tazinib1 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Wow...this one looks ugly. Thank god I don't own him in any dynasties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTed46 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 I love drafting criminals 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEC=UGA Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Nothing to see... That's how we roll in the dirty south. Good thing he didn't pull this taco in the ATL, he'd be cold shipped back home to his momma's house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XFlash Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Not sure if that will affect him playing week 13 or not. But Wimbley, Kamerion OAK LB is looking like a decent play if McClain is limited this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coordi88 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 The contracts these rookies are getting just baffles me it should be pretty easy to see a character like this shouldn't get 40 million dollars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 When I was doing my Game Breakdowns all that was available at the time was that he was being investigated by the Decatur Police Dept....said that makes him a risky play this week. Not sure if that will affect him playing week 13 or not. But Wimbley, Kamerion OAK LB is looking like a decent play if McClain is limited this week. Play or not McClain won't have an impact on Wimbley, who by the way has been playing like a beast of late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 I'm curious to see how hard they drop the hammer on him. Suh gets 2 games for being dirty on the field. McClain should get way more for being a thug in the streets. Hopefully he's done for the year. What a jackass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Well at least it didn't happen at like 2AM inside a crowded bar or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub! Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Classless. Wish we knew the full story. This should be punished harshly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddahj Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 That's some crazy sh!t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazysight Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 I'm curious to see how hard they drop the hammer on him. Suh gets 2 games for being dirty on the field. McClain should get way more for being a thug in the streets. Hopefully he's done for the year. What a jackass. Jackass is the understatement of the year. Check out the picture of this ignorant POS smiling for the camera as police take him away: http://blog.sfgate.com/raiders/2011/12/01/...ed-in-shooting/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditkaless Wonders Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 You can't have a memorable negative visual in Goodell's NFL. This is a negative memorable visual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby's Hubby Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 (edited) They did not recover the gun. I guess he pussed out and threw it away from the scene. If you are so tough and gonna hold a gun to someone's head while they beg for mercy, then you should be tough enough to keep your own pistol. Don't pull it out unless you are ready to use it and if you pull it you shouldn't have to ditch it. You wanna act tough then be a man. Edited December 2, 2011 by Scooby's Hubby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditkaless Wonders Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Jackass is the understatement of the year. Check out the picture of this ignorant POS smiling for the camera as police take him away: http://blog.sfgate.com/raiders/2011/12/01/...ed-in-shooting/ I think it is nice that the Decatur police have an affirmative action program. Look at the pride in that little dwarf on the left as he escorts Smilin Rolo to the squad car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 (edited) Honestly, I lay much of this at the feet of the college coaches. The NFL doesn't owe these players anything more than the huge paychecks they give them. Certainly it's in their best interest to keep them on the right side of the law, but that's more self-serving than anything else. And, it's a business, so whatever. There's a purity in the pro game in so much as nobody pretends it's anything other than it is. Not so true in college. We're sold a wholesomeness and the players buoy a billion dollar industry for free room, board, and an education. It's just that they sort of get short-changed on the last part. And I'm not just talking about a degree, but an education. While no insider, the results seem to point to a lack of regard on the part of the programs to really work towards teaching these kids about more than the schemes they need to know to execute the game plan. It's not really in the coach's best interest to make sure guys who are productive college players but not good enough to make the pros worry at least as much about their school work as helping the team. The coach is trying to get paid, and he needs to keep these guys' eye on the prize. Winning games. It's not in the coach's best interest to punish guys for minor transgressions, not if it costs them game time. So rather than teaching them right from wrong, they teach them that, as long as they're an asset to the football team, different rules apply. Not to mention the fact that the right amount of psychotic aggression is likely important to the success of a linebacker, so I doubt they want to totally correct that sort of behavior so much as try to find the balance. Sort of like training a pit bull to attack and hoping that it only attacks what and when you want it to. And, as long as they sell to us that the kids are getting a free education, then they are obliged to do more than just point to the classroom and say, "There it is in case you want to learn something". They need to educate them, on life skills if nothing else. We hear far too much about these iconic