giantsfan Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 How many times do we need to see him and his team come up small in a big spot. Whether it's Tenn winning the NC with Tee Martin the year after he left, or Tenn NEVER beating Fla with him at QB, or him losing time after time to NE, and now today, this guy just does NOT win big games period. He doesn't play smart in big spots. 3rd and 2 WHY are they in the gun? Why not give Edge the ball and get the 1st, or at the VERY least be under C and make them think run is possible. But no Manning always trys for more. The # 1 objective BY FAR there is get the 1st, but not for Manning. Earlier it's 3rd and inches and what happens they are in the gun. Again WHY? Until the Colts stop trying to play pretty football and actually play the game right they will lose in big spots time and time again. All I can say for now is ENOUGH with Manning. He is overrated and fails in big spots ALL the time. The Colts are a bully team that losses games when teams stare them in the eye. Manning can throw 60 TD's next year and it doesn't matter. Win a big game once please and stop trying to out think everyone and play smart. Run the ball more and don't always go from the gun on 3rd and short PLEASE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ryan Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 Manning will end up with more SB rings than Roeth and Marino combined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czarina Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 Why, will Eli share some of his? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runner Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 Manning will end up with more SB rings than Roeth and Marino combined. 1267411[/snapback] Marino maybe, but Roethlisberger... NOT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantsfan Posted January 15, 2006 Author Share Posted January 15, 2006 Manning will end up with more SB rings than Roeth and Marino combined. 1267411[/snapback] This same thing gets said EVERY year and yet EVERY year he and they lose. When do we stop saying this? When he's 35? And considering combined Ben and Marino have ZERO SB rings that statement can certainly come true, but that isn't the point. The point is the guy NEVER wins big games. Not if he gets 1 ring or not. Marino made a SB and won other playoff games. Manning's playoff wins were all easy against bad D's. Get them in a close game and they lose period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 Marino maybe, but Roethlisberger... NOT! 1267418[/snapback] Cowher - 1-4 in AFC Championship games, 0-1 in Super Bowls. He seems to have a case of "Manning-itis" himself... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vet Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 Well, Cooper is still tied with Archie, Peyton and Eli for "Most Superbowl Wins By a Manning". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 Manning will end up with more SB rings than Roeth and Marino combined. 1267411[/snapback] +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeegiebo Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 No QB would have won facing that much pressure the entire game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantsfan Posted January 15, 2006 Author Share Posted January 15, 2006 Cowher - 1-4 in AFC Championship games, 0-1 in Super Bowls. He seems to have a case of "Manning-itis" himself... 1267433[/snapback] We seemed to get away from the point here. Cowher loses in big spots also but he isn't the greatest QB in the league, the MVP, the all-world wonderful godlike QB like Manning gets treated like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marino70@sbcglobal.net Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 (edited) What the heck do you mean stop?.........This is the best offense EVER...just look at all those playoff wins and super bowl rings. Edited January 15, 2006 by marino70@sbcglobal.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runner Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 Cowher - 1-4 in AFC Championship games, 0-1 in Super Bowls. He seems to have a case of "Manning-itis" himself... 1267433[/snapback] Weak attempt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantsfan Posted January 15, 2006 Author Share Posted January 15, 2006 No QB would have won facing that much pressure the entire game. 1267444[/snapback] True but why is it only in the playoffs this happens to Indy? Their whole team is soft that's why. If they can't win this year when they were BY FAR the best team and finally had HF when will they win? And no more well it's NE in NE because now it's Pitt who always seems to get beat in big playoff spots and they won IN Indy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ryan Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 True but why is it only in the playoffs this happens to Indy? Their whole team is soft that's why. If they can't win this year when they were BY FAR the best team and finally had HF when will they win? And no more well it's NE in NE because now it's Pitt who always seems to get beat in big playoff spots and they won IN Indy. 1267463[/snapback] yep, this game should have been called the Choke Bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runner Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 Manning CHOKED! Better luck next year w/o Edge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 Weak attempt. 1267455[/snapback] Well, I can't call it "Levy-itis" because he made it to Super Bowls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 The Colts got every break they could possibly hope for. The horrible replay reversal on the INT,and then the Bettis fumble,and they still can't pull it out. Manning's legacy continues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeegiebo Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 Manning CHOKED! 1267475[/snapback] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantsfan Posted January 15, 2006 Author Share Posted January 15, 2006 Manning CHOKED! Better luck next year w/o Edge. 1267475[/snapback] You want to know what a person who has NO rooting interest in Indy good or bad thinks? Until they stop trying to outsmart everyone and playing soft finesse football like SG on 3rd and inches or 3rd and 2, they will NOT win a darn thing. They need to re-tool the O, get a real FB, and run the ball with Edge 20-25 times EVERY game, and maybe just maybe not be soft every time. Like maybe 3rd and 2 late in the game you line up under C and actually try to get the 1st not 25 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runner Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 You want to know what a person who has NO rooting interest in Indy good or bad thinks? Until they stop trying to outsmart everyone and playing soft finesse football like SG on 3rd and inches or 3rd and 2, they will NOT win a darn thing. They need to re-tool the O, get a real FB, and run the ball with Edge 20-25 times EVERY game, and maybe just maybe not be soft every time. Like maybe 3rd and 2 late in the game you line up under C and actually try to get the 1st not 25 yards. 1267500[/snapback] Wait just an f'n minute. Everyone was calling this group the BEST OFFENSE EVER, prior to today's game. Now, all of a sudden.... They need changes???? Amazing what a playoff a$$-beating will do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantsfan Posted January 15, 2006 Author Share Posted January 15, 2006 (edited) Wait just an f'n minute. Everyone was calling this group the BEST OFFENSE EVER, prior to today's game. Now, all of a sudden.... They need changes???? Amazing what a playoff a$$-beating will do. 1267509[/snapback] That was MY opinion not everyone's. If you have seen my posts on the Colts O the past 2 years I have said this TIME and TIME again. I did NOT say they were the greatest O ever. I have ALWAYS said they were a bully team who cowers in big spots and won't win until they start playing some tough real football. Edited January 15, 2006 by giantsfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runner Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 That was MY opinion not everyone's. If you have seen my posts on the Colts O the past 2 years I have said this TIME and TIME again. I did NOT say they were the greatest O ever. I have ALWAYS said they were a bully team who cowers in big spots and won't win until they start playing some tough real football. 1267519[/snapback] Wasn't referring to you, specifically. I was referring to EVERY media-type covering the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantsfan Posted January 15, 2006 Author Share Posted January 15, 2006 Manning 38 passes Edge 13 rushes That says it all and is a COMPLETE 180 from what they did most of the year at least early. Yet in big games what happens Manning becomes Manning and throws pass after pass. Same old Colts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantsfan Posted January 15, 2006 Author Share Posted January 15, 2006 This may sound crazy but Manning may actually be too good for his own good. Instead of playing smart normal football he thinks the best option is to just keep throwing and throwing. As the season went on he threw more and more. Today he threw a TON. He may actually outsmart himself and be too good for his own good. And for the record obviously Manning is a great QB, but he isn't the smartest QB and I think that's clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vet Posted January 15, 2006 Share Posted January 15, 2006 This may sound crazy but Manning may actually be too good for his own good. Instead of playing smart normal football he thinks the best option is to just keep throwing and throwing. As the season went on he threw more and more. Today he threw a TON. He may actually outsmart himself and be too good for his own good. And for the record obviously Manning is a great QB, but he isn't the smartest QB and I think that's clear. 1267550[/snapback] Then, who is the smartest QB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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