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Some of you may know that the Confusion league (16 team, IDP dynasty league w/ 35 man roster and 90 year sal cap) is wrapping up its auction. I chose to invest heavily in vets and sit out the rookie draft (i.e., I saved no dough). I for practical purposes am done ...

 

I would love any input available. This was my first shot at IDP. Thanks!

 

Here is my D and what I plan to do with them:

 

19. DL S. Rice

20. L. Little

21. D. Howard

22. R. Coleman

 

23. LB Al Wilson

24. M. Greenwood

25. J. Trotter

26. L. Foote

27. Lemar Marshall

28. C. Watson

29. O. Huff

 

30. DB A. Archuleta

31. B. Sanders

32. S. Jones

33. K. Lucas

34. Deion Grant

35. D. Bly

 

Others on my roster as of now:

 

DL:

R. Sims

 

LB:

B. Short

M. Stewart

S. Williams

 

DB:

B. Jue

I. Brashir

D. Carpenter

K. Davis

 

Those I plan to place on Practice Squad:

 

C. Bockwoldt

G. Hayes

Dontarrious Thomas

E.J. Henderson

Demorrio Williams

Tank Williams

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Ouch

 

Al Wilson is your #1 LB, and Bob Sanders is probably your best DB if he can stay healthy.  That isnt what you want as your #1 IDP point producers.  Rice is aging and has the occasional big game but also has the goose eggs.  Little in 03 was a beast and 04 very average.  Howard is going to be playing inside more on passing downs, not what you want from a sack artist.  You have nice #2 AND #3 Lbs with Trotter and Watson or DT.  Henderson looks like the odd man out in Minny until Cowart is put aware to the pasture.  Archuletta is about 2 yrs past his prime and could be moved to FS, Jones is coming off a season ending injury but could be huge.  You have alot of question marks.  Personally Id like to see Sanders, Little, Rice, and Jones as depth, not needed starters.  Overall, not terrible, but not what I would have wanted just coming out of a draft.

 

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Hmmmm ... not a good review. Oh well, thanks for the input! Mebbe some of my high risk/high reward choices like Jones and Greenwood will pan out ... :D

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I know of at least one owner in ConFusion that has a better defense than you :D

 

Kenechi Udeze, minn DL

Will Smith, no DL

Alex Brown, chic DL

Randy Starks, denv DL

Marcus Tubbs, sea DL

 

Joey Porter, pitt LB

Orlando Ruff, no LB

Napolean Harris, minn LB

Jason Babin, hou LB

Karlos Dansby, ariz LB

 

Sean Taylor, was DB

Fred Smoot, minn DB

Tebucky Jones,dolp DB

Chris Gamble, car DB

Jason Shivers, stl DB

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The one name that sticks out on that LB group that may have a breakout year is Watson. I know he battled injuries a lot of last year, and shows a ton of promise. Although I had Archuleta last year, it just appears that the St. Louis defense is a mess with him in the scheme...there is never a consistent way that they use him, and he wears down as the season progresses.

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I know of at least one owner in ConFusion that has a better defense than you :D

 

Kenechi Udeze, minn DL

Will Smith, no DL

Alex Brown, chic DL

Randy Starks, denv DL

Marcus Tubbs, sea DL

 

Joey Porter, pitt LB

Orlando Ruff, no LB

Napolean Harris, minn LB

Jason Babin, hou LB

Karlos Dansby, ariz LB

 

Sean Taylor, was DB

Fred Smoot, minn DB

Tebucky Jones,dolp DB

Chris Gamble, car DB

Jason Shivers, stl DB

 

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I think not ... not by a long shot. :D

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I know of at least one owner in ConFusion that has a better defense than you :D

 

Kenechi Udeze, minn DL

Will Smith, no DL

Alex Brown, chic DL

Randy Starks, denv DL

Marcus Tubbs, sea DL

 

Joey Porter, pitt LB

Orlando Ruff, no LB

Napolean Harris, minn LB

Jason Babin, hou LB

Karlos Dansby, ariz LB

 

Sean Taylor, was DB

Fred Smoot, minn DB

Tebucky Jones,dolp DB

Chris Gamble, car DB

Jason Shivers, stl DB

 

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Perch, is there any MLB in that LB corp? Porter is Farriors coat carrier, Ruff is on the outside, as are Babin and Dansby. Harris is OLB too. I think the DB's look ok, as long as Smoot and Jones work out, but Taylor is being an idiot, with this hold out. I think the LB corp is a group of #3's, without any clear #1 or 2's. I like Udezi, but after that..... although DL's with the exception of 5 or 6, are not very big or imprortant point generators.

