The Official Bears/Packers Thread....

[gbpfan1231]

I just looked in my walet and did not find any moeny?? I did find some money though.

 

I agree that Chicago is a great city - there are just too many people from Illinois there.

[Goopster24]

I agree that Chicago is a great city - there are just too many people from Illinois there.

 

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Last time I checked, Chicago is in Illinois. Are you talking about the University of Illinois?

[Pope Flick]

I just looked in my walet and did not find any moeny??  I did find some money though.

 

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So you're taking both bets.

 

Good!

[gbpfan1231]

Goopster - That was a joke - It means that it is a great city but the people in it are not great.

 

I know Chicago is in Illinois. Why is it that the only people that need this joke explained to them are FIBS?

 

Pope and Goopster - I am just giving you guys crap. I agree that the Bears will win at least one game this year against the Pack. Not because Chicago is a good team. The Pack in a major rebuilding mode.

[Pope Flick]

Goopster - That was a joke - It means that it is a great city but the people in it are not great. 

 

I know Chicago is in Illinois.  Why is it that the only people that need this joke explained to them are FIBS?

 

Pope and Goopster - I am just giving you guys crap. 

 

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Bet's still on the table. If you're so confident there's going to be a split then you've got nothing to lose - right?

 

Give crap all you want, but use some smilies or do better with the name calling.

[Randall]

Last time I checked, Chicago is in Illinois. Are you talking about the University of Illinois?

 

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Bears fans do have the upper hand these days. I figured as much when they hired Lovee Smith. I'm sure many of you will punish us Packer fans , even those of us who never punished you, but isn't this starting a little early. That said I'll see you guys closer to the season.

[Chief Illiniwek]

I just looked in my walet and did not find any moeny??  I did find some money though.

 

I agree that Chicago is a great city - there are just too many people from Illinois there.

 

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Last time I checked, Chicago is in Illinois. Are you talking about the University of Illinois?

 

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Hey now...let's stay above the belt.

[Goopster24]

Goopster - That was a joke - It means that it is a great city but the people in it are not great. 

 

I know Chicago is in Illinois.  Why is it that the only people that need this joke explained to them are FIBS?

 

Pope and Goopster - I am just giving you guys crap.  I agree that the Bears will win at least one game this year against the Pack.  Not because Chicago is a good team.  The Pack in a major rebuilding mode.

 

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I'm sorry man, maybe now I am the idiot, what is a FIB?

[Pope Flick]

but isn't this starting a little early. That said I'll see you guys closer to the season.

 

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It's never too early for these teams!

[_4_]

I'm sorry man, maybe now I am the idiot, what is a FIB?

 

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F'ing Illinois fatherless male

[gbpfan1231]

Thanks 4

[Chavez]

Um, don't look like an idiot yourself. Read everything in the thread:

Again, what did you guys do last year? Oh yeah, secure a top 5 pick . And our stadium? Have you ever been there? I'll be the first to admit it looks like a spaceship from the outside, but inside, it's a different story. There isn't a bad seat in the house. And it's in Chicago, the best city in the US.

 

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Haven't been to the new Soldier, but everything I've heard backs up Goops' assertions - heinous looking from the outside but TERRIFIC on the inside. Not that I'm going to cease giving you guff about it.

 

And the '05 Packer season was nearly as much an aberration as the Bears' '01 season. Now, I don't seriously think GB is the best team in the division - Chicago has the best talent, QB questions aside, and Minny has won the offseason 2 straight years - but looking at the run of injuries and inexplicable performance by Favre, GB was STILL competitive in every game but 1. Add some draft picks to a solid talent base and I'd rate GB as a .500-ish team even in rebuilding mode. Enough horses to steal at least ONE from the Bears.

[Pope Flick]

Haven't been to the new Soldier, but everything I've heard backs up Goops' assertions - heinous looking from the outside but TERRIFIC on the inside. Not that I'm going to cease giving you guff about it.

 

And the '05 Packer season was nearly as much an aberration as the Bears' '01 season. Now, I don't seriously think GB is the best team in the division - Chicago has the best talent, QB questions aside, and Minny has won the offseason 2 straight years - but looking at the run of injuries and inexplicable performance by Favre, GB was STILL competitive in every game but 1. Add some draft picks to a solid talent base and I'd rate GB as a .500-ish team even in rebuilding mode. Enough horses to steal at least ONE from the Bears. 

