Randall Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 I'm doing this to acknowledge the grief the family will go though more than honor what he has done. I think this death, like Darrent Williams', also makes us all question why such young people are dying by gunfire and what it means. If life was so bad down there why didn't he leave? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menudo Posted November 28, 2007 Author Share Posted November 28, 2007 I guess that you could call an incident where a guy caught a bullet under questionable circumstances a "tragedy." But, at least as I see it, to be worthy of an honor you have to had done something to warrant it. The guy was a football player. All I know about him is that he had a girlfriend and a baby, and a checkered hostory. I have no idea what he contributed to society. I have no idea if he was even a good father. In short, other than missing his presence on the football field, I don't know why he, as a person, will be missed, other than by perhaps his friends and family You can honor anybosy that you want. If Sean Taylor deserves it though, i suppose that everybody who dies under similar circumstances does. Seems like a lot of honoring to me. Fair enough. Don't use the avatar, don't do anything else to honor him, and move on, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 Fair enough. Don't use the avatar, don't do anything else to honor him, and move on, I guess. You can honor someone's memory, what they mean to you, without validating what they have done wrong in their life. That's often what grieving is about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 Furd, while I understand your thoughts and for similar reasons will not choose to honor his passing, not so sure why you needed challenge these guys for wanting to. These guys want to show compassion for the passing of someone and compassion is rarely misguided. Those of us who see it as a somewhat random gesture can choose not act on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredGSanford Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 How can you actually "grieve" for someone you never knew, never met and probably never would have had a chance to meet? Feeling bad for his family, OK I can understand that. Save the grieving for the people who are nearest and dearest to your heart, i.e. your own family. You guys are all getting a bit carried away with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Trick Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 How can you actually "grieve" for someone you never knew, never met and probably never would have had a chance to meet? Feeling bad for his family, OK I can understand that. Save the grieving for the people who are nearest and dearest to your heart, i.e. your own family. You guys are all getting a bit carried away with this. Sorry i only laugh cause you basically stated word for word what Blitz said about the passing of Barbaro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtra Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 How can you actually "grieve" for someone you never knew, never met and probably never would have had a chance to meet? Feeling bad for his family, OK I can understand that. Save the grieving for the people who are nearest and dearest to your heart, i.e. your own family. You guys are all getting a bit carried away with this. They are paying their respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogohawk Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 Thanks menudo - I'll be using this for this weekend since my team in the 32HomARRRRs is the Redskins and I had him as an IDP in another league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menudo Posted November 28, 2007 Author Share Posted November 28, 2007 How can you actually "grieve" for someone you never knew, never met and probably never would have had a chance to meet? Feeling bad for his family, OK I can understand that. Save the grieving for the people who are nearest and dearest to your heart, i.e. your own family. You guys are all getting a bit carried away with this. Who said we were grieving ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredGSanford Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 You can honor someone's memory, what they mean to you, without validating what they have done wrong in their life. That's often what grieving is about. I think his name is Randall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duchess Jack Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 Its my impression that this guy had a lifestyle that invited something like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 I think his name is Randall. Translation= because a bunch of fantasy guys post a little photo of Sean taylor we are all guilty as Taylor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 No disrespect intended to others in this thread, but I really hope that the NFL waits until the investigation is over and thinks long and hard before deciding about how they honor Taylor's memory. While Taylor's family, friends, teammates, fans, etc. have a multitude of reasons to honor his life, Goodell needs to be very careful here, a his actions could potentially send the wrong message to young athletes. Taylor obviously had many positive qualities, but the fact remains that he was involved in crime (armed assault, DUI... and that's just what we know of) and, at this point, his death seems to be a direct result of his lifestyle. This idiotic "thug life" culture has been a significant problem in certain communities for decades and is now becoming a problem in the NFL. This is the THIRD shooting death of either an NFL player (Derrant Williams) or somebody very closely associated with an NFL player (Tank Johnson's "bodyguard") in just the past 11 months. And all three have (apparently) been the direct result of a confrontation with some idiot thug. The league needs to be very careful in not honoring Taylor to the point where he becomes a martyr for "keepin' it real" at the expense of one's teammates, one's friends, or one's family. In fact, I'd really like to see Goodell implement some sort of "no tolerance" policy for NFL players convicted of any sort of violent crime. I appreciate the way that he's come down harder than Tagliabue did (e.g., Pacman, Chris Henry), but it's apparently not enough. Sadly, it seems that the threat of taking away one's paycheck via banishment from the league may be the only way to get