piratesownninjas Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Speaking of 40 times and their influence, I believe Otah put up a whopping 5.55 in the 40. It would be very surprising I think if he went this high. We'll see how far he falls based on his measurables. 40's are not scrutinized that much for Offensive lineman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturphy Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 40's are not scrutinized that much for Offensive lineman. True, but it all counts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 True, but it all counts. I just don't see a 40 time moving a lineman down that much, if at all. That's like dropping a receiver down the board because he didn't have a lot of reps on the bench press. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturphy Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 (edited) I just don't see a 40 time moving a lineman down that much, if at all. That's like dropping a receiver down the board because he didn't have a lot of reps on the bench press. But, you could see how it might drop him from the Top 5 picks in the draft like Budlitebrad had him, right? That's why I brought it up in the first place. Edited February 25, 2008 by Sturphy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 (edited) I just don't see a 40 time moving a lineman down that much, if at all. That's like dropping a receiver down the board because he didn't have a lot of reps on the bench press. Sorry that's not a great analogy. WRs' strength has become a big selling point / stat. Not saying you'd move down a WR with poor strength a significant amount, but it would come into play if you are comparing one versus another. Â ... and dude, check your PMs! Edited February 25, 2008 by darin3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturphy Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Sorry that's not a great analogy. WRs' strength has become a big selling point / stat. Not saying you'd move down a WR with poor strength a significant amount, but it would come into play if you are comparing one versus another. And ultimately, any really poor score relative to the other players, on any of these events, would pull a guy down. Especially if they're considered 1st round material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Sorry that's not a great analogy. WRs' strength has become a big selling point / stat. Not saying you'd move down a WR with poor strength a significant amount, but it would come into play if you are comparing one versus another. Â ... and dude, check your PMs! Sorry, I should have been a little more clear in my analogy. Otah is 6'6 340 and I don't think he's viewed as a speed lineman, but a mauler. That being said, I don't think his speed comes into play. I was thinking of DeSean Jackson who's niche is as a speed guy, and his bench wouldn't make much of a difference at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Sorry, I should have been a little more clear in my analogy. Otah is 6'6 340 and I don't think he's viewed as a speed lineman, but a mauler. That being said, I don't think his speed comes into play. I was thinking of DeSean Jackson who's niche is as a speed guy, and his bench wouldn't make much of a difference at all. Alright that makes sense, then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 (edited) Alright that makes sense, then. Sometimes I get ahead of myself... But it's OK, I have the Wolf Shirt. Edited February 25, 2008 by piratesownninjas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budlitebrad Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 (edited) Even with his 40 time and lack of experience, teams love his size and his upside. Â I'm not saying that Otah is top 5 or 10 talent, but KC is in a tough spot if they are looking for OT, similar to Arizona last year. The Cards weren't sure who would be there if they had traded down, so they went with Brown earlier than he was probably worth. Edited February 25, 2008 by budlitebrad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturphy Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Even with his 40 time and lack of experience, teams love his size and his upside. I'm not saying that Otah is top 5 or 10 talent, but KC is in a tough spot if they are looking for OT, similar to Arizona last year. The Cards weren't sure who would be there if they had traded down, so they went with Brown earlier than he was probably worth. Fair enough. I could see them reaching for an OT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Watched the combine a bit between college basketball games yesterday. McFadden weighed in at 210 lbs, and turned a 4.33s 40. The more I see of him, the more I think that the trade between MIA & DAL will actually go through, where DAL gives Barber, its 2 1st rounders this year, and another high pick next year for MIA's 1.01 this year. The worst kept secret in the draft this year is probably Jerry Jones' man-crush for McFadden. He's living up to the billing right now. cowboys.com  While Jones did say he looking to "put some 'wow' in this offense" this year, he also downplayed the possibility of packaging draft picks to move up to the top of the draft.  "I don't want to get into a real strategy as far as going forward here in the next few weeks, but I don't see any guy today where we'd make some big trade for the first pick up there," Jones said. "There's absolutely not been one breath of discussion with anybody about going up there to get the one or two or three pick." Jones also was quoted last month stating he had no plans to trade Barber, who isn't the only restricted free agent likely to cash in this season. Canty is expected to get one of the high tenders, possibly the first-round tender at $2.017 million.  take it for what it's worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 cowboys.com While Jones did say he looking to "put some 'wow' in this offense" this year, he also downplayed the possibility of packaging draft picks to move up to the top of the draft.  "I don't want to get into a real strategy as far as going forward here in the next few weeks, but I don't see any guy today where we'd make some big trade for the first pick up there," Jones said. "There's absolutely not been one breath of discussion with anybody about going up there to get the one or two or three pick." Jones also was quoted last month stating he had no plans to trade Barber, who isn't the only restricted free agent likely to cash in this season. Canty is expected to get one of the high tenders, possibly the first-round tender at $2.017 million.  take it for what it's worth. So what if he's there at 4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 So what if he's there at 4? Like I said, take it FWIW.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budlitebrad Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 (edited) DRC ran a 4.28. So much for the Packers taking him. Â Talib - 4.48 Phillips - 4.55 Morgan - 4.52 Edited February 26, 2008 by budlitebrad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturphy Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 DRC ran a 4.28. So much for the Packers taking him. Talib - 4.48 Phillips - 4.55 Morgan - 4.52 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budlitebrad Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Â On the bright side, the CB class as a whole is looking pretty solid. TT should still be able to find a nice prospect or two if he doesn't go DB in round 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturphy Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 On the bright side, the CB class as a whole is looking pretty solid. TT should still be able to find a nice prospect or two if he doesn't go DB in round 1. Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyalboyd Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Anyone see what Calis Campbell ran yestarday. The DE from Miami. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budlitebrad Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Anyone see what Calis Campbell ran yestarday. The DE from Miami. Â An unimpressive 5.03 (unofficial). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawks21 Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 McFadden would be an absolute steal for Barber and two late firsts. The people putting other running backs in front of him are either not all there or are just that stupid. Unbelievable. Have you not been watching the same guy the last three years?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 McFadden would be an absolute steal for Barber and two late firsts. No freakin' way. Even if Dallas was a Mcfadden-type running back away from being a favorite to win the Super Bowl ( which they're not, not even close). Barber's proven what he can do in the NFL. The guy runs like he wants to kill someone everytime he touches the ball. Dallas has a chance to get a good running back with the picks they have now. Was'nt very long ago that alot of people thought that Reggie Bush would be an unstoppable running back in the NFL. Alot of people (including me at the time) thought Houston was insane for passing on him. How'd that work out? Â Barber and 2 firsts.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyalboyd Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 An unimpressive 5.03 (unofficial). Â Thanks needed to know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budlitebrad Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 The running game was the only bright spot in the DAL playoff game, so why not swap out Barber for an unproven rookie and ignore your needs at WR and CB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 McFadden would be an absolute steal for Barber and two late firsts. The people putting other running backs in front of him are either not all there or are just that stupid. Unbelievable. Have you not been watching the same guy the last three years?? Yeah, you of all people are calling Mike Mayock stupid... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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