 

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You wanna 50. bet on both games too?

[Chavez]

You wanna 50. bet on both games too?

 

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Ummmmmmmmmmm.............

[Goopster24]

And the '05 Packer season was nearly as much an aberration as the Bears' '01 season. Now, I don't seriously think GB is the best team in the division - Chicago has the best talent, QB questions aside, and Minny has won the offseason 2 straight years - but looking at the run of injuries and inexplicable performance by Favre, GB was STILL competitive in every game but 1. Add some draft picks to a solid talent base and I'd rate GB as a .500-ish team even in rebuilding mode. Enough horses to steal at least ONE from the Bears. 

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EDIT: This is the NFL; anyone can "steal" a game from anyone.

Edited April 15, 2006 by Goopster24

[Brentastic]

Soldier field is sweet on the inside. Right now, the Bears own the Packers. Tell Favre to pack it up and retire. I hope you guys get stuck with Rogers this year, that would so make my day

 

:My fuel to the fire:

[rocknrobn26]

Note to Pope and Goop:

 

Why are you arguing w/ a guy who has a hockey AVI? And am I the only one who thinks "4" is an alias of gbpfan1231 (himself)??

 

Chavez....as always makes good points! Eventhough he's an FWB!!!!

[Pope Flick]

This post is in response to Cliaz’s post found here. Allow me to educate Cliaz on the depth of the Bears/Pack rivalry:

 

I found this article on the web around 2000 or so - these first 2 stats do NOT reflect games played since then:

 

*. Since the first game was played between the two teams in 1921, the Bears

have managed to win only 13 more games than the Packers. The Bears have won

84 games, the Packers have won 71 games and both teams have tied 6 times.

 

*. After more than 161 regular season meetings between the Packers and the

Bears, the average score between the two teams is separated by less than 1.2

points. The Bears have averaged 17.0 points per game and the Packers have

averaged 15.8 points per game.

 

*. In the first ever meeting with the Packers, Bears guard 'Tarzan' Taylor

sucker-punched Howard 'Cub' Buck of the Packers and broke his nose. In a

subsequent meeting the following season, a different member of the Bears

squad went after Buck's nose again. Only this time Buck broke the player's

arm.

 

*. The Bears have been hated from the very beginning. Someone in 1921 wrote

that the Bears were "strongly disliked in every city in the league, except

Green Bay and Rock Island. In those places they are hated."

 

*. Away from the gridiron, former Bears head coach George Halas was often

quoted saying he was a friend with Packers founder Curly Lambeau. However,

his actions on the field were far more telling. Halas seldom missed a chance

for a cheap shot and often shook his fist at Lambeau from across the field,

as well as other vulgar hand gestures.

 

*. Jealous Bears fans often criticize Wisconsin's predominantly rural

setting while failing to realize Chicago is nothing more than a pompous

Cleveland.

 

*. Bears founder and head coach George Halas has been called the "granddaddy

of professional football," yet the cantankerous old fart arguably did more

to hurt the Packers and the game itself than he ever did to help it.

 

*. The Bears often claim to be one of the founding members of the NFL and

older than the Packers, but they are mistaken. Although Halas' Chicago-based

team was a first-rate outfit in 1921-perhaps the best in pro football-he did

not actually own the franchise. The Chicago Staleys were still the property

of starch-maker A.E. Staley of Decatur, Ill. Halas and his partner, Ed

"Dutch" Sternaman, were the managers of the team (as well as coaches and

star players). The Staleys did not organize until March

1920. Green Bay's first game as the 'Packers' was in 1919-one full year

before the Bears organized.

 

*. Professional football enthusiasts in Chicago perpetually brag about

Halas' 40-year endurance record as coach of the Bears. Halas' 40 seasons as

head coach, however, were split into four 10-year segments from 1920-29;

1933-42; 1946-55; and 1958-67. Halas took three years off from coaching in

the 1930s, needed help from Luke Johnson and Heartley 'Hunk' Anderson (the

former gridiron star Halas swiped from the Packers) in the 1940s and went on

a two-year hiatus in the 1950s. Curly Lambeau, by contrast, coached 33

consecutive years in the NFL.

