spain Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 Monday, 04/09/07 Illegal immigrant pleads guilty, asks for forgiveness in DUI deaths By SHEILA BURKE Staff Writer An illegal immigrant who killed a Mt. Juliet couple in a drunk driving crash asked their family for forgiveness in a Nashville court room this morning while at the same time blaming a system that allowed him to get multiple DUIs previously with little punishment. “I also had six DUIs and I had some days (in jail) but they never really punished me, so they’re partly responsible,” Gustavo Garcia Reyes said before pleading guilty to causing the deaths of Sean and Donna Wilson. In exchange for the guilty plea before Davidson County Criminal Court Judge Randall Wyatt, Reyes received a 25-year prison sentence. He will have to serve 30 percent of the time before being eligible for parole. Reyes, 29, was more than four times over the legal alcohol limit when he caused a two-car accident on Old Hickory Boulevard on June 8, 2006. His case outraged many people because was in the country illegally and he had been arrested at least 14 times before the fatal crash. After the wreck, police said his name was Gustavo Reyes Garcia. In court today, he said his name was actually Garcia Reyes. http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar...NEWS03/70409013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuke'em ttg Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 ........ F'n illegal lightweight.......i'm sick of these little coughsuffers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 Can Bill O'Reilly be far behind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 Can Bill O'Reilly be far behind? This is one area where O'Reilly is spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted April 9, 2007 Author Share Posted April 9, 2007 Can Bill O'Reilly be far behind? Where is Geraldo to defend this poor innocent victim that we enticed to come over here and get 6 DUI's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 Where is Geraldo to defend this poor innocent victim that we enticed to come over here and get 6 DUI's? I forget - why are you willing to look the other way when businesses give out construction jobs to illegals without being punished? Why do you not want to stop the flow of jobs "that Americans won't do" when in fat, many would love to make $12-$15 an hour like some of these companies pay immigrants? How many drunk drivers are illegals compared to legals? Let's pogram the brown skins, they must deserve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuke'em ttg Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 I forget - why are you willing to look the other way when businesses give out construction jobs to illegals without being punished? Why do you not want to stop the flow of jobs "that Americans won't do" when in fat, many would love to make $12-$15 an hour like some of these companies pay immigrants? How many drunk drivers are illegals compared to legals? Let's pogram the brown skins, they must deserve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 The truth sucks sometimes, huh? Fact is, the industry has a problem and we need to stop enticing them with real jobs. The "jobs Americans won't do" idea is pure BS, evidenced by the fact that good jobs are being given to illegals just for starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo mama Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 Make him serve every year. Then deport his ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonorator Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 i'm assuming you all watched this. great heated debate between geraldo and bill. they start off nice and calm and then just get outta control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 Fact is, the industry has a problem and we need to stop enticing them with real jobs. Yep. Putting a stop to illegal hiring (or at least ending the "look the other way" approach) needs to be a big part of it. The "jobs Americans won't do" idea is pure BS, evidenced by the fact that good jobs are being given to illegals just for starters. Not to mention the fact that teenagers have been willing to do labor-intensive jobs as far back as I remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 The truth sucks sometimes, huh? Fact is, the industry has a problem and we need to stop enticing them with real jobs. The "jobs Americans won't do" idea is pure BS, evidenced by the fact that good jobs are being given to illegals just for starters. The problem isn't with the companies as much is it is with the quality of falsified information provided by the illegals to the companies. I'm 99.9% sure we don't have any illegals working for our company, and haven't in the last 20 or so years. The last time we had an illegal working for us was over 20 years ago, and we didn't know he was illegal. It is pretty easy for illegals to get false documentation which is very hard if not impossible for your average Joe Blow business owner to tell if it is authentic or false. Companies just don't knowingly hire illegals anymore. The penalties for doing it are just too high. The problem is the illegals or at least those that are bringing them over and helping them get started are a lot smarter than they used to be. If we want to get serious about illegals, start deporting them in mass, and have the government seize their property and auction it off to help fill the government coffers. In addition to that, give anyone who helps get illegals across the border or helps them falsify documentation a life sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewer Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 Yep. Putting a stop to illegal hiring (or at least ending the "look the other way" approach) needs to be a big part of it. Not to mention the fact that teenagers have been willing to do labor-intensive jobs as far back as I remember. Big problem with todays kids. The illegals will do the jobs that the teenagers used to do, while the kids play on the 'puter and put all of their time into myspace pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 Big problem with todays kids. The illegals will do the jobs that the teenagers used to do, while the kids play on the 'puter and put all of their time into myspace pages. Teenagers need money for college, a car, dating, etc. That need will never go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 i'm assuming you all watched this. great heated debate between geraldo and bill. they start off nice and calm and then just get outta control. I'm disappointed that they'd act like that, especially since I like both