CaptainHook Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 Should TO honor his contract or should the Eagles guarantee him more money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS Miscreant Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 I've gotta go with Philly management because they have more families than just one to feed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgcoach Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 I've gotta go with Philly management because they have more families than just one to feed. 927028[/snapback] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 T.O. makes appearance at Falcons game NFL.com wire reports ATLANTA (Aug. 13, 2005) -- Terrell Owens was at a football game Aug. 13. Just not one involving the Philadelphia Eagles. Unhappy with his contract and sent home for a week by the Eagles, Owens attended the Atlanta Falcons' preseason game against the Baltimore Ravens at the Georgia Dome. The receiver has a home in Atlanta and plenty of time on his hands after getting kicked out of Eagles camp, the fallout from a heated dispute with coach Andy Reid. He can't return to camp until Aug. 17, but has made it clear he won't be happy without a new contract. Philadelphia has steadfastly refused to redo the seven-year, $49 million deal that Owens signed before last season. Owens, who was sitting four rows behind the Falcons bench, declined comment when approached by a reporter. (that must be a first) While the Falcons desperately need a big-time receiver, team officials have said privately that there's no chance of trading for Owens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donutrun Jellies Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 Honor the contract that you begged for to escape the SF/Baltimore heckholes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 Should TO honor his contract or should the Eagles guarantee him more money? 927027[/snapback] On JUST the question itself, TO without a doubt. If you figure in his childish escapades then TO getting support has no chance. I just look at it this way, if he hadn't come back heathy from his injury last year, they could have cut him and he'd get no $, that is just too unfair to support any NFL teams stance against any players contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted August 14, 2005 Author Share Posted August 14, 2005 (edited) I just look at it this way, if he hadn't come back heathy from his injury last year, they could have cut him and he'd get no $, that is just too unfair to support any NFL teams stance against any players contract. 927041[/snapback] I see it from the other way. He got paid $9 million last year. If his injury had been career-ending, he would still have all that money. If he couldn't come back, he wouldn't deserve to get paid for this year. If he plays for the Eagles NEXT year, he gets an additional $7 million on top of his salary. Everybody seems to be forgetting that. If he would have come out and performed on par with last year, there is no way the Eagles would have been able to cut him. Edited August 14, 2005 by CaptainHook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJW Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 I just look at it this way, if he hadn't come back heathy from his injury last year, they could have cut him and he'd get no $, that is just too unfair to support any NFL teams stance against any players contract. 927041[/snapback] I hesitate to get into this but I have to point out a flaw in this thinking. Let's say tomorrow you walk into your bosses office and tell him that due to health reasons you can no longer perform any of the tasks you where hired to do. Do you expect him to keep you on and keep paying you? No. Do you feel jobed because he's paid you for everything you've done up to that day? No. There is nothing unfair about that. So why is Owens in this same hypothetical situation any different? Also, this is a good read, and sheds some light on a couple of things. 1 - Owens showed up in camp with a personal agenda to NOT get along and cause problems. And it started DAY ONE. The final straw was him practicing separate from the team even though he told them he wasn't able to because of his groin injury. This had little or nothing to do with an autograph session. 2 - This injury waiver he's now saying "the Eagles" made him sign is a myth. The only waiver he signed was releasing HIS doctors from liability. This should be no surprise since the Owens camp continues to lie to the national media on several points, the most ridiculous being his idiot agent's claim that he's not paid in the top 10 for WRs. That's a flat out lie. His overall contract places him #4 right now and if you just look at the first three years he's #2, behind only Harrison. Owens' agenda is obvious. He has absolutely no leverage on his contract and he and his agent know that. So all he can do is become such a huge distraction and disruption to the team and organization that they deal or release him. IMO it ain't gonna work. This is a line in the sand that the NFL and it's owners can't cross. And this line has been coming for a few years now. This situation is of course a complete circus thanks to our media's current fixation with it. But the underlying issues, if dealt with wrongly by the Eagles, could impact this great game or ours in a more negative way than most realize. If they give in we will be looking at a MUCH different NFL in a few years. And not one I think most fans of the game would want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted August 14, 2005 Author Share Posted August 14, 2005 WW has spoken, so let it be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest THEbigred Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 SWEET another Owens thread Anyone know what he had for breakfast today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jelap1 Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 SWEET another Owens thread Anyone know what he had for breakfast today? 