 

*. Though college football players played on every NFL team in the early

days of professional football (including the Bears), Halas exposed the fact

that Notre Dame guard Heartley 'Hunk' Anderson was playing for the Packers.

According to one published account, Halas contributed to (and possibly wrote

entirely himself) a newspaper article exposing the fact in the Chicago

Tribune. Halas desperately wanted and fully expected Anderson to play for

the Bears, however, when he learned that Anderson was playing for the

Packers, he was irate. Halas, it seems, was angry that a small market team

like the Packers could lure Anderson away from his big bad Bears. He wasted

no time demanding that the league revoke the Packers franchise. Halas

subsequently was responsible for delaying the Packers reinstatement the

following summer so he could sign Anderson right out from under the nose of

the Green Bay Packers.

 

*. Quarterback Jim McMahon wore a Bears jersey while attending a White

House celebration honoring the Packers victory in Super Bowl XXXI. M any die-hard fans of the green and gold refuse to recognize

the fact that he EVER played for the Packers to this very day.

 

*. The NFL's first championship game was held between the Bears and

Portsmouth Spartans in 1932. However, the Packers had four more victories

than the Bears that season and a better winning percentage. If today's

method of calculating winning percentages had been employed, the Packers

should have played in the 1932 championship game and competed for an

unprecedented a fourth consecutive NFL title.

 

*. Following an exhibition game between the Packers and Bears in 1934 at

State Fair Park in Milwaukee, the Chicago Tribune erroneously reported that

Joe Carr, the president of the NFL, refused to officially sanction the game

since the teams scheduled the contest after the season had begun. The

Tribune further claimed that the teams agreed to award the gate receipts to

the winner of the match, which the Bears won 10-6. The truth is, however,

Halas scheduled the exhibition game to help pay off a previous debt owed to

the Packers. Both teams agreed to play the exhibition game in Milwaukee with

the league's blessings as a result. The Packers kept all of the money earned

from the game to settle their previous loan to the Bears. The Tribune was

obviously trying to masquerade the financial problems facing the Bears at

the time.

 

* In a 1929 contest between the two teams, Bears lineman Bill Fleckenstein

smacked Hall of Famer Cal Hubbard of the Packers above the eye. On the

ensuing play, Hubbard led with his right forearm and dropped Fleckenstein to

his knees. Way to go, Cal!

 

*. Because he played in a much larger media market, Bears fullback Bronko

Nagurski captured much more fame and fortune than the Packers Clarke Hinkle,

despite the fact that Hinkle was a much better athlete and often bested

Nagurski whenever the two faced each other on the gridiron.

 

*. On Thanksgiving Day in 1921 a huge turnout was expected in the second

game ever between the Packers and the Bears. Despite having previously inked

a contract and agreeing to play the game in Green Bay, Halas wired Lambeau

demanding that Green Bay pay an 'extortion' fee of $4,000 before he brought

his team north to play the game. Unable to meet Halas' demands, Lambeau

could do little and was forced to replace the Bears with the non-league game

vs. the Duluth Kelleys. The ensuing game was a disaster. Disinterested fans

failed to show-up to watch a non-league contest in a driving rain. Only 100

people attended the game and Halas' action brought the Packers to the brink

of bankruptcy.

 

*. When the Bears experienced a financial pinch in 1933, the Packers loaned

Halas and the Bears half of the total sum of the gate receipts from their

game that season in Chicago totaling $1,500 so Halas could meet his payroll.

The loan helped save the Bears franchise from financial disaster. In other

words, if it had not been for the Packers, the Bears likely would not exist

today. Lambeau should have instead told Halas to "stick it."

 

*. Three years after Halas and the Bears accused the Packers of employing

the services of college players and nearly killing the franchise as a

result, Halas himself tampered with an undergraduate player. The player's

name was Harold 'Red' Grange. Halas faced a far different fate than what he

subjected the Packers to (when he lead the charge to revoke Green Bay's

charter). Halas not only got away with the stunt, the Bears were never even

punished by the league.

 

*. George Halas was a pallbearer at Curly Lambeau's funeral despite his

intense dislike for Lambeau and doing all he could to destroy the Packers

organization. It will never be known what Lambeau would have thought of the

gesture, but legions of Packers fans were nonetheless offended.