some of these players to disassociate themselves from this culture of stupidity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no one Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 Nice avatar but I have no need to honor a guy that from all accounts was a thug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 0ne Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 No disrespect intended to others in this thread, but I really hope that the NFL waits until the investigation is over and thinks long and hard before deciding about how they honor Taylor's memory. While Taylor's family, friends, teammates, fans, etc. have a multitude of reasons to honor his life, Goodell needs to be very careful here, a his actions could potentially send the wrong message to young athletes. I agree 100%. Not that I'm a fan but if you remember when Chris Benoit, the wrestler, died, they did this hugh tribute to the guy, only to find out the next day that he killed his wife, strangled his son, and then committed suicide. Not trying to draw comparisons with the NFL and WWE, and not insinuating that Taylor did anything wrong, but they should certainly have all the facts before they honor him as a hero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 Furd, while I understand your thoughts and for similar reasons will not choose to honor his passing, not so sure why you needed challenge these guys for wanting to. These guys want to show compassion for the passing of someone and compassion is rarely misguided. Those of us who see it as a somewhat random gesture can choose not act on it. +1, and very well stated. I too have no reason to honor a guy who may have done more harm than good over his life...he had no impact on me, my family, or frankly, anything I stand for. But to post a message that chastizes those that feel they want to honor him is wrong... and frankly, it reeks of a need for attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystykoekaki Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 Nice avatar but I have no need to honor a guy that from all accounts was a thug. Some people get it, then there are others who will ask what "it" was. LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtra Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 (edited) No disrespect intended to others in this thread, but I really hope that the NFL waits until the investigation is over and thinks long and hard before deciding about how they honor Taylor's memory. While Taylor's family, friends, teammates, fans, etc. have a multitude of reasons to honor his life, Goodell needs to be very careful here, a his actions could potentially send the wrong message to young athletes. Taylor obviously had many positive qualities, but the fact remains that he was involved in crime (armed assault, DUI... and that's just what we know of) and, at this point, his death seems to be a direct result of his lifestyle. He made 2 bad choices in his life,that we know of.1 he was trying to get back from thugs what they stole from him and the other was having a few too many drinks and driving which is done by government officials and countless others. He made 2 mistakes that are questionable but not horrific by any stretch of the imagination.He was shot and killed he didnt shoot and kill.I have no problem with anyone honoring him.Who hasnt made a few mistakes in their life? We know of 2 bad things,how many good things did he do that made the front pages?How many more of those are there that we dont know about? Hes the victim in this,not the criminal. If you want to stop sending bad messages to kids,IMHO the first place to start is the media.They will tear apart tragic stories for weeks or months until there is nothing left .Bad news sells and they exploit it at our childrens expense. Edited November 28, 2007 by xtra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredGSanford Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 He made 2 bad choices in his life,that we know of.1 he was trying to get back from thugs what they stole from him and the other was having a few too many drinks and driving which is done by government officials and countless others. Are you forgetting that he spit right in Michael Pittman's face? Any man who would do that to another man is a low quality individual, JMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameltosis Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 I cant for the life of me understand why anyone would have any significant feelings towards someones death they didnt have significant feelings for when they were alive. I also cant understand why someone would care if anyone did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 how many good things did he do that made the front pages. I can't think of one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtra Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 (edited) Are you forgetting that he spit right in Michael Pittman's face? Any man who would do that to another man is a low quality individual, JMHO. Have you ever did anything in the heat of the moment you wouldnt normally do? Edited November 28, 2007 by xtra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtra Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 (edited) I can't think of one. Thats just it,how many good things go under the radar?.What gets more national attention,a celebrity doing something good or a celebrity doing something bad? A good thing you might hear once or never ,a bad thing lingers like a bad smell. Edited November 28, 2007 by xtra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furd Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 (edited) +1, and very well stated. I too have no reason to honor a guy who may have done more harm than good over his life...he had no impact on me, my family, or frankly, anything I stand for. But to post a message that chastizes those that feel they want to honor him is wrong... and frankly, it reeks of a need for attention. I'm not chastizing anyone. I'm just kinda curious why somebody on a FF message board would choose to honor the guy. And even if I did, there's nothing "wrong" with it. Edited November 28, 2007 by Furd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 But when the Cowbys played the Ravens when we had our season tickets I had my vintage Emmitt Jersey on. Since when did Dallas have no "O"? --- Oh, and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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