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Perch, is there any MLB in that LB corp? Porter is Farriors coat carrier, Ruff is on the outside, as are Babin and Dansby. Harris is OLB too. I think the DB's look ok, as long as Smoot and Jones work out, but Taylor is being an idiot, with this hold out. I think the LB corp is a group of #3's, without any clear #1 or 2's. I like Udezi, but after that..... although DL's with the exception of 5 or 6, are not very big or imprortant point generators.

 

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I agree with you that my LB's are a little on the weak side. It was an auction draft, and I wasn't willing to pay the outrageous prices for the MLB. To give you an idea, most of my LB's cost 1/3 of what the MLB's were going for, so they were more bang for my buck. I disagree with you on the DL. Alex Brown has been top 10-15 the last two years. Will Smith should have a pretty good year, otherwise, why were the Saints willing to trade (crap I forgot the guys name).

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... otherwise, why were the Saints willing to trade (crap I forgot the guys name).

 

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My guy Darren Howard? The problem for both of us is he wasn't traded ...

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  Will Smith should have a pretty good year, otherwise, why were the Saints willing to trade (crap I forgot the guys name).

 

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The Saints wanted to trade Howard because of the big hit he's taking on the cap & they wanted to get what they could before he becomes a FA & they could no longer afford to put the franchise tag on him. Smith will be a good player, but it has nothing to do with Howard's play.

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I know of at least one owner in ConFusion that has a better defense than you :D

 

Kenechi Udeze, minn DL

Will Smith, no DL

Alex Brown, chic DL

Randy Starks, denv DL

Marcus Tubbs, sea DL

 

Joey Porter, pitt LB

Orlando Ruff, no LB

Napolean Harris, minn LB

Jason Babin, hou LB

Karlos Dansby, ariz LB

 

Sean Taylor, was DB

Fred Smoot, minn DB

Tebucky Jones,dolp DB

Chris Gamble, car DB

Jason Shivers, stl DB

 

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Agreed....I like your D better

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I'll put my ConFusion defense out for the judges:

 

DL Justin Smith

DL Marcus Stroud

DL Pat Williams

DL Kelly Gregg

DL Grant Wistrom

DL Tommie Harris

 

LB Nick Barnett

LB Antonio Pierce

LB LaVar Arrington

LB Teddy Lehman

LB Akin Ayodele

LB David Thorton

LB Daryl Smith

 

DB Troy Polamalu

DB Terrence Kiel

DB Antoine Winfield

DB Ken Hamlin

DB Mike Doss

DB Dwight Smith

DB Kenoy Kennedy

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i agree with corky.....the last team has the best of the d's that i have seen from that league. some very good d's in fusion. look over at the rosters over there.

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While we're showing off our ConFusion D's, I'll throw mine into the pool. :D

 

 

DL

Hunt, Cletidus GBP

Ellis, Greg DAL

Gbaja-Biamila, Kabeer GBP

Kerney, Patrick ATL

Strahan, Michael NYG

 

LB

Boulware, Peter FA

Calmus, Rocky TEN

Green, Barrett NYG

Koutouvides, Niko SEA

Morris, Rob IND

Williams, D.J. DEN

 

CB

Hall, Deangelo ATL

Jammer, Quentin SDC

McAlister, Chris BAL

Newman, Terence DAL

Springs, Shawn WAS

Demps, Will BAL

Freeman, Arturo GBP

Holt, Terrence DET

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Now this is a stout defense, nice Job Wings.  Studs at every position, and plenty of quality depth in case of an injury.

 

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Have to agree that's the best defense I've seen posted here. Solid at every position. :D

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And mine?

 

DL

Adams, Sam BUF DT - 9

Weaver, Anthony BAL DT - 3

Zgonina, Jeff MIA DT - 4

Brayton, Tyler OAK DE - 5

Denney, Ryan BUF DE - 9

Peppers, Julius CAR DE - 7

Phillips, Shaun SDC DE - 10

Redding, Cory DET DE - 3

White, Dewayne TBB DE - 7

 

 

LB

Edwards, Donnie SDC LB - 10

Greisen, Nick NYG LB - 5

Lewis, Ray BAL LB - 3

Mitchell, Kawika KCC LB - 5

Pierce, Terry DEN LB - 9

Smith, Travian OAK LB - 5

Thomas, Robert STL LB - 9

Thompson, Ray GBP LB - 6

Urlacher, Brian CHI LB - 4

 

DB

Azumah, Jerry CHI CB - 4

Baxter, Gary CLE CB - 4

Gibson, Derrick OAK S - 5

Roman, Mark GBP S - 6

Thompson, Lamont TEN S - 10

Williams, Shaun NYG S - 5

Wire, Coy BUF S - 9

 

DTS

Green, Jamaal PHI DE - 6

Odom, Antwan TEN DE - 10

Chillar, Brandon STL LB - 9

Crowell, Angelo BUF LB - 9

Seigler, Richard SFO LB - 6

Strait, Derrick NYJ CB - 8

Reid, Dexter NEP S - 7

Scott, Guss NEP S - 7

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Now this is a stout defense, nice Job Wings.  Studs at every position, and plenty of quality depth in case of an injury.

