Yukon Cornelius Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 by the way good back and forth Peace brother not a problem tis fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo mama Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 taxes are evil. but paying taxes is not because it helps others. Taxes aren't evil. You're just cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holy Roller Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 I shot the clerk? I shot the clerk? Great movie. Good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirehairman Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 Well, then your contention is to answer this question with a truth...that there is no truth....so your universal truth is that there is no such thing as a universal truth.....what a conundrum? No. I never stated there is or is not a "truth". I stated that there is no "universally agreed upon" truth. There may be an absolute truth, but if it does exist, there are a myriad of interpretations of that truth based upon culture, society, religion, environment, and ton of other outside influences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheShiznit Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 No. I never stated there is or is not a "truth". I stated that there is no "universally agreed upon" truth. There may be an absolute truth, but if it does exist, there are a myriad of interpretations of that truth based upon culture, society, religion, environment, and ton of other outside influences. The truth is the truth...and any interpretation to the contrary of said truth is due to the ineffectiveness of man...not the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirehairman Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 The truth is the truth...and any interpretation to the contrary of said truth is due to the ineffectiveness of man...not the truth. You got me. I guess I'm saying mankind is ineffective, not perfect by nature, and can't handle the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffraff Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 Killing in the name of religion. Evil or not? Human history glorifies great killers. Be they great leaders or not. Cannibalism. Evil or not? In western culture where a fast food place is on every street corner, perhaps evil. In the middle of the Congo or Serengeti, maybe not. It's a food source. In less than one generation, Lenin and Stalin turned a feudalistic society into the 2nd most dominant force in the world. They just happened to kill 5 or so million of their own people to do so. Was it evil to do so or did they save themselves in the long run? Did the Nazis think of themselves as evil? Do Americans? If a poor man steals medicine to help his ailing wife. Is he evil? It's all a matter of perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isleseeya Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 Killing in the name of religion. Evil or not?Human history glorifies great killers. Be they great leaders or not. EVIL Cannibalism. Evil or not? In western culture where a fast food place is on every street corner, perhaps evil. In the middle of the Congo or Serengeti, maybe not. It's a food source. EVIL ACT , motive not Evil In less than one generation, Lenin and Stalin turned a feudalistic society into the 2nd most dominant force in the world. They just happened to kill 5 or so million of their own people to do so. Was it evil to do so or did they save themselves in the long run? EVIL ACT AND EVIL MOTIVE Did the Nazis think of themselves as evil? Do Americans? EVIL all the way across If a poor man steals medicine to help his ailing wife. Is he evil? ACT IS EVIL , MOTIVE IS NOTE It's all a matter of perspective. Disagree as has been written all over this thread ...its not a matter of perspective ..Their is a concrete real defininition of evil ...there may be many examples where the action is evil but the motive is not but again the action itself is evil answered with my perspectibe directly in above in bold and with this i am probably done as starting to get repetitive and clear not all will agree and thats ok as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirehairman Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 QUOTE(Riffraff @ 3/13/08 3:54pm) Killing in the name of religion. Evil or not? Human history glorifies great killers. Be they great leaders or not. EVIL answered with my perspectibe directly in above in bold and with this i am probably done as starting to get repetitive and clear not all will agree and thats ok as well So God is evil for bring the flood and killing millions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isleseeya Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 answered with my perspectibe directly in above in bold and with this i am probably done as starting to get repetitive and clear not all will agree and thats ok as well So God is evil for bring the flood and killing millions? God killed millions ? I believe he has saved trillions actually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
untateve Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 As a Christian, my definition of evil would be anything that is not pleasing to God. Any thing that would seperate yourself from your relationship with God is evil, such as greed for material things, lust, selfishness, or unwillingness to do God's will. Lust is evil? How far does that go? I sometimes look at my wife in a pretty lustful manner. I'm fixed, so everything that happens after when my lustful needs are satiated is not for procreation. I am all about the lust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirehairman Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 God killed millions ? I believe he has saved trillions actually Nobody died in the flood and everybody made it on the ark? How would you classify it? Non-evil motive but an evil act? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 George W. Bush and Peyton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 Nobody died in the flood and everybody made it on the ark? How would you classify it? Non-evil motive but an evil act? good impaired Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 Lust is evil? How far does that go? I sometimes look at my wife in a pretty lustful manner. I'm fixed, so everything that happens after when my lustful needs are satiated is not for procreation. I am all about the lust. If lusting after untas wife is a sin I am surely going to hell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
untateve Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 If lusting after untas wife is a sin I am surely going to hell right on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 right on! I was going to post a divingboard but given the nature of my post I felt it would be too creepy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isleseeya Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 Nobody died in the flood and everybody made it on the ark? How would you classify it? Non-evil motive but an evil act? I would classify as Old Testament ...which i do not have a problem with but as a Christian its not my doctrine and basis of faith and religion let me say , Tsunami of a few years ago ...many hundreds of thousands people killed ...but in the Christian faith , we are not to sit there and blame God ..rather we say or should say " Bless those who died and made it to Heaven they are with their maker and all is great for them eternally " and Thank God for the time we had with those people Glass should ( and its not easy ) always be half full ....not half empty the end game is not here on earth ...at least not for those who believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isleseeya Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 good impaired did you mean hearing impaired ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 Evil is purposefully harming someone or group, with the sole exception of doing so in order to protect yourself or society. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerry.harris Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 Lust is evil? How far does that go? I sometimes look at my wife in a pretty lustful manner. I'm fixed, so everything that happens after when my lustful needs are satiated is not for procreation. I am all about the lust. Sexual urges towards your wife is not lust. Sex with your wife is permited by God and sex between spouses is a spiritual thing gifted to us by God. Lust, the way i have inturpreted it, is having sexual urges to other women that are not your wife. Looking at another woman and thinking that she is attractive is not lust. Looking at another woman and thinking what you would like to do to her is lust. Hey, i did not say I was not guilty, I am just saying that it is a Biblical evil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 did you mean hearing impaired ? I was just crowbarring my good impaired joke into this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isleseeya Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 I was just crowbarring my good impaired joke into this thread ok what the heck is crowbarring ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 ok what the heck is crowbarring ? Forcing a joke in with a crowbar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted March 13, 2008 Share Posted March 13, 2008 I would classify as Old Testament ...which i do not have a problem with but as a Christian its not my doctrine and basis of faith and religion let me say , Tsunami of a few years ago ...many hundreds of thousands people killed ...but in the Christian faith , we are not to sit there and blame God ..rather we say or should say " Bless those who died and made it to Heaven they are with their maker and all is great for them eternally " and Thank God for the time we had with those people Glass should ( and its not easy ) always be half full ....not half empty the end game is not here on earth ...at least not for those who believe try to separate what is evil and what is not from youre religious views... i know its hard and scary but try it ... isnt man evil buy nature?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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