. he started out looking great this year....fizzled a bit and then had a couple of up-ticks in the 2nd half of the season. i am currently looking at 24 passing categories...he is top 10 in 4: yds/pass comp (10th); pass int % (5th); game winning drives (5th); and comebacks (3rd)... he had 22 td's with 10 ints. he is a fine qb.. still not elite. Yes, and I alluded to such in one of my earliest posts. Absolutely. Look, I'm just not swooned with regular season statistics. This is a postseason game and what you do there is all that matters. How someone can argue that Flacco is only as good as Matt Ryan when he has 8 more playoff victories in the same career span dumb. Not a fan of the guy personally, but there's no doubt Roeth knows how to win and yea another ring to get him to 3? Well, chives he's good and yes 3 rings in a career is elite. So what if he doesn't break passing records. Dan Marino anyone? until this year, bal has been a run first type of team. they started the year much more aggressive than years past (was pretty exciting imo), then got pretty bland with their play-calling. it's a team sport... i don't blame him for the team not getting to the super bowl in 11 (controversial no td and missed chip shot away), or give him all the credit for the win this year, in the same way I don't hold manning and ryan solely responsible for all of their losses. imo: rodgers brees manning brady ---------- ryan roeth flacco ----------- eli romo rivers not including the young guys yet (a lot of potential... almost all learning very quickly). common theme with most qb's (teams) from above is the help they have received from a strong running game and defense. rodgers and brees are on the top of my current list because they carried their teams to championships. again, flacco is a very good qb, but not elite yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 (edited) Maybe this is where FF production and NFL production just don't quite match up. It's doubtful that Flacco will be anyone's starting QB in the majority of FF leagues in the upcoming year. Except of course for those visionaries who honestly believe that he is the next Tom Brady. I'm not a believer. Hyundai makes a really nice luxury car now called the Equus. It is a beautiful vehicle. Looks a lot like a Lexus. But at the end of the day, you're still driving a Hyundai. I'll be drafting a Lexus next season. Edited February 21, 2013 by Savage Beatings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bier Meister Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 SB, it's not just a statfest for me, it has to do with the ability to put the team on your back and win vs handing it off to edge, a. smith, dillon, parker, bettis, turner (yes turner...check his stats with atl), lt, rice. i think in most cases the defenses have had a more profound effect on those championships.... look at those early nep years early pitt years payton could only win one once his d stiffened in the playoffs nyg gb and nos did not have much running game or d (but both d's were very opportunistic) imo, flacco has mostly benefited from the rb/d combo the previous years. he still got that strong rb this year, but their d declined. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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