 

*. In 1976, Walter Payton became the first Bears running back since Gail

Sayers to surpass 1,000 rushing yards in a season when he gained 109 yards

in a Chicago's 24-13 victory over the Packers. A year later, Payton tied

Sayers' club single-game record of 205 rushing yards in a 26-0 victory over

Green Bay at Lambeau Field.

 

*. In 1949, while the NFL and the rival AAFC began discussing a merger,

Halas wanted the Packers to move all of their games to Milwaukee. This was a

decidedly bad time to make public such a request and could have destroyed

the Packers as we know them today because, at the time, representatives of

the AAFC wanted the Packers to disband altogether or move to New Orleans or

Dallas.

 

*. Less than five minutes before a contest with the Packers in the 1960s,

the usually smug George Halas knocked on the door of the Packers' training

room and asked to speak to Coach Lombardi. When Lombardi came to the door,

Halas told him, "Coach, I hope you have your team ready because we're going

to kick your ass." Unfortunately for Halas, the exact opposite proved true.

 

*. In a game vs. the Packers, Bears lineman Lee Artoe pulled down the pants

of Packers running back Ted Fritsch and bit him. Many years later Fritsch

said, "That (expletive) Artoe still has his teeth marks on my ass."

 

*. As a tight end for the Cowboys, Mike Ditka (who later became head coach

of the Bears) never missed a cheap shot at Ray Nitschke, once giving him a

broken arm.

 

*. In 1963, the two-time defending champion Packers lost only twice-both

times to the Bears. The Bears edged the Packers in the Western Conference

standings and went on to defeat the Giants 14-10 in the NFL title game

 

*. After all of the years they coached together in the NFL, Curly Lambeau

never once shook hands with George Halas following games between each other.

 

*. On the first play of a game between the Bears and Packers in 1990, Don

Majkowski threw a touchdown pass to Sterling Sharpe. Following the score,

Bears safety Mark Carrier illegally slammed into Sharpe giving him a

concussion and knocking him out of the game.

 

*. Prior to the start of a game at Wrigley Field in the 1950s, the Bears

secretly disconnected the sideline phones, which the Packers used to

communicate with the coach's box in the stands. Blaming the outage on the

telephone company, the Bears' phones worked perfectly fine.

 

*. Ray Nitschke grew up wanting to play for the Bears. After playing 15

seasons for the Packers, however, Nitschke learned to hate the Bears with

unmatched fervor.

 

*. In 1968, Bears running back Gale Sayers had his best rushing day as a

professional, gaining 205 yards in Chicago's 13-10 victory over the Packers.

 

*. The first coach hired after the departure of Lambeau from Green Bay was

Gene Ronzani, who was previously a player and assistant coach for the Bears.

In his three-year stint as head coach of the Packers, Ronzani posted a

miserable 14-31 record. Leave it to a former Bears player and coach to take

the Packers to new depths of misery.

 

*. When the Packers were lobbying for a new stadium in 1956, Halas himself

made a personal appearance at a bond rally in Green Bay as citizens were

getting ready to vote on a referendum that would pave the way for the

building of New City Stadium. Given his poor reputation in the city, his

effort probably did more harm than good.

 

*. The Bears headquarters in Lake Forest, Ill. is located just around the

corner from the intersection of Green Bay Road and Wisconsin Avenue. How

ironic!

 

*. The "Great Chicago Fire" of 1871 is frequently mentioned in the annals

of history despite the fact that a fire engulfed Peshtigo, Wis. on that same

day killing far more people. In fact, the residents of Chicago are so

arrogant that they actually teach their kids that sparks from the "Great

Chicago Fire" drifted more than 250 miles north to start the fire in

Peshucksgo. Right!

 

*. Vince Lombardi told his players that they "had to" dislike everything

about the Bears, including George Halas as he stood on the goal line during

warm-ups. "Lombardi," Willie Davis was quoted saying, "made it seem like

Lambeau never left."

 

*. There are 25 former Bears players inducted into the Pro Football Hall of

Fame, more than any other team in the NFL. The Packers are second with 19

players, despite having won 4 more NFL championships.

 

*. Former Bears defensive tackle Jim Flanigan, Jr., who grew up in

Wisconsin and is the son of former Packers linebacker Jim Flanigan, never

wasted an opportunity to ridicule the Packers when he was with the Bears.