of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 Teenagers need money for college, a car, dating, etc. That need will never go away. They will take a job if you give it to them, but they don't really want to work. Most are lazy and not willing to put forth much effort. Give me a good legal immigrant over a teenager any day out on the construction site. What they lack in communication, they more than make up for in work ethic. I'm sure there are tons of teenagers that would line up for a job paying $12-$15 per hour, but the fact of the matter is their production is no where near that of immigrants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted April 9, 2007 Author Share Posted April 9, 2007 I forget - why are you willing to look the other way when businesses give out construction jobs to illegals without being punished? Why do you not want to stop the flow of jobs "that Americans won't do" when in fat, many would love to make $12-$15 an hour like some of these companies pay immigrants? How many drunk drivers are illegals compared to legals? Let's pogram the brown skins, they must deserve it. I never said I was willing to look the other way on businesses hiring wets. They should suffer severe fines and penalties for knowingly hiring illegals. That said, lets deport every illegal and sieze their assets, if any, as well as the assets of the coyotes bringing them across. Third, lets eliminate all welfare and give the jobs the illegals are taking to those formally on the gobement tit. How does that sound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewer Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 I never said I was willing to look the other way on businesses hiring wets. They should suffer severe fines and penalties for knowingly hiring illegals. That said, lets deport every illegal and sieze their assets, if any, as well as the assets of the coyotes bringing them across. Third, lets eliminate all welfare and give the jobs the illegals are taking to those formally on the gobement tit. How does that sound? OK. Now just get one of our elected politicians to propose it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 The problem isn't with the companies as much is it is with the quality of falsified information provided by the illegals to the companies. I'm 99.9% sure we don't have any illegals working for our company, and haven't in the last 20 or so years. The last time we had an illegal working for us was over 20 years ago, and we didn't know he was illegal. It is pretty easy for illegals to get false documentation which is very hard if not impossible for your average Joe Blow business owner to tell if it is authentic or false. Companies just don't knowingly hire illegals anymore. The penalties for doing it are just too high. The problem is the illegals or at least those that are bringing them over and helping them get started are a lot smarter than they used to be. If we want to get serious about illegals, start deporting them in mass, and have the government seize their property and auction it off to help fill the government coffers. In addition to that, give anyone who helps get illegals across the border or helps them falsify documentation a life sentence. While much of what you said is most likely true, the fact is enforcement of said laws is rather minimal so the punishment is never dealt out, which encourages the hiring in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted April 9, 2007 Author Share Posted April 9, 2007 OK. Now just get one of our elected politicians to propose it. True. Good luck with that one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 I never said I was willing to look the other way on businesses hiring wets. With all your Democrat bashing around here, this response proves you're involved in a BALD FACED LLLLIIIIIEEEEE. Thank you for playing. The sauce gets weaker all the time spain. I think you need a break to recharge your batteries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 While much of what you said is most likely true, the fact is enforcement of said laws is rather minimal so the punishment is never dealt out, which encourages the hiring in the first place. The problem with enforcement, is there are no where near enough enforcement officers. While mega-corporations might be able to hire a documentation specialist to monitor the paper work of all the immigrants they have working for them, most small businesses can't afford to do that. If we are going to get rid of the problem, then we need to penalize those that are knowingly breaking the law, not those that are breaking the law because they are not experts in immigration documentation. Like I said, deport all illegals found, seize their assets and auction them off to fill the government coffers, and give coyotes life in prison. Punish those that are knowingly breaking the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 “I also had six DUIs and I had some days (in jail) but they never really punished me, so they’re partly responsible,” Gustavo Garcia Reyes said before pleading guilty to causing the deaths of Sean and Donna Wilson. I call BS on the "they're partly responsible" crap but any system that allows 6 DUIs without incarcerating the offender and throwing the key away needs an overhaul. Automatic confiscation of the car, whoever it belongs to, would be a start too. As for him being illegal, how do you get arrested 14 times and NOT get deported? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 I'm disappointed that they'd act like that, especially since I like both of them. Since this is all Bill O'Reilly can talk about on his radio program, I don't think he is embarrassed about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 (edited) They will take a job if you give it to them, but they don't really want to work. Most are lazy and not willing to put forth much effort. Give me a good legal immigrant over a teenager any day out on the construction site. What they lack in communication, they more than make up for in work ethic. I'm sure there are tons of teenagers that would line up for a job paying $12-$15 per hour, but the fact of the matter is their production is no where near that of immigrants. Offer a legal immigrant minimum wage and he'll most likely go elsewhere for a job. When I was a teenager, none of my friends made anywhere near $12-15 per hour (except for those that sold drugs). You're not going to get high-quality work for $7/hour these days, whether it be 16-year-olds or adults who have children to support. Edited April 9, 2007 by Bill Swerski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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