Perchoutofwater Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Acording to this on September 8, 2009 BHO will address the nations students, can anyone confirm or debunk this? If this is true, how do you feel about your child or grandchild having to watch this? Should it be optional? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
posty Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 It is true... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caddyman Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Acording to this on September 8, 2009 BHO will address the nations students, can anyone confirm or debunk this? If this is true, how do you feel about your child or grandchild having to watch this? Should it be optional? As long as the content is bland(I think it will be), it should absolutely not be optional. This is a major honor for any kid to be involved in. He is the freaking president of the US. All presidents should be respected by our children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westvirginia Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 As long as the content is bland(I think it will be), it should absolutely not be optional. This is a major honor for any kid to be involved in. He is the freaking president of the US. All presidents should be respected by our children. NOT optional? Dude, you want liberty, but only when it suits your idea of right or wrong? I should have the right to tune out the prez or any politician at any time, and to indicate that my child will be tuning it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caddyman Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 NOT optional? Dude, you want liberty, but only when it suits your idea of right or wrong? I should have the right to tune out the prez or any politician at any time, and to indicate that my child will be tuning it out. Does your kid get to choose if he listens to the principal at the school speak at assembly? For crying out loud, as long as this is not a policy speech, yes your kid should have to listen. Dude, I hate the guy and so does my son, but he would be listening out of respect for the OFFICE. Get a grip man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duchess Jack Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 He is our president. I see no problem with this at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted September 2, 2009 Author Share Posted September 2, 2009 As long as the content is bland(I think it will be), it should absolutely not be optional. This is a major honor for any kid to be involved in. He is the freaking president of the US. All presidents should be respected by our children. How is it an honor? Is it an honor for all of us to watch a presidential address on TV? I don't believe it is an exclusive group, as matter of fact I believe it is pretty much everybody 6th grade and younger. Where is the honor? Is the honor in being forced to watch it? I agree the office of the President of the United States should be respected by our children and every American. It is shame that so many on the left are just now adopting this train of thought. Still that doesn't mean we should, or our children should be forced to listen to him if we do not desire to do so. Personally I'd love to hear what he has to say, though I doubt I will agree with much of anything he says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimC Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 (edited) Is this where he apologizes for the parents of today that absolutely despise their own children because they have bankrupted them for their own short-term gain? Lttle Jimmy and Cindy...here's why Mommy and Daddy have always hated you..... Edited September 2, 2009 by TimC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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westvirginia Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Does your kid get to choose if he listens to the principal at the school speak at assembly? For crying out loud, as long as this is not a policy speech, yes your kid should have to listen. Dude, I hate the guy and so does my son, but he would be listening out of respect for the OFFICE. Get a grip man. So then we should all be good little citizens and bow to the president, no matter whom it is or what he does? Good to know komrade. I wonder how much money ursa's son would take to beat you like you stole something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duchess Jack Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 (edited) I agree the office of the President of the United States should be respected by our children and every American. It is shame that so many on the left are just now adopting this train of thought. Man, you are such a characature of a talk radio fan. What is the big problem with this? What possible harm could come from it? He is our president. We're talking about people in an institution of learning. I imagine we're talking about schools recieving public funds right now - but even if its all schools - what's the harm. Give the kids something to talk about and think on. They can talk about it with their teachers and parents. At least it opens conversation. I'd have no problem if Bush did this. As for respecting the office - have you seen all the lunitics going crazy at town halls? When Bush was president people with anti-Bush t-shirts were escorted out of speeches. We're talking Bush's name with a line through it. When Obama is president - its all good for people to being assalt rifles to his speeches. There is such a crazy double standard. Whatever the case - people need to start focusing on the important issues rather than trying to derail the country at every chance. Focus on the 95% of things people agree on then the 5% that we don't agree on because if we don't than the 95% we agree on gets pissed away for goodness sake. Edited September 2, 2009 by Duchess Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Man, you are such a characature of a talk radio fan. What is the big problem with this? What possible harm could come from it? He is our president. We're talking about people in an institution of learning. I imagine we're talking about schools recieving public funds right now - but even if its all schools - what's the harm. Give the kids something to talk about and think on. They can talk about it with their teachers and parents. At least it opens conversation. I'd have no problem if Bush did this. As for respecting the office - have you seen all the lunitics going crazy at town halls? When Bush was president people with anti-Bush t-shirts were escorted out of speeches. We're talking Bush's name with a line through it. When Obama is president - its all good for people to being assalt rifles to his speeches. There is such a crazy double standard. Whatever the case - people need to start focusing on the important issues rather than trying to derail the country at every chance. Focus on the 95% of things people agree on then the 5% that we don't agree on because if we don't than the 95% we agree on goes to just order the fish for goodness sake. +1 Very well said. My school had presidential addresses that we had to watch. It was in class so we could learn what it meant to be a citizen of the US and become an INFORMED member of society. But I guess if the president is a democrat than it doesnt apply, right guys? Then it is "communist" . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westvirginia Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 (edited) +1 Very well said. My school had presidential addresses that we had to watch. It was in class so we could learn what it meant to be a citizen of the US and become an INFORMED member of society. But I guess if the president is a democrat than it doesnt apply, right guys? Then it is "communist" . . . Oh yes, because "education" is truly the goal of gov't schools... "The aim of public education is not to spread enlightenment at all: it is simply to reduce as many individuals as possible to the same safe level, to breed a standard citizenry, to put down dissent and originality." "And what is a good citizen? Simply one who never says, does or thinks anything that is unusual. Schools are maintained in order to bring this uniformity up to the highest possible point. A school is a hopper into which children are heaved while they are still young and tender; therein they are pressed into certain standard shapes and covered from head to heels with official rubber-stamps." ETA - Quote's are H.L. Menken's Edited September 2, 2009 by westvirginia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geeteebee Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 (edited) If a school decides to show this and make it mandatory for the students then it is fine with me. However, that is up to each school to decide. No different than a school or class assigning homework of watching the state of the union address, which I had to do many times growing up. Edited September 2, 2009 by geeteebee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 I rather clearly remember many times during my childhood having to sit in assembly and listen to some address from the POTUS on TV. It happened with both Carter and Reagan. Being a kid, I couldn't have given two poops about what either had to say, frankly, but I didn't see it that much different than any other thing they made us do. Hell, they made us and listen to far less important dudes than Obama. Like caddyman says, if dude is going to try to cram ideology down their throats, that's one thing. But I've got to think this is some vanilla crap about how anyone can be POTUS if they want and you just need to keep your head up and be the best you can, blah, blah. In other words, pretty much the same stuff Reagan and Carter were telling me. Big freaking deal. Perch, you're digging deeper and deeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted September 2, 2009 Author Share Posted September 2, 2009 I would have no problem if his discussion with the student revolved around the history of the presidency. I have a major problem if he is going to pimp policy to the students, as that is nothing more than indoctrination which is the problem so many of us have with public education to begin with. I can just see it now, Daddy how come people don't want some people to have health care? I recall seeing the State of the Union address in government class in high school, not as an elementary school student. I also recall that after the state of the union address, we watched the opposing party give rebuttal. What are the chances that there will be a conservative on after BHO to give a rebuttal? I'm already pissed at the school system anyway for making 3rd grader think she is going to die of the swine flu if she gets it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicCEO Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Oh yes, because "education" is truly the goal of gov't schools... ETA - Quote's are H.L. Menken's [/indent] I don't think they are forcing home-schooled kids to watch. You can keep raising your kids to be unibombers if that's what you choose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duchess Jack Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 WV. I guess that is one way to look at it. How would you like to see schools run? How would you fix this problem? Math and English seem important. History and Science seem important. I can see where one might take issue with who the history is written by - but how would you fix this problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Oh yes, because "education" is truly the goal of gov't schools... ETA - Quote's are H.L. Menken's [/indent] You are right! Screw school! All they do is teach the ideology of the day and provide nothing useful! Your ridiculous statements push you further and further to the lunatic fringe with perch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted September 2, 2009 Author Share Posted September 2, 2009 Like caddyman says, if dude is going to try to cram ideology down their throats, that's one thing. But I've got to think this is some vanilla crap about how anyone can be POTUS if they want and you just need to keep your head up and be the best you can, blah, blah. In other words, pretty much the same stuff Reagan and Carter were telling me. Big freaking deal. If that is all it is, I have no problem with it. If my kid comes home talking about the environment, health care, or how we need to raise taxes so we can do more to support those who will not do for themselves then I have a hugh problem with it, particularly if there is no rebuttal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duchess Jack Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Daddy how come people don't want some people to have health care? Well than that would afford you an excellent oppertunity, wouldn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westvirginia Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 OK, so kids can be forced to say the pledge then? Forced to take some psychotropic med because the teacher doesn't want to deal with them? Where's the line? I honestly don't care who the president is. Just another reason my kids will not go to public schools until they can present a clear, compelling and logical reason for wanting to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted September 2, 2009 Author Share Posted September 2, 2009 WV. I guess that is one way to look at it. How would you like to see schools run? How would you fix this problem? Math and English seem important. History and Science seem important. I can see where one might take issue with who the history is written by - but how would you fix this problem? Maybe take it down the the local level? Let the local school districts decide what is being taught to their kids. Get rid of all federal funding of education and allow the states and local communities to fund their schools instead of funding the neighboring states after uncle same has taken his cut off the top to pay for his bureaucracy. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duchess Jack Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 OK, so kids can be forced to say the pledge then? Forced to take some psychotropic med because the teacher doesn't want to deal with them? Where's the line? I honestly don't care who the president is. Just another reason my kids will not go to public schools until they can present a clear, compelling and logical reason for wanting to do so. Where is this all coming from? Who is forcing kids ot take meds? Who is forcing the kids to pledge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted September 2, 2009 Author Share Posted September 2, 2009 Well than that would afford you an excellent oppertunity, wouldn't it? The problem is a third grader is like a liberal, they rarely understand logic, just feelings. I'd rather not have bang my head against that wall until she had developed more logic and can actually put thought ahead of emotions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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