Caveman_Nick Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 Does the dominance of Manning when compared to other QB's make up for the 2nd tier RB's you'll get later? 917534[/snapback] That is not the question you should be asking. Only the first few selections get a Tier 1 RB, and most of the rest of the first round gets tier 2. If you truly believe that your tier 2 RBs are exactly that, then you should determine at what point selecting Manning will more likely than not bump you off of both tier 1 and tier 2. For me that is the 5th pick and earlier. It's subjective, as any other draft rankins are, but that is why I choose 6th as my first spot he is a viable pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 0ne Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 (edited) Exactly how is that relevant? 917543[/snapback] Very relevant. Where would you, oh great forum nazi, suggest those threads belonged? Your thread was clearly a Fantasy Advice question. We have an entire forum for Fantasy Advice questions. And dude, lighten up. The was my indication that I was merely busting your balls, and I even went on to answer your question. Edited August 9, 2005 by Hugh 0ne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted August 9, 2005 Author Share Posted August 9, 2005 IMO you have to consider Will Manning + Tier 2 RB + Tier 3 RB + Tier 2 WR + Tier 3 WR do better than Tier 2 or 3 QB + Teir 1 RB + Tier 2 RB + Tier 2 WR + Tier 2 WR of some such Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Jesus Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 917550[/snapback] Does uglytuna still frequent these parts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 917450[/snapback] Does uglytuna still frequent these parts? 917555[/snapback] Hugh, I didn't know Tuna frequented yer parts. 'Food for thought', so to speak... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 0ne Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 (edited) It's all depends on how you think the likes of Curtis Martin or Lamont Jordan will do, because that's who you'll end up with alongside of Manning. If you don't go Manning, you can have a Edge or McGahee, then a little bit riskier RB, a stud WR like Chad Johnson, and still maybe end up with Bulger. That's the ticket imo. Otherwise it's Manning, CuMar, Jordan, and then the WR's can start to fly, bu now you're looking at Joe Horn or Nate Burleson as your #1 WR. Edited August 9, 2005 by Hugh 0ne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 0ne Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 (edited) Does uglytuna still frequent these parts? 917555[/snapback] UT doesn't show up until he inflates his Tom Brady doll. Should be any day now. For the record, that's the life sized Tom Brady doll with the self lubricating bung hole. Edited August 9, 2005 by Hugh 0ne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote Quimby2 Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 Fantasyjesus, i prefer your avi at full size. nice. those legs are crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Jesus Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 Fantasyjesus, i prefer your avi at full size. nice. those legs are crazy. 917572[/snapback] I agree Quimby. The socks do it for me. That and her asking me if I want a Amstel Lite or Guiness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 (edited) Fantasyjesus, i prefer your avi at full size. nice. those legs are crazy. 917572[/snapback] um...I need the secret trick on how to get to those uploads.... EDIT: Not anymore EDIT: I'm practically weeping. She's the greated thing I've ever seen. I can't see how anyone could dispute the theroy of Intelligent Design after looking at her! Edited August 9, 2005 by Caveman_Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubfoothead Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 Maybe I'm a dinosaur but worst case scenario I go RB-WR-RB. More often than not, unless I'm drafting 1-4, I'm going RB-RB-WR. I think there is a combination of factors that make that the way I draft. First is that 9 times out of 10 whatever QB it is someone else is willing to take them earlier than I am. There are really only 4 QBs this year that matter and maybe, just maybe 1 of them gaurantees you a playoff spot? Second is that every year I think I see a sleeper QB or 2 that I can get whenever I want. In addition to that usually no more than 24 QBs are drafted in a 12 team league. That leaves starting QBs on the waiver wire every week to go along with the two I draft. Finally I don't believe the hype. Manning is the best starting QB in the game right now. Manning is money in the bank. The thing is throw out last year and that money totaled 27.8. Yep going into last season Manning averaged 27.8 TDs a season with his career high being 33 passing TDs 5 seasons ago. 2001 through 2003 Manning threw for 26, 27 and 29 TDs. Then last year he threw for 20 more TD passes than the year before. 48 or more passing TD seasons come along every 20 years. You should have told me to take him with the 1st pick last year not this year. Since 1983, the QB leading the NFL in TD passes has thrown, on average 34.86 TDs. In the previous 21 years the NFL leader in TD passes has thrown for 40 or more TDs 3 times. Marino in '84 (48), Marnio in '86 (44) and Warner in '99 (41). Only one QB has done it twice and none have done it in back-to-back years. Manning sure could be the first in '05 but I'm not betting MY 1st round pick on it happening. Not when to just throw for 40 would be 5 more TD passes than the NFL leader has averaged over the last 22 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted August 9, 2005 Author Share Posted August 9, 2005 Club we think a lot alike. I have never played in a league where ALL TDs are 6 points and it is making me re-evaluate my position on where to take a QB. However, just because I am re-evaluating doesn't mean I will change my basic strategy which has typically been to draft QBs later in the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTheWebToedBoy Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 Fantasyjesus, i prefer your avi at full size. nice. those legs are crazy. 