KordellStewartSucks4Life Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 with any hair test they can tell the last time he inhaled. they can go back and tell him when he first started puffin'. they will be able to find out if he was dirty at the time of the UA with a proper hair test That is not true. 13 years ago I got a job in a Casino. I smoked pot every day for years prior. I did not smoke any Josh Gordon for 30 days before my test. Someone told me that a hair test was not a good test for pot but it would nab someone who did cocaine or heroine for sure. He also told me of a Nexus product called Aloe Rid which is actually a hair stripper used by people with bad coloring jobs or hair discolored by chlorine (popular with the swimmers). He was reasonably confident with being off Josh Gordon for a month, a new haircut and a few washes with my magic shampoo that I would come back clean. I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gd74 Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 According to 950 AM The Fan, Shanahan released to the press that Henry passed a polygraph test and also had a hair follicle test performed that turned out negative. The hearing is supposed to be this Friday. No link - just heard it on the radio a couple of minutes ago. This is nothing more than a desperate attempt from a guilty man.... Im sure he also stated that he is not the father of the 9 kids he fathered and that is why he did not provide financial support for his kids..... I think he got this test from the same guy who gave Bonds and Giambi a test and said they were 100% natural.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 hair test, shmair test. anyone who doesn't think he's got diminishing skills and isn't already done, hasn't been paying very close attention Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MERLINS Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 From what limited knowledge I have, as stated above, hair samples are not conclusive for Josh Gordon. Believe it or not, the THC is trackable in urine for a longer period of time. Other drugs are the opposite. I could care less, really, what happens to him as I just traded Young away, but it sure seems like a feeble attempt to trick the Denver organization as well as the public into thinking that he is doing anything to prove his innocence but the nfl knows better than that. He will be suspended in my opinion sooner than later and Denver & S Young will do just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicCEO Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 ISMRC... Henry's test by the league didn't follow the procedure to the letter. Some kind of technicality about letting Henry have his own expert oversee the process. It sounds like a loophole that he is trying to exploit... but if it was a legal case, it might help him. Unfortunately it wasn't a legal case, and the courts said that the NFL is the sole arbitrator to enforce their own rules. So you have the league looking at it as "Do we be hard-asses about Travis following the rules, if we didn't follow our own rules." Before this move from Travis, I would have leaned toward him still being suspended. But, now you've got Travis's independent tests supposedly confirming that he is clean. I'd be surprised if the NFL ended up suspending him now just because of all the details. But, I've been wrong before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish247 Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Think of the can of worms they open if they consider unproven, outside evidence. If they considered evidence like that that said that a player was guilty, the Player's Union would crucify them, and rightly so. They simply can't afford to set that precedent, can they? I don't disagree. Just pointing out that there's a slim possibility that the league takes it into account and Goodell shows some leniency. Also, if the hair test and polygraph were decisive tests then I imagine the league and the NFLPA would've agreed to put them into the CBA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 ISMRC... Henry's test by the league didn't follow the procedure to the letter. Some kind of technicality about letting Henry have his own expert oversee the process. It sounds like a loophole that he is trying to exploit... but if it was a legal case, it might help him. Unfortunately it wasn't a legal case, and the courts said that the NFL is the sole arbitrator to enforce their own rules. So you have the league looking at it as "Do we be hard-asses about Travis following the rules, if we didn't follow our own rules." Before this move from Travis, I would have leaned toward him still being suspended. But, now you've got Travis's independent tests supposedly confirming that he is clean. I'd be surprised if the NFL ended up suspending him now just because of all the details. But, I've been wrong before. I disagree ... I think the league doesn't think to kindly of one of the players pursuing this matter in the legal system. Additionally as I understand it the point of contention is that Henry did not have a representative present when the B sample was tested. The only time the B sample is tested is when the A sample already failed the test. I think Henry will be suspended as Goodall will want to make a point about how un-kosher it is for players to seek help outside the NFL instead of working within the confines of the system. Henry is trying to open a loop hole and jump through it ... I don't believe Goodall is going to think to kindly of this approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 I disagree ... I think the league doesn't think to kindly of one of the players pursuing this matter in the legal system. Additionally as I understand it the point of contention is that Henry did not have a representative present when the B sample was tested. The only time the B sample is tested is when the A sample already failed the test. I think Henry will be suspended as Goodall will want to make a point about how un-kosher it is for players to seek help outside the NFL instead of working within the confines of the system. Henry is trying to open a loop hole and jump through it ... I don't believe Goodall is going to think to kindly of this approach. I don't either. All his lawyer is trying to do is delaying the inevitable in my opinion. Denver isn't going to the playoffs this year. He would be better served serving the suspension and coming back earlier next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 According to 950 AM The Fan, Shanahan released to the press that Henry passed a polygraph test and also had a hair follicle test performed that turned out negative. The hearing is supposed to be this Friday. No link - just heard it on the radio a couple of minutes ago. This matters because........ He sucks and won't start even on my RB-starved team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh B Tool Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 That is not true. 13 years ago I got a job in a Casino. I smoked pot every day for years prior. I did not smoke any Josh Gordon for 30 days before my test. Someone told me that a hair test was not a good test for pot but it would nab someone who did cocaine or heroine for sure. He also told me of a Nexus product called Aloe Rid which is actually a hair stripper used by people with bad coloring jobs or hair discolored by chlorine (popular with the swimmers). He was reasonably confident with being off Josh Gordon for a month, a new haircut and a few washes with my magic shampoo that I would come back clean. I did. they can make a hair test go back two weeks two months or twenty years, most casinos go back a month and I believe still have to inform you if they go back longer than that. shoot there is stuff that detoxes within 48 hours at a 98% rate for UA's. Which along with his attitude about having unprotected sex with gold digging flounders shows just how dumb this toolshed is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboysDiehard Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 (edited) Got this off wiki (so take it for what it's worth). The testing window for hair samples is up to 90 days. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_test#Hair_drug_testing Hippies are probably screwed if they don't cut their hair Edited November 13, 2007 by CowboysDiehard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Fan Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 ISMRC... Henry's test by the league didn't follow the procedure to the letter. Some kind of technicality about letting Henry have his own expert oversee the process. It sounds like a loophole that he is trying to exploit... but if it was a legal case, it might help him. Unfortunately it wasn't a legal case, and the courts said that the NFL is the sole arbitrator to enforce their own rules. So you have the league looking at it as "Do we be hard-asses about Travis following the rules, if we didn't follow our own rules." Before this move from Travis, I would have leaned toward him still being suspended. But, now you've got Travis's independent tests supposedly confirming that he is clean. I'd be surprised if the NFL ended up suspending him now just because of all the details. But, I've been wrong before. The CBA says the player is allowed to have a representative present duing the testing as long as that representative is not a representative of another testing company or facility. Henry's representative was from another testing lab and he was denied access to the testing as outlined in the CBA. So now Henry is claiming he was not allowed to have a representative there. Pretty slick planning to send a guy you know won't be allowed in so that you create a loophole or a doubt when you know you're guilty if you ask me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msaint Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Henry is like a f'n vampire. Just nail a wooden stake through his heart and be done with it Sincerely, Selvin Young owner #21,283 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gdawg Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Don't know if this has been posted yet: FANBALL 11/14/07 10:30 AM THE NEWS The Broncos invited four running backs in for tryouts on Tuesday, the Denver Post reports. Wali Lundy, Steven Jackson, Marquis Weeks, and Ray Perkins all worked out for the club. Our View The Broncos didn't sign anyone yet, but this move may mean the club believes Travis Henry will lose his appeal and be suspended in the next few weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splotchman Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Don't know if this has been posted yet: FANBALL 11/14/07 10:30 AM THE NEWS The Broncos invited four running backs in for tryouts on Tuesday, the Denver Post reports. Wali Lundy, Steven Jackson, Marquis Weeks, and Ray Perkins all worked out for the club. Our View The Broncos didn't sign anyone yet, but this move may mean the club believes Travis Henry will lose his appeal and be suspended in the next few weeks. Sincerely, Selvin Young Fan Club President Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonKnight Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 they can make a hair test go back two weeks two months or twenty years, most casinos go back a month and I believe still have to inform you if they go back longer than that. shoot there is stuff that detoxes within 48 hours at a 98% rate for UA's. Which along with his attitude about having unprotected sex with gold digging flounders shows just how dumb this toolshed is. How in the world could a hair folicle test go back 20 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msaint Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 (edited) That is not true. 13 years ago I got a job in a Casino. I smoked pot every day for years prior. KordellStewartSucks4Life.... http://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/Stoners.jpg Edited November 14, 2007 by msaint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Trick Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Britney Spears shaved her HEAD(S) for a reason people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 How in the world could a hair folicle test go back 20 years? I don't know about 20 years, but THC can "hang around" in hair follicles for several years. I'm assuming it's because that fat is never metabolized and the THC is so hydrophobic that it leeches out on its own extremely slowly. Unless you go bald, you don't lose the follicles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KordellStewartSucks4Life Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 KordellStewartSucks4Life.... http://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/Stoners.jpg Thats pretty funny. I cleaned up 10 years ago but put an Ozzy shirt on that guy and it's pretty close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomfin2000 Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Don't know if this has been posted yet: FANBALL 11/14/07 10:30 AM THE NEWS The Broncos invited four running backs in for tryouts on Tuesday, the Denver Post reports. Wali Lundy, Steven Jackson, Marquis Weeks, and Ray Perkins all worked out for the club. Our View The Broncos didn't sign anyone yet, but this move may mean the club believes Travis Henry will lose his appeal and be suspended in the next few weeks. Man, this is great news for SJax owners, but you've got to think that Selvin Young's value will take a hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BumpNRun Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 why is shanahan always involved with some polygraph test? Cause he's a Rat....now just get done with Henry...Let Selvin run, run Selvin run....And to think Im a Henry owner....Im gonna get Ricky off the WW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BumpNRun Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 Britney Spears shaved her HEAD(S) for a reason people Right on...at least someones got the idea......+1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackshi17 Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 That is not true. 13 years ago I got a job in a Casino. I smoked pot every day for years prior. I did not smoke any Josh Gordon for 30 days before my test. Someone told me that a hair test was not a good test for pot but it would nab someone who did cocaine or heroine for sure. He also told me of a Nexus product called Aloe Rid which is actually a hair stripper used by people with bad coloring jobs or hair discolored by chlorine (popular with the swimmers). He was reasonably confident with being off Josh Gordon for a month, a new haircut and a few washes with my magic shampoo that I would come back clean. I did. Your fired......hiring under false....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazysight Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 (edited) Britney Spears shaved her HEAD(S) for a reason people She's every bit as smart as Travis Henry too. They belong in a trailer park together. Edited November 15, 2007 by Crazysight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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