coaches and how they mold these guys into men. Do they just mold the ones who already have their chight together and want to be molded? Seems sort of like a cop-out. In fact, the NCAA almost does the opposite. Every adult is running around, grabbing as much money as they can. And when a coach gets popped for cheating, he just shows up somewhere else and gets paid. Not only do we not teach these kids right from wrong, we basically expect them to be the first line of defense to keep the program clean. The sleazeballs offering the cash don't get punished. The coaches really don't. So, what motivation to they have to not push their luck with this whole mess? Edited December 2, 2011 by detlef Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTed46 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 You guys are over reacting, he didnt bail on a cab or anything serious like that. Big deal he shot a gun next to someones ear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Jackass is the understatement of the year. Check out the picture of this ignorant POS smiling for the camera as police take him away: http://blog.sfgate.com/raiders/2011/12/01/...ed-in-shooting/ wow. What a moron. Perfect fit for the Raiduhs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Honestly, I lay much of this at the feet of the college coaches. The NFL doesn't owe these players anything more than the huge paychecks they give them. Certainly it's in their best interest to keep them on the right side of the law, but that's more self-serving than anything else. And, it's a business, so whatever. There's a purity in the pro game in so much as nobody pretends it's anything other than it is. Not so true in college. We're sold a wholesomeness and the players buoy a billion dollar industry for free room, board, and an education. It's just that they sort of get short-changed on the last part. And I'm not just talking about a degree, but an education. While no insider, the results seem to point to a lack of regard on the part of the programs to really work towards teaching these kids about more than the schemes they need to know to execute the game plan. It's not really in the coach's best interest to make sure guys who are productive college players but not good enough to make the pros worry at least as much about their school work as helping the team. The coach is trying to get paid, and he needs to keep these guys' eye on the prize. Winning games. It's not in the coach's best interest to punish guys for minor transgressions, not if it costs them game time. So rather than teaching them right from wrong, they teach them that, as long as they're an asset to the football team, different rules apply. Not to mention the fact that the right amount of psychotic aggression is likely important to the success of a linebacker, so I doubt they want to totally correct that sort of behavior so much as try to find the balance. Sort of like training a pit bull to attack and hoping that it only attacks what and when you want it to. And, as long as they sell to us that the kids are getting a free education, then they are obliged to do more than just point to the classroom and say, "There it is in case you want to learn something". They need to educate them, on life skills if nothing else. We hear far too much about these iconic coaches and how they mold these guys into men. Do they just mold the ones who already have their chight together and want to be molded? Seems sort of like a cop-out. In fact, the NCAA almost does the opposite. Every adult is running around, grabbing as much money as they can. And when a coach gets popped for cheating, he just shows up somewhere else and gets paid. Not only do we not teach these kids right from wrong, we basically expect them to be the first line of defense to keep the program clean. The sleazeballs offering the cash don't get punished. The coaches really don't. So, what motivation to they have to not push their luck with this whole mess? While I don't disagree with all of this, I would start with laying a lot of the blame on the players themselves, and the families and communities they come from. If they were not such big POS to start with, they wouldn't need the coaches in college (HS or pros) to teach them all this simple right from wrong stuff. Any decent human being should know that what McClain did was wrong. But for a small portion of society, guns violence, beating your woman, drugs, etc. are just a part of normal life. Until that changes we'll have many pro athletes that come from that part of society, who generally won't change (no matter how much any coach teaches them). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 While I don't disagree with all of this, I would start with laying a lot of the blame on the players themselves, and the families and communities they come from. If they were not such big POS to start with, they wouldn't need the coaches in college (HS or pros) to teach them all this simple right from wrong stuff. Any decent human being should know that what McClain did was wrong. But for a small portion of society, guns violence, beating your woman, drugs, etc. are just a part of normal life. Until that changes we'll have many pro athletes that come from that part of society, who generally won't change (no matter how much any coach teaches them). Obviously the first blame gets laid on the parents who may have abandoned them and so forth. But we approach this from a different perspective. The first time we did something stupid and wrong, we were punished (I'm assuming). In school, they didn't look the other way because a bunch of grown men weren't looking to ride our coattails. So, neither you or I were taught by those who were supposed to teach us right from wrong that it's only wrong if you're not an asset to the team. That underbelly just showed up in the Paterno investigation. Someone linked to a WSJ article that showed how he demanded his football players get off easy when they get in trouble or he'd stop fundraising. That's how you go from stupid things kids to thinking it's cool to do what