917572[/snapback] Oh My......... What was the topic???? That's right Manning, if your sitting 10 - 12, 6pt Passing TDs Grab him. Anything earlier then that and your oing to be chasing RBs and WRs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollywood_69 Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 i don't understand why everyone is scared to take manning? he almost threw for 50 tds a game, his schedule is lighter this season, and he calls the plays at the gl, he can do whatever he wants, i wish i had first pick i'd jump manning's bones, and an added note he doesn't get hurt!! your last pick can be ramsey and not have to worry about a thing!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 (edited) i don't understand why everyone is scared to take manning? he almost threw for 50 tds a game, his schedule is lighter this season, and he calls the plays at the gl, he can do whatever he wants, i wish i had first pick i'd jump manning's bones, and an added note he doesn't get hurt!! your last pick can be ramsey and not have to worry about a thing!!! 918849[/snapback] If he throws for 50 tds a game, you better hope you are sitting at the first pick, cause that person will win the league hands down. Wait are we talking about the Manning playing Arena Football? And speaking of hands down, you might want to take your hands out of your pockets son cause your comment about jumping manning's bones has got to be in the wrong forum (or at least in the wrong something) for sure!!!! Unless you happen to be a girl. Then it is all cool! BTW, I agree with Hugh, let someone else pick up Manning, while you stockpile some better players and build a more rounded roster. You definitely can wait till the 3rd round and still have a decent QB IMO. I also don't believe he will duplicate his stats last year and the few QBs below him don't have near the same teams and players as last year (i.e. Culpepper and McNabb). Added note: And you know someone is going to pick him up in the first three picks anyways, so this discussion is probably null anyways. Edited August 10, 2005 by Lost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted August 11, 2005 Author Share Posted August 11, 2005 1.01 - LTomlinson 1.02 - P.Manning I didn't have to make the decision, somebody took him before my draft spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubfoothead Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 1.01 - LTomlinson1.02 - P.Manning I didn't have to make the decision, somebody took him before my draft spot. 921328[/snapback] I spent an hour working on that for nothing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Jesus Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 1.01 - LTomlinson1.02 - P.Manning I didn't have to make the decision, somebody took him before my draft spot. 921328[/snapback] I have the #4 spot and I hope somebody takes Manning in one of the top 3 spots as well leaving me with either Alexander or Priest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolv Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 I'll only be too happy to let someone else draft Manning and play catch-up. Unless, of course, he falls to the tail end of the 1st round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted November 12, 2007 Author Share Posted November 12, 2007 < bump > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonorator Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 < bump > you saying that brady would not have been a good first round pick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted November 12, 2007 Author Share Posted November 12, 2007 you saying that brady would not have been a good first round pick? The problem is that when the draft occurred nobody knows who the top QB will be and if there will be enough distance (would take ALOT) between him and the next QB to justify an early pick. If you took Manning early the year he broke Marino's record it may (or may not) have worked out well for you. If you took Manning early the next year (or this year) then it probably wasn't so great for you. So if you take Brady early next year there is a high probability that he will disappoint, just as Manning did the year after he threw 50 TDs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonorator Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 The problem is that when the draft occurred nobody knows who the top QB will be and if there will be enough distance (would take ALOT) between him and the next QB to justify an early pick. If you took Manning early the year he broke Marino's record it may (or may not) have worked out well for you. If you took Manning early the next year (or this year) then it probably wasn't so great for you. So if you take Brady early next year there is a high probability that he will disappoint, just as Manning did the year after he threw 50 TDs. understand, but this season has proved that going the RB route isn't exactly a sure thing either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Irish Doggy Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 I won with Manning this week in the dynasty league. But Westbrook helped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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