Egret Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 sweet. this might be enough to turn wiegie into a lions fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Fan Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 If Barrack was bashed this bad, would you Rush Haters call that RACIST? The President is bashed this bad - EVERY DAY. BY RUSH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mucca Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 (edited) The President is bashed this bad - EVERY DAY. BY RUSH. That wasn't my question. Or should I say Typical democratic answer to my question. Edited October 8, 2009 by The Mucca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 If Barrack was bashed this bad, would you Rush Haters call that RACIST? Oh goodie, the lets complain about the double standard by pulling the race card schtick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Fan Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 That wasn't my question.Or should I say Typical democratic answer to my question. What does that even mean? That I interjected some logic? Of course Rush and every citizen has the right to criticize the President. Criticizing the President doesn't make you a racist. And criticizing Rush doesn't make me prejudiced against fat, drug-addicted idiots. I just happen to think he demeans the entire process. We as an electorate deserve better. FWIW, I also think Bill Mahr is a horse's rear-end. Whatever happened to civil discourse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mucca Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 What does that even mean? That I interjected some logic? Of course Rush and every citizen has the right to criticize the President. Criticizing the President doesn't make you a racist. And criticizing Rush doesn't make me prejudiced against fat, drug-addicted idiots. I just happen to think he demeans the entire process. We as an electorate deserve better. FWIW, I also think Bill Mahr is a horse's rear-end. Whatever happened to civil discourse? Get real, anytime someone disagrees with Barrack, they are deemed by the press to be Racist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Fan Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Get real, anytime someone disagrees with Barrack, they are deemed by the press to be Racist. Typical Republican response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mucca Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Typical Republican response. Yeah The Truth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Fan Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Yeah The Truth Because Republicans never lie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Get real, anytime someone disagrees with Barrack, they are deemed by the press to be Racist. No they aren't, that's just your po' l'il victim mentality (such as it is) at work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosGatosEnFuegos Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 That wasn't my question.Or should I say Typical democratic answer to my question. The answer was not a typical democratic answer. It was a typical political answer; it did not address the question. However, to answer your initial question, in a word, no. If you dislike Obama based on his governing, fine. You can say whatever you like. I encourage you to. I will also encourage you to do so in a productive way, as I do with Obama, did with Bush, and did with Clinton. (I was too young to do so with H.W.) However, if you bring race into it, well, don't cry to me if people call you a racist. I'm not saying that race can't be discussed, but there are appropriate times and places for it. When it's in regard to the president's governing, it probably doesn't have a place. As for Rush, I don't hate him necessarily because of his views. I dislike Rush because he is a major player in the circus that has become political reporting. I don't think that entertainment and politics play well together. In fact, very few things play well with politics. But while I have an active distaste for Rush and Beck, I also don't care for Maddow or Olbermann. They have no real purpose. They don't report much. They offer up nothing more than politically inspired tripe. They are polarizing entertainers. They give people an external outlet for their internal anger and offer an easy and damaging way for people to feel like they have shared beliefs and care about politics without having to do anything like, you know, think. Back on topic, I would treat Rush's Rams as I treat Vick's Eagles. You can have a team. I'm just never going to support it. I will not watch the games. While I'm not in danger of ever wanting to go to a Ram or Eagle home game (as I rarely find myself in Philly and have never found myself in St. Louis), I will probably also never buy tickets to or attend a Giant or Jet game where they are the away team. I'm very lenient when it comes to what kind of behavior I will endure from people. But there are just certain things I don't tolerate. I'm leaving the door open for Vick to prove himself as an upstanding person. He's young and may turn over a new page. The door is also open for Rush, but I just don't think he has it in him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mucca Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 The answer was not a typical democratic answer. It was a typical political answer; it did not address the question. However, to answer your initial question, in a word, no. If you dislike Obama based on his governing, fine. You can say whatever you like. I encourage you to. I will also encourage you to do so in a productive way, as I do with Obama, did with Bush, and did with Clinton. (I was too young to do so with H.W.) However, if you bring race into it, well, don't cry to me if people call you a racist. I'm not saying that race can't be discussed, but there are appropriate times and places for it. When it's in regard to the president's governing, it probably doesn't have a place. As for Rush, I don't hate him necessarily because of his views. I dislike Rush because he is a major player in the circus that has become political reporting. I don't think that entertainment and politics play well together. In fact, very few things play well with politics. But while I have an active distaste for Rush and Beck, I also don't care for Maddow or Olbermann. They have no real purpose. They don't report much. They offer up nothing more than politically inspired tripe. They are polarizing entertainers. They give people an external outlet for their internal anger and offer an easy and damaging way for people to feel like they have shared beliefs and care about politics without having to do anything like, you know, think. Back on topic, I would treat Rush's Rams as I treat Vick's Eagles. You can have a team. I'm just never going to support it. I will not watch the games. While I'm not in danger of ever wanting to go to a Ram or Eagle home game (as I rarely find myself in Philly and have never found myself in St. Louis), I will probably also never buy tickets to or attend a Giant or Jet game where they are the away team. I'm very lenient when it comes to what kind of behavior I will endure from people. But there are just certain things I don't