Pryor now that McCown and Coleman are back.

[Tripleshot]

So what's everyone's take on Prior's fantasy production with McCown and Coleman back or coming back in Coleman's case. Prior didn't take off until McCown was out as McCown tends to target Barnidge (and wasn't Coleman's 2 TD game before McCown got hurt?). The Browns are mst always playing catchup and McCown throws for a lot of yards but is there enough to go around for everyone or will Barnidge or Coleman be taking the targets Prior's been getting?

[Def.]

So what's everyone's take on Prior's fantasy production with McCown and Coleman back or coming back in Coleman's case. Prior didn't take off until McCown was out as McCown tends to target Barnidge (and wasn't Coleman's 2 TD game before McCown got hurt?). The Browns are mst always playing catchup and McCown throws for a lot of yards but is there enough to go around for everyone or will Barnidge or Coleman be taking the targets Prior's been getting?

 

Hmm...seen in several spots that its still unknown between McCown and Kessler (once cleared). Honestly don't see why they wouldn't play the rookie at this point. McCown did not look good against a very poor Jets secondary.

[kdko]

I think this bolsters their offense by adding another big WR threat that they didn't have before, and they'll all benefit from it. Both of them will be getting a lot of targets still, and Crowell and Duke should produce better. Might be (lol) a bit presumptuous, but I'm confident in Browns from a fantasy standpoint for the ROS. Maybe they can make a move before the deadline too. They have a good amount of playmakers and McCown will be throwing often playing from behind as you already mentioned.

[stevegrab]

Pryor took off when Kessler had to start and they wanted to protect him. He was used to run and catch, as a QB (mostly running), and was the focal point. I would think his value drops some now with a more able QB and Coleman hopefully returning.

 

But honestly I have trouble trusting any CLE player, and I have Crowell and will be starting him the rest of the year, especially with Coleman out, just don't have other options.

 

He was targeted 13 times vs Jets, matching his high from wk3 @MIA and wk6 @TEN. Don't recall if Coleman was not active any of those games. So it appears the switch to McCown hasn't hurt a lot, but Coleman's return could.

[stevegrab]

 

Hmm...seen in several spots that its still unknown between McCown and Kessler (once cleared). Honestly don't see why they wouldn't play the rookie at this point. McCown did not look good against a very poor Jets secondary.

 

I don't think Kessler is as good as McCown and they didn't plan to throw him to the wolves this year, don't forget RG3 was going to be the starter wtih McCown as backup, Kessler clipboard holder. I think McCown gets the start even if Kessler can play.

 

Kessler was cleared to practice yesterday.

[loaf]

much too small of a sample size to know.

Coleman only played the first two weeks where he had 13 targets resulting in 7 catches and 2 TDs

in those two games, Pryor had 17 targets resulting in 6 catches for no TDs

[tdybaz]

I think rotoworld said there's a feeling Kessler will start if he's healthy over Josh McCown, so take that as you will for the time being. I also have both Crowell and Coleman, so I'm anxious to see how they do with Coleman back.

[Rekroot]

I read that too from the Cleveland beat writer who believes Kessler will start. I having trouble buying that when their team is 0-8. Cowboys top cornerback is out. Coleman's back, and McCown has a better chance of stretching the field as opposed to Kessler's typical short passing, game high percentage throws. The line is Dallas by seven. Smells a little like an upset.

[Def.]

Your no longer throwing Kessler to the wolves at this point since there are no longer any expectations of a winning season (or even an average one for that matter). I honestly don't see why you would sit your rookie and prevent him from getting valuable playing time to start a 37 year old journeyman. May as well get Kessler out there and see how he develops.

[Rekroot]

Your no longer throwing Kessler to the wolves at this point since there are no longer any expectations of a winning season (or even an average one for that matter). I honestly don't see why you would sit your rookie and prevent him from getting valuable playing time to start a 37 year old journeyman. May as well get Kessler out there and see how he develops.

[Rekroot]

 

Your no longer throwing Kessler to the wolves at this point since there are no longer any expectations of a winning season (or even an average one for that matter). I honestly don't see why you would sit your rookie and prevent him from getting valuable playing time to start a 37 year old journeyman. May as well get Kessler out there and see how he develops.

I would agree with you but we are talking about the Browns. Developing a quarterback is not something I would associate with the Browns. Changing quarterbacks is more like it.

[stevegrab]

I would agree with you but we are talking about the Browns. Developing a quarterback is not something I would associate with the Browns. Changing quarterbacks is more like it.

 

You do realize the Browns have changed coach and front office since last year, and several times over the past 15 years. So how do you associate much of anything other than a pattern of losing teams with them.

 

By all accounts Hue Jackson is good at developing QBs, that is a big part of why he was hired.

[Rekroot]

Tim Couch is their only QB over the past 15 seasons who has played an entire season. They have changed qb's twenty seven times in that same span. How many first round qb's have they gone thru? Jimmy Haslam is really who is responsible. Hue Jackson is an incredible coach. He is great at developing RB's like he did in Cincinnati as well as Oakland. He also turned Cincinnati into a juggernaut offensively, but mainly because of their ground game.

[Bowman]

Many of those 27 QBs were put in because the prior QB was injured. Not sure that it is fair to say they "changed" QBs, like it was optional every time.

 

That all being said, it's still ridiculous.

Edited November 3, 2016 by Bowman

[Rekroot]

Many of those 27 QBs were put in because the prior QB was injured. Not sure that it is fair to say they "changed" QBs, like it was optional every time.

