sundaynfl Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 (edited) I watched some of the USA game earlier today and didn't change the channel. I come back from a meeting and the Ita Vs. Gha is on. The Italians have a breakaway and the Italian guy gets behind the Gha guy and offsides is called. What's to prevent someone on the other team from slowing down or stopping on a breakaway causing offsides to be called?? Edited to add: These guys need to go to acting class!! Edited June 12, 2006 by sundaynfl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 Offsides occurs when an offensive player gets behind the defense without having the ball. If the Italian you mentioned would have had the ball he would not have been offsides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitem0nkey Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 What's to prevent someone on the other team from slowing down or stopping on a breakaway causing offsides to be called?? Edited to add: These guys need to go to acting class!! they do that, and sometimes it bites the team i the butt cause they tough that they would get the offside call and they dont, and now its a one on one situation with the goalie. its a fine line of playing the offside and going in to stop the play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecerwin Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 Offsides is a stupid rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundaynfl Posted June 12, 2006 Author Share Posted June 12, 2006 Offsides is a stupid rule. You'd probably have more scoring without it! I could play the new position created "Cherry Picker" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatman Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 Offsides is a stupid rule. Other than the fact that it eliminates cherry picking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REZ Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 Don't worry about it. People who've been watching their kids play soccer for 15 years still don't get the offsides rule. I've been doing high school soccer games for a few years and have to constantly explain it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godtomsatan Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 Don't worry about it. People who've been watching their kids play soccer for 15 years still don't get the offsides rule. I've been doing high school soccer games for a few years and have to constantly explain it. Not to mention it doesn't always get called. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitem0nkey Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 Its only off-side, it not like explaining the electoral college Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecerwin Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 Other than the fact that it eliminates cherry picking. Simple solution for the defense without making the game less exciting... Don't lose track of the forwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 Offsides is a stupid rule. No more stupid than in football. If there was no offside in soccer, you'd just have each team punting the ball up the field all the time, bypassing the center. However, I would advocate a line across the field 35 yards from each end with no offside in the middle of the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-mongus Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 No more stupid than in football. If there was no offside in soccer, you'd just have each team punting the ball up the field all the time, bypassing the center. However, I would advocate a line across the field 35 yards from each end with no offside in the middle of the field. Would that line be painted blue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 Would that line be painted blue? Good point, it would be like hockey, but with teeth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
untateve Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 I watched some of the USA game earlier today and didn't change the channel. I come back from a meeting and the Ita Vs. Gha is on. The Italians have a breakaway and the Italian guy gets behind the Gha guy and offsides is called. What's to prevent someone on the other team from slowing down or stopping on a breakaway causing offsides to be called?? Edited to add: These guys need to go to acting class!! The offside call is made when the pass is initiated, not when it is received. Example 1 X1............................Y ...................................X2 If X1 passes the ball to X2 at this moment, X2 is offside (Y=defender). Example 2 X1..........................Y ............................X2 If X1 passes the ball to X2 at this moment, he is onside. Once the ball is passed, if Y runs toward X's goal, X2 is still not offside because at the time the pass was initiated, he was onside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 The offside call is made when the pass is initiated, not when it is received. Example 1 X1............................Y ...................................X2 If X1 passes the ball to X2 at this moment, X2 is offside (Y=defender). Example 2 X1..........................Y ............................X2 If X1 passes the ball to X2 at this moment, he is onside. Once the ball is passed, if Y runs toward X's goal, X2 is still not offside because at the time the pass was initiated, he was onside. This is exactly right and a very good visual explanation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundaynfl Posted June 12, 2006 Author Share Posted June 12, 2006 The offside call is made when the pass is initiated, not when it is received. Example 1 X1............................Y ...................................X2 If X1 passes the ball to X2 at this moment, X2 is offside (Y=defender). Example 2 X1..........................Y ............................X2 If X1 passes the ball to X2 at this moment, he is onside. Once the ball is passed, if Y runs toward X's goal, X2 is still not offside because at the time the pass was initiated, he was onside. Very nice! I understand that... but if I am Y running down the field, what prevents me from stopping and trying to take the ball from X1?? If he then passes it to X2 it would be offsides... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 Very nice! I understand that... but if I am Y running down the field, what prevents me from stopping and trying to take the ball from X1?? If he then passes it to X2 it would be offsides... Nothing. You may get burned if they fail to call the offsides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 0ne Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 (edited) Some real good info here if you have some free time: http://www.soccerhelp.com/Soccer_Tips_Dict...ml#offside_rule They have a simplified version and a detailed version. Or you can get FIFA's official Laws of the Game here: http://www.fifa.com/en/regulations/regulat...,1584,3,00.html Edited June 12, 2006 by Hugh 0ne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
untateve Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 Very nice! I understand that... but if I am Y running down the field, what prevents me from stopping and trying to take the ball from X1?? If he then passes it to X2 it would be offsides... Well, you could do that, but X2 knows that his player is going to chip the ball over your head. So X2 will run with Y, but know that X1 is going to chip it. Knowing that, gives X2 a slight advantage and at this level of soccer, that's all you need. In addition, if Y is running full speed at X1, it will be a simple maneuver for X1 to push the ball to the side and beat Y himself and be on a breakaway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 Well, you could do that, but X2 knows that his player is going to chip the ball over your head. So X2 will run with Y, but know that X1 is going to chip it. Knowing that, gives X2 a slight advantage and at this level of soccer, that's all you need. In addition, if Y is running full speed at X1, it will be a simple maneuver for X1 to push the ball to the side and beat Y himself and be on a breakaway. Good stuff, Unta, very well thought out and explained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundaynfl Posted June 12, 2006 Author Share Posted June 12, 2006 Thanks Unta! I have never been a big soccer fan, but have been amazed at the talent these guys have! I have also started coaching my daughters 4 year old team... imagine, the movie Kicking and Screaming! She wanted me to coach her since I coach my son's baseball team! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
untateve Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 Thanks Unta! I have never been a big soccer fan, but have been amazed at the talent these guys have! I have also started coaching my daughters 4 year old team... imagine, the movie Kicking and Screaming! She wanted me to coach her since I coach my son's baseball team! Here's my advice coaching 4-5 year olds--you work on only two things all year: Using the side of the foot to pass the ball and not the toe and "space." I must have said "Side of Foot" and "Space" a million times when coaching 4-5 year olds. You will not be able to stop the bulk of children this age from bunching up because developmentally, that's where they are at. If you set your goals appropriately, you won't get frustrated. In addition, teach soccer skills by creating fun games. Kids this age are not going to stand in line for drills. If you want to make your life and the players' lives miserable, have them stand in lines waiting to do a drill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicCEO Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 Bunching up is what youth soccer is all about. Any good coach will find himself yelling: - Don't bunch! - Spread out! - Switch up the field! (or some other comment meaning, pass it away from the mass of kids kicking and clawing) ... Until his throat is sore. It won't work... but that's the goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrobn26 Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 Good stuff Unta. But another question: When I played soccer (yes they used a leather ball and not a rock ) the refs were very particular about throw ins. That is both feet had to be firmly, feet parallel, on the ground and the ball had to be released directly over the head. Seems like they loosened that rule. Comments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
untateve Posted June 12, 2006 Share Posted June 12, 2006 Good stuff Unta. But another question: When I played soccer (yes they used a leather ball and not a rock ) the refs were very particular about throw ins. That is both feet had to be firmly, feet parallel, on the ground and the ball had to be released directly over the head. Seems like they loosened that rule. Comments? They loosen the rules if you're a professional or if you are 7 years or younger. Otherwise, I typically see throw ins called pretty tightly. Kind of like walking in basketball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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