 

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i agree with corky.....the last team has the best of the d's that i have seen from that league.  some very good d's in fusion.  look over at the rosters over there.

 

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Have to agree that's the best defense I've seen posted here. Solid at every position. :D

 

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Thanks, gentlemen. I really appreciate the feedback. I was pretty happy with the defense I was able to put together, but it's nice to get some verification.

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Thanks, gentlemen.  I really appreciate the feedback.  I was pretty happy with the defense I was able to put together, but it's nice to get some verification.

 

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put me in the camp of darn fine squad :D

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While we're showing off our ConFusion D's, I'll throw mine into the pool. :D

DL

Hunt, Cletidus GBP

Ellis, Greg DAL

Gbaja-Biamila, Kabeer GBP

Kerney, Patrick ATL

Strahan, Michael NYG

 

LB

Boulware, Peter FA

Calmus, Rocky TEN

Green, Barrett NYG

Koutouvides, Niko SEA

Morris, Rob IND

Williams, D.J. DEN

 

CB

Hall, Deangelo ATL

Jammer, Quentin SDC

McAlister, Chris BAL

Newman, Terence DAL

Springs, Shawn WAS

Demps, Will BAL

Freeman, Arturo GBP

Holt, Terrence DET

 

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selly sorry to say i dont get all warm and fuzzy when i look at your Def...I think your are extremely weak at LB....

DJ is your brightest star and there is a chance he winds up on the Strong Side ...Niko seems to be the starter in Sea for now but only time will tell if he is going to get it done...Something inside me says that mr. sharper could spend some time in the middle even though i havent heard anything to warrant that gut feeling...AT DL strahan is getting OLD , I think Kerney had a career year last yr...and well to be honest the DL pos is pretty similar to that of TE...as for your DBs they are deep but without any true stud stand out imo...and if there is one position that you can get a top 20 player off of waivers in season it would be the DB position....

 

sorry

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And mine?

 

DL

Adams, Sam BUF DT - 9

Weaver, Anthony BAL DT - 3

Zgonina, Jeff MIA DT - 4

Brayton, Tyler OAK DE - 5

Denney, Ryan BUF DE - 9

Peppers, Julius CAR DE - 7

Phillips, Shaun SDC DE - 10

Redding, Cory DET DE - 3

White, Dewayne TBB DE - 7

LB

Edwards, Donnie SDC LB - 10

Greisen, Nick NYG LB - 5

Lewis, Ray BAL LB - 3

Mitchell, Kawika KCC LB - 5

Pierce, Terry DEN LB - 9

Smith, Travian OAK LB - 5

Thomas, Robert STL LB - 9

Thompson, Ray GBP LB - 6

Urlacher, Brian CHI LB - 4

 

DB

Azumah, Jerry CHI CB - 4

Baxter, Gary CLE CB - 4

Gibson, Derrick OAK S - 5

Roman, Mark GBP S - 6

Thompson, Lamont TEN S - 10

Williams, Shaun NYG S - 5

Wire, Coy BUF S - 9

 

DTS

Green, Jamaal PHI DE - 6

Odom, Antwan TEN DE - 10

Chillar, Brandon STL LB - 9

Crowell, Angelo BUF LB - 9

Seigler, Richard SFO LB - 6

Strait, Derrick NYJ CB - 8

Reid, Dexter NEP S - 7

Scott, Guss NEP S - 7

 

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hmmm

 

Ray Ray

Donnie Edwards

Urlacher

 

people might look at that and think you are playing with 5yr olds...but truth be told the team seems built to win now more then later....both ray ray and donnie are getting long in the tooth(ray ray not as bad)...urlacher has to show he is over the problems he had last yr and that he isnt overrated as GIL states :D but you have some depth behind those guys.... as for DL Peppers and Brayton are 2 nice younger guys to have on your squad and Pep is a stud for sure...DBs will most likely see you working the ww but its a deep position...i do like shaun williams to have a nice bounce back yr...there are injury concerns but not much tread on the tires from the last two yrs...gibson and lamont should fill out your starting rotation nicely

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hmmm

 

Ray Ray

Donnie Edwards

Urlacher

 

people might look at that and think you are playing with 5yr olds...but truth be told the team seems built to win now more then later....both ray ray and donnie are getting long in the tooth(ray ray not as bad)...urlacher has to show he is over the problems he had last yr and that he isnt overrated as GIL states :D  but you have some depth behind those guys.... as for DL Peppers and Brayton are 2 nice younger guys to have on your squad and Pep is a stud for sure...DBs will most likely see you working the ww but its a deep position...i do like shaun williams to have a nice bounce back yr...there are injury concerns but not much tread on the tires from the last two yrs...gibson and lamont should fill out your starting rotation nicely

 

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There is no question that Los G is built to win now ... he has traded his 2006 1st and second round draft picks and has selected studs at his positions with little depth (his RBs are Edge and Stephen Jackson ... I think a lot of his team is predicated on the Jackson pick) ... we will see how it pays off ... I personally think he has one of the best teams ... most of the rest of us are just settling into this format ...