Reminiscent of William 'The Refrigerator' Perry, Flanigan was even used as a

fullback on one touchdown play vs. the Packers in 1999. Flanigan has since

signed with the Packers and had more sacks in his first game with the

Packers than the entire Bears defense had all day.

 

*. The "Super Bowl Shuffle" alone should be enough for anyone to hate the

Bears.

 

*. In 1957 the Bears had the nerve to enter a float in the celebratory

parade honoring the christening of New City Stadium (which would later be

named Lambeau Field). Someone should have met the Bears caravan at the city

limits and told them to turn around and go home.

 

*. While visiting Chicago in 1980, the Packers trailed the Bears 55-7 late

in the 4th quarter. Despite the lopsided score, Bears coach Niell Armstrong

put Walter Payton back into the game and instructed his quarterback to throw

two long bombs to help rub the Packers' nose into the ground. The Bears went

on to win 61-7 and they lamented that the score wasn't more lopsided.

 

*. In their media guide, Chicago claims that more professional football

games have been played at Wrigley Field than at any other active complex.

Professional football, however, hasn't been played at Wrigley Field in

decades and it is no longer an active NFL venue. The Packers hold this

record with over 380 games played at Lambeau Field.

 

*. When the Packers arrived at Wrigley Field for a game in 1947, they

discovered that their benches had been moved to the far end of the

field-some 80 yards from the action at the other end of the field.

 

*. After losing to the Packers in the 1940s, Halas punched a fan in the

face at the Green Bay train station.

 

*. William 'The Refrigerator' Perry's touchdown against the Packers on

Monday Night Football on October 21, 1985 was one of the most humiliating

incidents in Packers' team history.

 

*. In 1985, Bears wide receiver Dennis McKinnon once referred to the

Packers as the Green Bay Quackers "because they cry a lot." McKinnon later

cried himself when the Bears cut his ass following the 1989 season after

only managing 28 receptions in his final year with the Bears.

 

*. In 1936, Packers fan Emmett Platten ran onto the field at City Stadium

in Green Bay and punched Bears player Ted Rosequist on the jaw. He should

have aimed lower.

 

*. Former Bears head coach Dave Wannstedt was drafted by the Packers in the

15th round of the 1974 draft. Wannstedt, a defensive tackle from the

University of Pittsburgh, was injured before the start of the 1974 season

and was later cut by the Packers.

 

*. In 1986, while being chased by defensive end Charles Martin, Bears

quarterback Jim McMahon threw an interception to Packers cornerback Mark

Lee. Martin then bear-hugged McMahon, picked him up, and threw him onto the

hard Soldier Field artificial turf.

 

*. When a 1989 game between the Packers and Bears was correctly decided in

the closing seconds with the use of instant replay, Bears coach Mike Ditka

and Bears' management were so angry that they ordered their pubic relations

department to place an asterisk by the score of the game in the media guide,

signifying that it was an "instant-replay game." The notation remains in

their annual media guide still today.

 

*. WTMJ-AM radio and the Packer Radio Network hired Wayne Larrivee to

replace the legendary Jim Irwin. Larrivee spent 14 years broadcasting games

for the hated Bears.

 

*. Former Bears defensive lineman Steve 'Mongo' McMichael "defeated" future

Hall of Famer Reggie White in a WCW wrestling match on pay-per-view

television. McMichael also played for the Packers in 1994, selling out his

former team by signing with the Packers.

 

*. Bears fans were responsible for spreading rumors about the death of a

pet dog belonging to former Packers coach Dan Devine. While gadflies in

Chicago blamed angry Packers fans for the dog's shooting, truth is Devine's

pet was shot by a neighbor who repeatedly warned the Packers coach that the

dog was killing his chickens

 

*. Following a fake punt against the Bears years ago, Clarke Hinkle of the

Packers scooped up the ball and headed around the end of the line with Bears

fullback Bronko Nagurski closing in on him. Hinkle cut back and crashed

headfirst into Nagurski. When the two collided, a thunderous clap echoed

through the stadium. Hinkle was knocked backwards, and Nagurski was knocked

out. Nagurski's nose was broken and blood streamed down his face. "I

remember running onto the field and heading for Nagurski so I could help

stop the bleeding," said Howie Levitas, a trainer for the Packers from 1928

to 1940. "Their head trainer stopped me and told me to attend to Hinkle

(instead). I remember Hinkle saying, 'I really got that S.O.B., didn't I?

