keggerz Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 cleveland got hosed...that was a force out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 (edited) Oh, man. Cleveland got screwed. That was a force-out. Should have been a touchdown to Winslow on the last play of the game. Can't believe ref didn't call it. Edited December 3, 2007 by CaptainHook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjpro11 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 arizona got hosed the entire game.. tough peaches by the bucket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 don't think so myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 arizona got hosed the entire game.. tough peaches by the bucket surprising coming from you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 don't think so myself loaf, come on. Winslow got one foot down DESPITE the contact. You don't think he COULD have gotten two? That's what determines a force out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbpfan1231 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Not a pushout and I have Winslow on my team. He was fading out of bounds and would have landed out of bounds without any help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 I'm standing by it. I don't think he would've been in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 I agree. It was a force out. This time the ref.s choose NOT to cheat and selectively enforce the rules ... kind of a make up call for earlier in the year when they cheated to review a kick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montster Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 in real time, with one look at the play, i don't think it was that cut and dry. i think it could've gone either way, personally. with multiple reviews you'd have a good argument, but when i saw the play live my first thought was that the official made a good call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbpfan1231 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 I agree. It was a force out. This time the ref.s choose NOT to cheat and selectively enforce the rules ... kind of a make up call for earlier in the year when they cheated to review a kick Oh my god not again. This dude is a complete idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 At the very least force outs should be reviewable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Not a pushout and I have Winslow on my team. He was fading out of bounds and would have landed out of bounds without any help. you are nuts. The safety comes over and blasts him out of bounds. Winslow still gets one foot in. He doesn't get hit by the safety he had a chance to get both feet in. Ref should have called it. Arizona got one of those against Minny a couple years back. Same situation, end of the game, force-out TD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 I agree. It was a force out. This time the ref.s choose NOT to cheat and selectively enforce the rules ... kind of a make up call for earlier in the year when they cheated to review a kick you are such a dick it doesn't matter what you think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 At the very least force outs should be reviewable. agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat2334 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 they got the call right - that WAS NOT A FORCE OUT. no way in hell he gets both feet down in bounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Irish Doggy Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 The second Cardinal that came in clearly changed Winslow's trajectory to out of bounds. I believe he would have made th catch in bounds. Heck, Winslow practically got one foot down anyway. However, as that second Cardinal was "going for the ball", it doesn't count as a force out - I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skippy Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 At the very least force outs should be reviewable. I agree with this. I also agree with Loaf. My boy on the other hand thinks I am crazy seeing it that way and he is pretty good at this calls also. I think that the call on the field would have to stand as there is no way that you could convince me, based on what I saw, that he would have come down in bounds. Close but no way to say for certain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbpfan1231 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 You know it could not have been a force out. Grits said it was a force out and we all know he is a complete idiot so after reviewing the play and seing that Grits saw it and says it was a push out then the play stands as called. No touchdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montster Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 you are nuts. The safety comes over and blasts him out of bounds. Winslow still gets one foot in. He doesn't get hit by the safety he had a chance to get both feet in. Ref should have called it. Arizona got one of those against Minny a couple years back. Same situation, end of the game, force-out TD. i saw winslow and two defenders go up at the same time, with a shove by the defender on winslow at the end. not what i'd call "blasting" him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Irish Doggy Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 At the very least force outs should be reviewable. agreed +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat2334 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 you are nuts. The safety comes over and blasts him out of bounds. Winslow still gets one foot in. He doesn't get hit by the safety he had a chance to get both feet in. Ref should have called it. Arizona got one of those against Minny a couple years back. Same situation, end of the game, force-out TD. not sure what you saw, he didn't even get the 1st foot in............. major stretch to think that was a force out, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Irish Doggy Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 not sure what you saw, he didn't even get the 1st foot in............. major stretch to think that was a force out, Huh? The very definition of a force out involves not getting feet down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystykoekaki Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Force out, he got one foot in and was obviously trying to get both, the defender stopped his progress of the other foot by forcing him out of bounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat2334 Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Huh? The very definition of a force out involves not getting feet down. no chit - was just pointing out that he did not get 1 foot in. There was no way he was getting both feet down- they got it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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