927116[/snapback] My guess is hotdogs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 Spain and three sheep voted for TO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PantherDave Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 I want it to absolutely implode-total team meltdown and incontinuity, now in saying this, I believe the Panthers could best them if they were the happiest team in the NFL, but ya take every advantage you can get in that leauge. Peace PD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 (edited) I hesitate to get into this but I have to point out a flaw in this thinking. Let's say tomorrow you walk into your bosses office and tell him that due to health reasons you can no longer perform any of the tasks you where hired to do. Do you expect him to keep you on and keep paying you? No. Do you feel jobed because he's paid you for everything you've done up to that day? No. There is nothing unfair about that. So why is Owens in this same hypothetical situation any different? Also, this is a good read, and sheds some light on a couple of things. 1 - Owens showed up in camp with a personal agenda to NOT get along and cause problems. And it started DAY ONE. The final straw was him practicing separate from the team even though he told them he wasn't able to because of his groin injury. This had little or nothing to do what an autograph session. 2 - This injury waiver he's now saying "the Eagles" made him sign is a myth. The only waiver he signed was releasing HIS doctors from liability. This should be no surprise since the Owens camp continues to lie to the national media on several points, the most ridiculous being his idiot agent's claim that he's not paid in the top 10 for WRs. That's a flat out lie. His overall contract places him #4 right now and if you just look at the first three years he's #2, behind only Harrison. Owens' agenda is obvious. He has absolutely no leverage on his contract and he and his agent know that. So all he can do is become such a huge distraction and disruption to the team and organization that they deal or release him. IMO it ain't gonna work. This is a line in the sand that the NFL and it's owners can't cross. And this line has been coming for a few years now. This situation is of course a complete circus thanks to our media's current fixation with it. But the underlying issues, if dealt with wrongly by the Eagles, could impact this great game or ours in a more negative way than most realize. If they give in we will be looking at a MUCH different NFL in a few years. And not one I think most fans of the game would want. 927100[/snapback] And the truth shall set you free...you may all go now. Except TO, of course. The rest of you--follow me to freedom! Edited August 14, 2005 by Ruffian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 This situation is of course a complete circus thanks to our media's current fixation with it. 927100[/snapback] Just wait until Wednesday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menudo Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 Easiest vote I've ever made. I support the Eagles. T.O. is garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 Nothing would please more than to see TO sit his butt on the Eagle bench all year long stewing in his own distractions. Especially if the Eagles could find a way to substantially reduce or even elimnate his pay due to his failure to do his job, the job he agreed to just last year. He left SF because of personal issues with Garcia and the SF coaches. He signed a new contract with Philly last season giving Reid his word that he would not be a problem. Now he wants out of Philly because personal issues with McNabb and the coaching staff. Resorting to childish antics in an attempt to get his own way only shows what a detriment TO can be to any team. While I am not an Eagle fan I can only imagine the irony if the Eagles benched TO all year and managed to win the superbowl. I have said in the past that I understand the player's plight in that they are bound by the contract they sign but the owners have the complete freedom to terminate the contract at will. That does not, however, give TO and his ass for an agent to behave in whatever manner they choose because they aren't happy with the CBA the player's union agreed to. Personally I hope TO never plays again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldengrhm1 Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 Couldn't agree more with that one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 Let's say tomorrow you walk into your bosses office and tell him that due to health reasons you can no longer perform any of the tasks you where hired to do. Do you expect him to keep you on and keep paying you? No. Do you feel jobed because he's paid you for everything you've done up to that day? No. There is nothing unfair about that. So why is Owens in this same hypothetical situation any different? 927100[/snapback] Bingo. That's exactly the point. And us Joe Schmoes wouldn't be able to fall back on $9m to cushion the impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 Personally I hope TO never plays again. 927198[/snapback] I agree with you. The owners should all agree to let him rot if the Eagles release him (which they can't do financially, but what a message that would send!). If I were the Eagles, I'd tell him to keep exercising in the yard--don't come back for the next six seasons. By the time he could go free, he'd be 38 years old. Good luck with that HoF career then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 I agree with you. The owners should all agree to let him rot if the Eagles release him (which they can't do financially, but what a message that would send!). If I were the Eagles, I'd tell him to keep exercising in the yard--don't come back for the next six seasons. By the time he could go free, he'd be 38 years old. Good luck with that HoF career then. 927211[/snapback] Yup ... that would be sweet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest THEbigred Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 SWEET another Owens thread - with a poll!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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