Mitchell report

[isleseeya]

anyone remember Ron Grant??? Guy had arms bigger than my thighs!

He makes the list

 

 

Ron Gant ( he did wear tight uniform for bigger effect i believe )

 

Ron Gant

[isleseeya]

by the way it was before steroid time but Greg Luzinski was a huge baseball player

 

Bull

[Azazello1313]

Add to the list, based upon info I heard from my son's pitching coach who was in MLB (minor leagues, instructional leagues, etc) for 5 or 6 years:

 

Greg Gagne

 

the wrestler? or the slap-hitting shortstop? or do you mean eric gagne?

[classicballer21]

anyone remember Ron Grant??? Guy had arms bigger than my thighs!

He makes the list

 

Brian Giles. i remember reading a stat he hit like 40-50 homeruns one year and then the following years he barely cracked around 20.

[Azazello1313]

i am a rockies fan but it wouldn't totally surprise me to see todd helton mentioned. that one year he had 49 homers, he looked huge. the guy was essentially a line drive gap-type hitter except that season and the one right before it when he hit 42. could be explained by injuries and/or age, but it wouldn't surprise me a bit to learn he was also taking some stuff he shouldn't have been.

[Pope Flick]

As a Mets fan, that's another one that would bug me, although it's the first time I've heard him mentioned in this context - why Pedro? He certainly doesn't have the physique for it.

 

 

The 'physique' for it is one of the largest misconceptions about steroids, especially as used by pitchers. For them, they don't use it to build power through muscle, they use it to replenish strength in order to rest and recuprate faster.

 

In fact, pitchers probably used it to a larger degree than hitters, in part because they didn't need to max it out and show Bonds'like symptoms.

Edited December 13, 2007 by Pope Flick

[budlitebrad]

NEW YORK -- George Mitchell's report on drugs in baseball will finger MVPs and All-Stars and call for beefed-up testing by an outside agency to clean up the game, The Associated Press learned Wednesday.

 

It gets better by the minute.

Edited December 13, 2007 by budlitebrad

[Goopster24]

They are now saying that former MVP's will be on the list. Here is the list of MVP's from the past ten years.

 

1997 Larry Walker, Colorado Rockies, OF Ken Griffey, Jr., Seattle Mariners, OF

1998 Sammy Sosa, Chicago Cubs, OF Juan González, Texas Rangers, OF

1999 Chipper Jones, Atlanta Braves, 3B Iván Rodríguez, Texas Rangers, C

2000 Jeff Kent, San Francisco Giants, 2B Jason Giambi, Oakland Athletics, 1B

2001 Barry Bonds, San Francisco Giants, OF Ichiro Suzuki, Seattle Mariners, OF

2002 Barry Bonds, San Francisco Giants, OF Miguel Tejada, Oakland Athletics, SS

2003 Barry Bonds, San Francisco Giants, OF Alex Rodriguez, Texas Rangers, SS

2004 Barry Bonds, San Francisco Giants, OF Vladimir Guerrero, Anaheim Angels, OF

2005 Albert Pujols, St. Louis Cardinals, 1B Alex Rodriguez, New York Yankees, 3B

2006 Ryan Howard, Philadelphia Phillies, 1B Justin Morneau, Minnesota Twins, 1B

2007 Jimmy Rollins, Philadelphia Phillies, SS Alex Rodriguez, New York Yankees, 3B

 

Obviously Bonds and Giambi, probably Sosa and Gonzalez, maybe Tejada?

Edited December 13, 2007 by Goopster24

[Pope Flick]

They are now saying that former MVP's will be on the list. Here is the list of MVP's from the past ten years.

 

1997 Larry Walker, Colorado Rockies, OF Ken Griffey, Jr., Seattle Mariners, OF

1998 Sammy Sosa, Chicago Cubs, OF Juan González, Texas Rangers, OF

1999 Chipper Jones, Atlanta Braves, 3B Iván Rodríguez, Texas Rangers, C

2000 Jeff Kent, San Francisco Giants, 2B Jason Giambi, Oakland Athletics, 1B

2001 Barry Bonds, San Francisco Giants, OF Ichiro Suzuki, Seattle Mariners, OF

2002 Barry Bonds, San Francisco Giants, OF Miguel Tejada, Oakland Athletics, SS

2003 Barry Bonds, San Francisco Giants, OF Alex Rodriguez, Texas Rangers, SS

2004 Barry Bonds, San Francisco Giants, OF Vladimir Guerrero, Anaheim Angels, OF

2005 Albert Pujols, St. Louis Cardinals, 1B Alex Rodriguez, New York Yankees, 3B

2006 Ryan Howard, Philadelphia Phillies, 1B Justin Morneau, Minnesota Twins, 1B

2007 Jimmy Rollins, Philadelphia Phillies, SS Alex Rodriguez, New York Yankees, 3B

 

Obviously Bonds and Giambi, probably Sosa and Gonzalez, maybe Tejada?