 

 

That all being said, it's still ridiculous.

You're absolutely right. The numbers are somewhat deceiving. As far as the Browns as a team my wife's family are from the Cleveland area and they all have lifetime membership card which means they are hopelessly desperate. I don't care much for sleeping on the couch so I'm a fan as well. My favorite Browns qb was Derek Anderson. Braylon Edwards was my favorite wr. The Ghost from Wazoo was my favorite running back. I think most likely McCown starts this week and they get their first win with Coleman stealing the show, Collins slowing down Ezekiel, Coleman eating their secondary for lunch. I don't see the Browns having any chance of winning with Kessler. Although Kessler is the real deal and is their QB for the future. By the way the Broncos picked up Terrell Watson who was hand picked by Hue Jackson. I'll be playing him come playoff time. He's a Stud!

[stevegrab]

You're absolutely right. The numbers are somewhat deceiving. As far as the Browns as a team my wife's family are from the Cleveland area and they all have lifetime membership card which means they are hopelessly desperate. I don't care much for sleeping on the couch so I'm a fan as well. My favorite Browns qb was Derek Anderson. Braylon Edwards was my favorite wr. The Ghost from Wazoo was my favorite running back. I think most likely McCown starts this week and they get their first win with Coleman stealing the show, Collins slowing down Ezekiel, Coleman eating their secondary for lunch. I don't see the Browns having any chance of winning with Kessler. Although Kessler is the real deal and is their QB for the future. By the way the Broncos picked up Terrell Watson who was hand picked by Hue Jackson. I'll be playing him come playoff time. He's a Stud!

 

Wow that is some bold talk, how much did you bet on the Browns?

 

I'm surprised DMD has it a close 27-24 win for the Cowboys, I don't see it.

[Rekroot]

I didn't bet on them. Just from the history between the teams and McCowns ability to play big in big games as well as when the spread feels one sided where everyone takes the Cowboys is usually when Vegas, the rake, cashes in. This has a lot of factors to make it look one way where the pendulum could swing the other way. Reminds me of the song Casino Queen by Wilco. Casino Queen your tables are so green.

[Rekroot]

I've hear 6.5, 7, and 7.5 spread. O/U 48.5 The O/U seems low. 52 seems more like it. This is all based on McCown starting though otherwise I see Cowboys being a ten point favorite with O/U being 44. If McCown starts Browns win 31 to 27.

[DMD]

 

Wow that is some bold talk, how much did you bet on the Browns?

 

I'm surprised DMD has it a close 27-24 win for the Cowboys, I don't see it.

 

The reason for that is because DAL comes off a huge home win in OT. Teams usually play flat the next week and CLE is not the sort of team that anyone gets greatly motivated to play. Adding up all the numbers, sure - DAL should win this handily. This is the formula for a trap game. I think DAL pulls it out, but it is a classic setup for a head-scratching closer-than-expected game.

[boltnlava]

 

I miss the dog.

[DMD]

I miss the dog.

 

Brother, I do too.

 

He sat at my feet while I did The Huddle for 14 years. When his hips finally just could not be helped anymore, it was one of the saddest days of my life. I had the vet come to my house and we let him go here in my office. Going to get another, just takes some time.

 

Man. Been 18 months ago and I still call for him.

 

Elway

[boltnlava]

 

Brother, I do too.

 

He sat at my feet while I did The Huddle for 14 years. When his hips finally just could not be helped anymore, it was one of the saddest days of my life. I had the vet come to my house and we let him go here in my office. Going to get another, just takes some time.

 

Man. Been 18 months ago and I still call for him.

 

Elway

I had no idea. Sorry for your loss.

 

 

lift one for Elway!

 

Avatar pic is awesome. Thanx!

Edited November 3, 2016 by boltnlava

[Rekroot]

 

The reason for that is because DAL comes off a huge home win in OT. Teams usually play flat the next week and CLE is not the sort of team that anyone gets greatly motivated to play. Adding up all the numbers, sure - DAL should win this handily. This is the formula for a trap game. I think DAL pulls it out, but it is a classic setup for a head-scratching closer-than-expected game.

Other than week 5 at home against Brady, McCown has started both home games in his only two starts. Both were decided by less than 5 points. I can't actually believe I'm trying to justify the Browns beating Dallas. Like you said this is the formula for a trap game.

[loaf]

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/11/how_corey_colemans_return_vs_c.html?ath=5711a6b7d9455e54ddfd2daaec89e7df#cmpid=nsltr_morestry1headline_single

 

"I can't wait,'' Pryor said of Coleman's return. "It's going to help out a lot. A very lot. And maybe those safeties will stop playing over top of me and I can get a little one-on-one action.''

Last week against the Jets, Pryor erupted with six catches for 101 yards against Darrelle Revis in the first half, but didn't have a reception in the second half.

Teams have been able to focus on Pryor with no other bona fide deep threat on the field. Still, he's 14th in the NFL with 41 receptions, and leads the Browns with 532 yards and three TDs.

[Def.]

 

Cody Kessler will start Week 9 against the Cowboys.

 

Coach Hue Jackson opted for Kessler over veteran Josh McCown because he wants to "continue to get a look" at the rookie quarterback. It's a downgrade for the Browns' passing game, but it's not like Kessler has been horrible when out there. Terrelle Pryor is still a WR2, with Corey Coleman a WR3.

 

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