Big John Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Kickoff formations have now greatly changed to be similar to the XFL rule the last couple years. Kicks still fron the 35 yard line, but only the kicker is allowed there - the rest of the kicking team must line up on the opponents 40 yard line. The receiving team may have 1 or 2 returners behind their own 35byard line - the rest of the return team must line up on their own 35 yard line. No one except the kicker and the 1-2 returners may move until the ball reaches the returner or hits the ground. The kick balled must hit a specified receiving zone or the ball will be placed on a specified yard line depending on where it landed, but the penalty is not nearly as severe as enacted in the XFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted March 26 Author Share Posted March 26 Ironically with the XFL/USFL merger to the new UFL, they dropped the XFL kickoff rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilwoman Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 How does that work for an onside kick????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Just get rid of kickoffs and have some way to a special play after a score an onside kick attempt. Maybe just roll some dice or something. 3 minutes ago, devilwoman said: How does that work for an onside kick????? Yep I wonder the same thing, since that was one of the objections to entirely eliminating the kickoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted March 26 Author Share Posted March 26 7 minutes ago, devilwoman said: How does that work for an onside kick????? They rejected a 4th and 20 option for it. The onsides rarely worked with the added-on restrictions so i think they are just doing away with it at least for this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilwoman Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 (edited) Well, what a bunch of horse manure that is..... So if you just scored and are down by 1 point with 35 sec to go...I guess you just throw in the towel and go to the locker room. Edited March 26 by devilwoman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 dw - are you shaking your fist at the clouds? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilwoman Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 (edited) yeah a little...I love watching onside kicks...its exciting...and I'd guess the players love being the GUY that gets the ball. It adds suspense to the game. Are you not a fan of the onside kick??? Honestly it has to be the ONLY play where a guy doesn't get hurt...I can't remember if ever a guy was injured on an onside kick play...... Edited March 26 by devilwoman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 hour ago, devilwoman said: Honestly it has to be the ONLY play where a guy doesn't get hurt...I can't remember if ever a guy was injured on an onside kick play...... John is searching. To be continued.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilwoman Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 15 minutes ago, Shaft said: John is searching. To be continued.... I love this forum!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilwoman Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 (edited) So here are the new rules for kickoffs... https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2024/03/26/nfl-kickoff-rule-change-approved-owners-meetings/73104181007/ Still not clear on onside kicks according to this article....will look further... OK.... here is another article...better actually and does include rules for an onside kick...4th quarter only, which leaves out the element of surprise...which I'm not in favor of...its the element of surprise that makes the game exciting...but whatever... https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-approves-radical-kickoff-rule-change-heres-what-to-know-143919818.html Edited March 26 by devilwoman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 hour ago, gilthorp said: dw - are you shaking your fist at the clouds? gil are you being a douchebag again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilwoman Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Hey, hey now. Stevie baby...I like gil... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted March 26 Author Share Posted March 26 For onside kicks, they need to be announced ahead of time, then the old formation can be used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 2 hours ago, stevegrab said: gil are you being a douchebag again? I am on your team here stevegrab. Shake your fist at the sky all you want bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 3 hours ago, devilwoman said: yeah a little...I love watching onside kicks...its exciting...and I'd guess the players love being the GUY that gets the ball. It adds suspense to the game. Are you not a fan of the onside kick??? Honestly it has to be the ONLY play where a guy doesn't get hurt...I can't remember if ever a guy was injured on an onside kick play...... I believe they have neutered it. Like they seem to be with quite a bit. WWENFL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilwoman Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 7 minutes ago, Big John said: For onside kicks, they need to be announced ahead of time, then the old formation can be used. Only in the 4th quarter though...cant do it any other time and you are correct, it has to be announced...WHERE IS THE SURPRISE IN THAT??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilwoman Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 4 minutes ago, gilthorp said: I believe they have neutered it. Like they seem to be with quite a bit. WWENFL Neutering for some is a good thing, but not for football....just saying.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted March 26 Author Share Posted March 26 1 minute ago, devilwoman said: Neutering for some is a good thing, but not for football....just saying.... Just a different kind of ball. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 If they want to make the game more safe, play all games on real grass. If they want to make the game more safe, get rid of Thursday games. If they want to make the game more safe, don't play it. It's a violent, physical game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 hour ago, devilwoman said: Only in the 4th quarter though...cant do it any other time and you are correct, it has to be announced...WHERE IS THE SURPRISE IN THAT??? Didn't Sean McVay run one in the first half of a big playoff game the year they won the SB? I looked but could not find that, I do see a case of the Lions doing this to the Rams in the first quarter in 2021. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Brown Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 I remember Sean Payton doing a surprise onsides during the SB. When did Steve switch from complaining about people complaining about NFL rules to complaining about NFL rules? 😛 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilwoman Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Onsides happen in college more...provides that edge of getting more possessions in close games with teams that are similar. Oregon has done it a few times...but mostly we execute fake punts near our own 20yd line. Talk about exciting and ballsey calls by the coach.... If it doesn't work of course people want the coach fired.... Fans are a weird bunch!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 hour ago, Bobby Brown said: I remember Sean Payton doing a surprise onsides during the SB. When did Steve switch from complaining about people complaining about NFL rules to complaining about NFL rules? 😛 Maybe that is what I'm thinking of. I've regularly complain about the need of sports leagues to change rules every year or two, often with lame reasoning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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