McClain did. Because all of us are going to try and get away with things until we're shown we can't. You and I were shown we couldn't because we're not 6'4" 250 and run a 4.5 40. So we were taught actual life skills because we were of no use to anyone without them. These guys, it seems, are actually very valuable commodities regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Obviously the first blame gets laid on the parents who may have abandoned them and so forth. But we approach this from a different perspective. The first time we did something stupid and wrong, we were punished (I'm assuming). In school, they didn't look the other way because a bunch of grown men weren't looking to ride our coattails. So, neither you or I were taught by those who were supposed to teach us right from wrong that it's only wrong if you're not an asset to the team. That underbelly just showed up in the Paterno investigation. Someone linked to a WSJ article that showed how he demanded his football players get off easy when they get in trouble or he'd stop fundraising. That's how you go from stupid things kids to thinking it's cool to do what McClain did. Because all of us are going to try and get away with things until we're shown we can't. You and I were shown we couldn't because we're not 6'4" 250 and run a 4.5 40. So we were taught actual life skills because we were of no use to anyone without them. These guys, it seems, are actually very valuable commodities regardless. Agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazysight Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Just another in an ever-lengthening list of Raider first round busts, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTed46 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Just another in an ever-lengthening list of Raider CB's first round busts, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coordi88 Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Honestly, I lay much of this at the feet of the college coaches. The NFL doesn't owe these players anything more than the huge paychecks they give them. Certainly it's in their best interest to keep them on the right side of the law, but that's more self-serving than anything else. And, it's a business, so whatever. There's a purity in the pro game in so much as nobody pretends it's anything other than it is. Not so true in college. We're sold a wholesomeness and the players buoy a billion dollar industry for free room, board, and an education. It's just that they sort of get short-changed on the last part. And I'm not just talking about a degree, but an education. While no insider, the results seem to point to a lack of regard on the part of the programs to really work towards teaching these kids about more than the schemes they need to know to execute the game plan. It's not really in the coach's best interest to make sure guys who are productive college players but not good enough to make the pros worry at least as much about their school work as helping the team. The coach is trying to get paid, and he needs to keep these guys' eye on the prize. Winning games. It's not in the coach's best interest to punish guys for minor transgressions, not if it costs them game time. So rather than teaching them right from wrong, they teach them that, as long as they're an asset to the football team, different rules apply. Not to mention the fact that the right amount of psychotic aggression is likely important to the success of a linebacker, so I doubt they want to totally correct that sort of behavior so much as try to find the balance. Sort of like training a pit bull to attack and hoping that it only attacks what and when you want it to. And, as long as they sell to us that the kids are getting a free education, then they are obliged to do more than just point to the classroom and say, "There it is in case you want to learn something". They need to educate them, on life skills if nothing else. We hear far too much about these iconic coaches and how they mold these guys into men. Do they just mold the ones who already have their chight together and want to be molded? Seems sort of like a cop-out. In fact, the NCAA almost does the opposite. Every adult is running around, grabbing as much money as they can. And when a coach gets popped for cheating, he just shows up somewhere else and gets paid. Not only do we not teach these kids right from wrong, we basically expect them to be the first line of defense to keep the program clean. The sleazeballs offering the cash don't get punished. The coaches really don't. So, what motivation to they have to not push their luck with this whole mess? Great point, but it starts before that as well. Personally, I got away with sleeping in class, smoking at school, and ditching class. I was just a 4 year varsity wrestler. I went to high school with Deji Kareem and Bradford, and knew Deji well enough. Deji got away with so much it was crazy... I dont really have any dirt on Bradford, but I always thought he was a little slow, but found out he made great grades in honors classes. Not saying he didn't do that legitimately but you never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 (edited) Great point, but it starts before that as well. Personally, I got away with sleeping in class, smoking at school, and ditching class. I was just a 4 year varsity wrestler. I went to high school with Deji Kareem Karim and Bradford, and knew Deji well enough. Deji got away with so much it was crazy... I dont really have any dirt on Bradford, but I always thought he was a little slow, but found out he made great grades in honors classes. Not saying he didn't do that legitimately but you never know. Putnam City North High School in OKC Edited December 3, 2011 by Big John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coordi88 Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Yea, my brother also went to school with Olivia Munn, but I somehow got no in from that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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