Now I'm happy.'"

 

*. If Bears fans claim to hate Wisconsin so much, why are highways leading

north from Illinois to Wisconsin always choked full of cars with Illinois

license plates on summer weekends?

 

*. Separated by only 200 miles, big, bad Chicago couldn't be more different

than Green Bay nor their residents more certifiably insane. Chicago also has

40 times more people than tiny, little Green Bay.

 

*. After retiring from football, Mike Ditka was tormented that his

archrival Forrest Gregg was elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame in his

first year of eligibility. Ditka had to wait 11 years before being voted

into the Hall of Fame.

 

*. In 1953, George Halas offered $50 to any of his Bears who could "knock

the mustache off" of Packers receiver Bob Mann. Mann was the Packers first

African American player.

 

*. In the 1940s and 50s, Packer players were reminded to keep their helmets

on while they sat on the sidelines because Bears fans liked to throw things

at them from the stands.

 

*. Curly Lambeau coached in Chicago after leaving the Packers in 1950.

 

*. Only three times since 1967 have both the Packers and Bears had winning

records the same season. Only once during that span did both teams make the

playoffs in the same season.

 

*. In the first game of the 1997 season at Lambeau Field vs. the Bears,

Bryan Cox's bum-rush of Frank Winters on the last play of the first half

sent future Hall of Famer Brett Favre crashing to the turf, popping his

helmet ajar.

 

*. Unlike recent coaches of the Packers, Lambeau understood the importance

of the rivalry. Lambeau would not let players smile the week leading up to

the game.

 

*. While filming a game at Wrigley Field in the 1960's, NFL Films captured

a Bears fan reaching for a football kicked into the stands. The fan had a

handgun sticking out of his belt. When Steve Sabol of NFL Films showed the

footage to George Halas, the former Bears head coach demanded that it never

be used. Halas then instructed Sabol to use footage of fans taken from other

stadiums.

 

*. In 1942, while trailing the Bears 38-0 late in the fourth quarter, the

Packers risked having a Don Hutson scoring streak coming to an end. On the

final possession of the game, the Packers only objective was to keep Hutson'

s scoring streak alive. Former Bears head coach George Halas, however, had

other plans and ordered triple coverage on Hutson the entire drive. The

Packers advanced the ball all of the way to the 20-yard line of the Bears

where the drive stalled. Three incomplete passes later, on 4th and 10, with

20 yards to go for a touchdown and time running out; Hutson ran a simple

pattern toward the end zone. But when he got to the goal post, Hutson stuck

out his arm, grabbed the post and spun himself around. When his defenders

flew by, a wide-open Hutson caught a touchdown pass to keep the streak

alive. Hutson's teammates cheered as if they won the game despite their 38-7

trouncing. Halas, on the other hand, was furious despite the win.

 

*. According to "Farewell to Football," by Jerry Kramer, the Bears success

in 1963 is in part because Bill George stole the Packer playbook at the 1962

Pro Bowl. After the 1963 season, the 11-1-2 Bears defeated the Giants in the

NFL title game. The 11-2-1 Packers missed out. The Packers two losses were

to the Bears. When Jerry Kramer arrived at the 1963 Pro Bowl game practice

sessions, Pro Bowl team coach George Halas gave him the Pro Bowl team play

book. It was almost exactly like the Packer playbook. In fact, at the Pro

Bowl the previous season, Packer coach Vince Lombardi had used the Packer

playbook, and Bear linebacker Bill George had stolen as much of it as he

could. Kramer recalled that during the Packer-Bear games from 1963, George

seemed to know all the Packer audibles. Lombardi was furious, and never

coached a Pro Bowl game again.

 

*. A brother of George Halas sold Vince Lombardi the first heating coils

installed under Lambeau Field. Not only did the darn things not work, they

caused the near cancellation of the 1967 NFC Championship game between the

Green Bay Packers and Dallas Cowboys in Green Bay, Wisconsin when they were

first used. Condensation built up underneath the tarpaulin overnight and

caused razor-sharp ice to form once the tarp was removed because the heating

coils were unable to match Green Bay's frigid cold temperatures.