 

 

Rollins. Pople hate to hear it because they want to believe the feel good story, but he'll be there I'll bet.

[Cunning Linguist]

Lenny Dykstra always looked a bit too ripped to be natural IMO.

[Ursa Majoris]

As a Yankee fan, I have my fingers crossed that Jason Giambi will finally be absolved and people will stop pointing fingers at him without any hard evidence.

 

[whomper]

Mo Vaughn

Albert Belle

[isleseeya]

Brady Anderson

 

52 hrs one year and never hit even 20 any other year

[whomper]

I heard on Mike and the Mad Dog that the report comes out at 2 tomorrow

[godtomsatan]

1997 Larry Walker, Colorado Rockies, OF Ken Griffey, Jr., Seattle Mariners, OF

1998 Sammy Sosa, Chicago Cubs, OF Juan González, Texas Rangers, OF

1999 Chipper Jones, Atlanta Braves, 3B Iván Rodríguez, Texas Rangers, C

2000 Jeff Kent, San Francisco Giants, 2B Jason Giambi, Oakland Athletics, 1B

2001 Barry Bonds, San Francisco Giants, OF Ichiro Suzuki, Seattle Mariners, OF

2002 Barry Bonds, San Francisco Giants, OF Miguel Tejada, Oakland Athletics, SS

2003 Barry Bonds, San Francisco Giants, OF Alex Rodriguez, Texas Rangers, SS

2004 Barry Bonds, San Francisco Giants, OF Vladimir Guerrero, Anaheim Angels, OF

2005 Albert Pujols, St. Louis Cardinals, 1B Alex Rodriguez, New York Yankees, 3B

2006 Ryan Howard, Philadelphia Phillies, 1B Justin Morneau, Minnesota Twins, 1B

2007 Jimmy Rollins, Philadelphia Phillies, SS Alex Rodriguez, New York Yankees, 3B

 

I have my suspicions about all of the above.

[godtomsatan]

Brady Anderson

 

I think he's the one that started it all. He had that monster 1996 and bad acne to boot.

[isleseeya]

I think he's the one that started it all. He had that monster 1996 and bad acne to boot.

 

 

yup ..lol on the acne

[dmarc117]

Brady Anderson

 

52 hrs one year and never hit even 20 any other year

 

 

luis gonzalez too.....didnt he have 100 hrs one season then 2 the next?

[whomper]

luis gonzalez too.....didnt he have 100 hrs one season then 2 the next?

 

 

Yep..Brady and Luis have been listed

[dmarc117]

sosa for sure, sources tell me he would always go on the dl before a pee test. i guess u dont get tested if youre on the dl?

[darin3]

Another random guy that might be on the list is Mike sweeney from the Royals..

No frickin' way. No way.

 

Brady Anderson

 

52 hrs one year and never hit even 20 any other year

Yup.

[Controller]

the wrestler? or the slap-hitting shortstop? or do you mean eric gagne?

 

Thanks for catching my error, Az. It was definitely ERIC, the closer for the Dodgers who had the incredible streak a few years back. If he's not on the list, it only means he didn't get caught.

 

On the list of MVP's, I would have to guess that Jeff Kent is a candidate based on his numbers and his attitude. But that is pure supposition on my part.

[budlitebrad]

Scott Ferrall had a good point on Sirius, saying that there will probably be 2 reports. The one Mitchell gave to Selig and the one the public will see. If there is a big enough name on the report that means too much to the sport of baseball (like Ortiz or something), it wouldn't surprise me if they were scratched from the list to protect the game.

[dmarc117]

just on cnbc.......ny post saying clemens on the list.

 

if he is, does he get black balled like barry has been????

[loyalboyd]

So does all these players get the famous "*****" by their name. If you believe they shouldn't why not? I am curious. Shouldn't everyone get the Barry Bonds treatment if they did steroids period?