tolerate. I'm leaving the door open for Vick to prove himself as an upstanding person. He's young and may turn over a new page. The door is also open for Rush, but I just don't think he has it in him. I agree with most of what you are saying except your answer to my original question. I don't hate Barrack the person, just his policies. The far left media plays the Race card all the time when they disagree with Barrack, that is a fact, and that is what my original question was all about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Fan Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 I agree with most of what you are saying except your answer to my original question. I don't hate Barrack the person, just his policies.The far left media plays the Race card all the time when they disagree with Barrack, that is a fact, and that is what my original question was all about. See, what he's saying is that this is just not true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Absolutely he would. He got fired from the booth but now he's good enough of a guy to own a team? Plus as we have now experienced, it isn't easy to get rid of an owner just because he's stupid or senile. You can't fire the owner after he makes a statement that he shouldn't make. That whole deal was b.s. for Rush. ESPN is run by, and employs, a bunch of spineless jagoffs. BTW, I think Rush a ginormous twat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Fan Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 That whole deal was b.s. for Rush. ESPN is run by, and employs, a bunch of spineless jagoffs. BTW, I think Rush a ginormous twat. I agree. I think ESPN used the McNabb thing as a convenient excuse to correct what they realized was a horrible, horrible mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosGatosEnFuegos Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 I agree with most of what you are saying except your answer to my original question. I don't hate Barrack the person, just his policies.The far left media plays the Race card all the time when they disagree with Barrack, that is a fact, and that is what my original question was all about. Your initial question was not would the far left media call it racist. You asked if Rush haters would call it racist. And I answered that no, I would not, if he were being bashed for his governing. If he were being bashed for his race, yes, I would call that racist because that's precisely what racism is. Rush is being bashed largely for what he does for his profession. It's like hating on a pimp. That's how he spends his days, and it's sleazy. The bashing for his drug history I don't particularly care for. If you want to point out his hypocrisy, you can use his drug addiction and the subsequent investigation as evidence. But I don't think that "he used drugs" is much of an argument against a man. Also, not to be a rabble-rouser, but it's spelled Barack. I don't nitpick spelling and grammar, but it's about showing the respect to spell the President of the United States' name correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiegie Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 sweet. this might be enough to turn wiegie into a lions fan I actually made the same joke today at work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turf Smurf Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 civil [/i]discourseWhatever happened to ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turf Smurf Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Back on topic, I would treat Rush's Rams as I treat Vick's Eagles. You can have a team. I'm just never going to support it. I will not watch the games. While I'm not in danger of ever wanting to go to a Ram or Eagle home game (as I rarely find myself in Philly and have never found myself in St. Louis), I will probably also never buy tickets to or attend a Giant or Jet game where they are the away team. I'm very lenient when it comes to what kind of behavior I will endure from people. But there are just certain things I don't tolerate. I'm leaving the door open for Vick to prove himself as an upstanding person. He's young and may turn over a new page. The door is also open for Rush, but I just don't think he has it in him. So, Rush has a talk show, and some how because of this, he's the same as a brutal animal torturing abusing ass hole? Now that's DEMOCRATIC thinking. go donkeys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turf Smurf Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 If Rush wants to own the tean and be involved, I don't see the problem. Except maybe,,,,,,,,,there HAS to be a better team out there..............guess we'll see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turf Smurf Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Sorry, may have been to harsh, and I missed your name.. It neans cat on fire....no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medal of Honor Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 While several blowhards own NFL teams, I'm pretty sure a lot of fans and the NFL itself would prefer those blowhards to not be known primarily for their politics. There is a reason most people are smart enough not to mix politics in the work place. That being said, Michael Moore or Rush should have the right to inquire purchasing any NFL team. I'm just glad neither is interested in my favorite team. Who's your favorite team? I'll call Nancy Pelosi up right now. Her husband already owns a UFL team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Who's your favorite team? Wheee...the Seahawks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosGatosEnFuegos Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 So, Rush has a talk show, and some how because of this, he's the same as a brutal animal torturing abusing ass hole? Now that's DEMOCRATIC thinking. go donkeys. I find what Rush does to be morally reprehensible, yes. He encourages emotional, gut reactions, often skewed toward intolerance and ignorance. He gives his base a false sense that the far right wing thinking he spews on his show (and doesn't necessarily ascribe to, mind you) is mainstream thinking. He is incendiary on topics that deserve reasoned discussion. He is a bastion of pathos of logos, more akin to advertising than political and social discourse. But I will grant you that my disagreement with his ethos does affect my judgment. Is he on the level of VIck? I'm not necessarily saying he is. I'm not necessarily saying he isn't. But they are two people who I feel have crossed a moral line. After they crossed it, I stopped measuring how far they went beyond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosGatosEnFuegos Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 Sorry, may have been to harsh, and I missed your name.. It neans cat on fire....no? No worries brotha. I'm not very easily provoked...at least not tonight. Yeah, it's along the lines of "the cats in flames" or "the cats on fire". I don't hablo much Espanol, so I don't know how it translates directly or if it's even correct in construction. But it's got a nice ring to it and includes a nod to Dan Patrick. How can you go wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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