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Thanks, gentlemen.  I really appreciate the feedback.  I was pretty happy with the defense I was able to put together, but it's nice to get some verification.

 

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RWings I would add that you have put together a fine team, save for at WR (where you obviously have issues) ... I agree you have a rockin D ...

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And mine?

 

DL

Adams, Sam BUF DT - 9

Weaver, Anthony BAL DT - 3

Zgonina, Jeff MIA DT - 4

Brayton, Tyler OAK DE - 5

Denney, Ryan BUF DE - 9

Peppers, Julius CAR DE - 7

Phillips, Shaun SDC DE - 10

Redding, Cory DET DE - 3

White, Dewayne TBB DE - 7

LB

Edwards, Donnie SDC LB - 10

Greisen, Nick NYG LB - 5

Lewis, Ray BAL LB - 3

Mitchell, Kawika KCC LB - 5

Pierce, Terry DEN LB - 9

Smith, Travian OAK LB - 5

Thomas, Robert STL LB - 9

Thompson, Ray GBP LB - 6

Urlacher, Brian CHI LB - 4

 

DB

Azumah, Jerry CHI CB - 4

Baxter, Gary CLE CB - 4

Gibson, Derrick OAK S - 5

Roman, Mark GBP S - 6

Thompson, Lamont TEN S - 10

Williams, Shaun NYG S - 5

Wire, Coy BUF S - 9

 

DTS

Green, Jamaal PHI DE - 6

Odom, Antwan TEN DE - 10

Chillar, Brandon STL LB - 9

Crowell, Angelo BUF LB - 9

Seigler, Richard SFO LB - 6

Strait, Derrick NYJ CB - 8

Reid, Dexter NEP S - 7

Scott, Guss NEP S - 7

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Im not sold on any of your DL but Peppers, and you could have trouble finding which DL will score the most of the remaining, probably half as much as Peppers each week. Ray, Donnie will anchor this D for at least 2 yrs, but call me crazy, but I think Urlacher is over-rated. His next healthy season will be his first in 3 - 4 yrs and though hes solid when he plays, he gets hurt during games and leaves, costing you even when he plays, at time.

 

The DBs here are basically waiver wire guys, nothing you want to count on each week. But the DB position is the easiest to find a jewel on that wire during the season. Not bad, but Wings is by far superior, on defense anyway, and I d take Beaumonts D over this one as well.

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As long as we're posting our ConFusion D's I will lay mine out for review. This is my first IDP league and Darin helped me greatly in the beginning, until he joined the league himself. (The league is just finishing a slow auction, so if the teams look like they are built differently that is why).

 

We start 8 IDP, min 2 max 3 at each spot. Probable starters in bold. Obviously I have way too many bench players and will end up cutting / trading many of them.

 

DL:

D Freeney, IND

A Schobel, BUF

A Kampman, GB

J Ferguson, DAL

J Thornton, CIN

E Ekuban, DEN

R Torbor, NYG

O Roye, CLE

D Bowens, MIA

B Hamilton, OAK

C Lavalais, ATL

T Warren, NE

 

LB:

D Brooks, TB LB

Z Thomas, MIA LB

C June, IND LB

B Kassel, TEN LB

K Pope, IND LB

H Hillenmeyer, CHI LB

C Thompson, CLE LB

C Emmons, NYG LB

O Thurman, CIN LB (rookie)

 

DB:

E Coleman, NYJ DB

J Butler, STL DB

B Dawkins, PHI DB

N Clements, BUF DB

L Milloy, BUF DB

T Vincent, BUF DB

Sh Brown, PHI DB

R Howard, MIA DB

T Bua, MIA DB

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Looks pretty good to me.... and whatever you do, DON"T cut Thurman.

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RWings I would add that you have put together a fine team, save for at WR (where you obviously have issues) ... I agree you have a rockin D ...

 

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Bo, you're being kind...my WRs suck. It's basically 1 Man (Roy Williams) and several boys. I do feel, though, that the WR position is hard to predict and I was comfortable spending money elsewhere. Other than that, I'm pretty happy with my squad. You must be, too, you've got some really solid offensive players.

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