 

*. The Chicago Bears borrowed $150 million from the NFL to help pay for

their $585 million renovation to Soldier Field. The Packers, on the other

hand, were only able to borrow $13 million for their $295 million project.

Teams in bigger markets, like Chicago, can qualify for up to 50% of the cost

of construction, whereas smaller markets can get up to 34% of the cost of

construction.

 

*. George Halas would always greet players for the Green Bay Packers

nicely when they were warming up, but if you were tackled on his sideline

during the game, it was not uncommon to hear him say something like, "Kill

that S.O.B.!"

 

*. In the 1960s, Coach Vince Lombardi painted the words "Beat the Bears"

on all the blocking bags. Other times, he would have his players switch

jersey numbers and play different positions during practice-just in case

Halas was spying on him.

 

Now THAT is a rivalry!

[Ursa Majoris]

Quite a rivalry. The stuff above was written by a Packer, obviously, so objectivity and common sense are perforce missing, as are some salient facts. What would you expect from people that drink paint thinner?

 

Here's one quote:

Professional football enthusiasts in Chicago perpetually brag about

Halas' 40-year endurance record as coach of the Bears. Halas' 40 seasons as

head coach, however, were split into four 10-year segments from 1920-29;

1933-42; 1946-55; and 1958-67. Halas took three years off from coaching in

the 1930s, needed help from Luke Johnson and Heartley 'Hunk' Anderson (the

former gridiron star Halas swiped from the Packers) in the 1940s and went on

a two-year hiatus in the 1950s. Curly Lambeau, by contrast, coached 33

consecutive years in the NFL.

It would have been worth mentioning that Halas' hiatus between 1942 and 1946 was caused by:

Halas went on a second three-year hiatus during World War II, serving in the Armed Forces from 1943-45, while the Bears won another title in 1943.

 

Packer historians can kiss this ----->

[Pope Flick]

Quite a rivalry.  The stuff above was written by a Packer, obviously, so objectivity and common sense are perforce missing, as are some salient facts.  What would you expect from people that drink paint thinner?

 

Here's one quote:

 

It would have been worth mentioning that Halas' hiatus between 1942 and 1946 was caused by:

Packer historians can kiss this -----> 

 

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It was most certainly written by a PackerBacker.

 

Here's what the orignal intro said about Chavez' all time favorite packer Charles Martin ( I edited this):

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In 1986, while being chased by defensive end Charles Martin, Bears

quarterback Jim McMahon threw an interception to Packers cornerback Mark

Lee. Martin then bear-hugged McMahon, picked him up, and threw him onto the

hard Soldier Field artificial turf. Martin was promptly ejected from the

game. Bears fans, however, fail to recall that McMahon was eligible to be

blocked since the play resulted in an interception. Martin should have been

inducted into the Packer Hall of Fame on the spot.

[rocknrobn26]

Point, set; match! Good post Pope! If I didn't know better I'd swear Chavez wrote that!

[Chavez]

If I didn't know better I'd swear Chavez wrote that! 

 

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[Chavez]

It was most certainly written by a PackerBacker.

 

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Don't judge all of us by some of the blind idiots. I mean, c'mon, would you like Chicagoans to be identified by the most deluded of Cub fans?

 

Especially the "Hinkle was clearly better than Nagurski" - Hinkle CLEARLY got his props while playing (4-time All Pro, member of the Hall of Fame's 2nd class), he's just been unjustly forgotten. I'm not sure why, because any research into Packer/Bears lore shows that Hinkle-Nagurski was one of the great rivalries within the rivalry - as much as people like to compare Butkus and Nitschke, imagine if those two had hated each other and got to butt heads for a full 60 minutes playing both ways.

[Chavez]

*. Since the first game was played between the two teams in 1921, the Bears

have managed to win only 13 more games than the Packers. The Bears have won

84 games, the Packers have won 71 games and both teams have tied 6 times.

 

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Current standings - 78-87-6 - post-season included. Before ya Bears fans get all uppity, let's recall that as recently as Holmgren's 2nd year in GB, the margin was 59-81-6.

 

Chicago has lost a bit of ground to the Pack the past few years.

[Goopster24]

What's new Packer fans?