untateve Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 The bottom line is that the obamessiah could back the congress into a corner and say publicly that he wants the debate to be transparent. He isn't doing that because he's as big of a liar as everyone else who's held that office this century. Like, Have to agree here schitck and stuff. I assert that if it was a repub white house, you would be all over the repub president for lying about transparency. Of course, the repubs on this board would then create reasons why the repub president could not be transparent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cre8tiff Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 I assert that if it was a repub white house, you would be all over the repub president for lying about transparency. Of course, the repubs on this board would then create reasons why the repub president could not be transparent. Yin and Yang, baby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westvirginia Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 (edited) I assert that if it was a repub white house, you would be all over the repub president for lying about transparency. Of course, the repubs on this board would then create reasons why the repub president could not be transparent. But shrubwhacked-girl can't be honest about "his" guy. Yin and Yang, baby. Yeah, that's gonna fix things. ;whining;"But they're too partisan!" "No, THEY'RE too partisan";/whining; Edited January 6, 2010 by westvirginia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Fox has been caught twice in the last few months running misleading videos with their news stories. Can youvname another network that's done the same? Can you name or demonstrate that another network uses itself as anonymous sources for their own newscasts? If you can' I'd like for you to show it to me. If not, you are ignoring reality. CBS right before the 2004 elections Oh wait never mind, you said misleading, CBS reports were flat out lies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 I assert that if it was a repub white house, you would be all over the repub president for lying about transparency. Of course, the repubs on this board would then create reasons why the repub president could not be transparent. Let's make this clear then. Obama is at fault for not living up to his transparency in health care campaign promise amongst other things. Does the stuff he faltered on thus far make him a big of a liar as Warren Harding, Richard Nixon, or even Clinton's BJ denial? That is simple minded over dramatic schtick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Let's make this clear then. Obama is at fault for not living up to his transparency in health care campaign promise amongst other things. Does the stuff he faltered on thus far make him a big of a liar as Warren Harding, Richard Nixon, or even Clinton's BJ denial? That is simple minded over dramatic schtick. But it is over an issue that will have a much greater effect on all of us than Clinton's BJ denial. Particularly if the libs get their way and make it so the legislation can not be reversed by future congresses. (Which is one of several Constitutional questions the health care reform bill will probably raise). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
posty Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 See Eight Clips of Obama Promising Televised Healthcare Negotiations... http://www.breitbart.tv/the-c-span-lie-did...e-negotiations/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 when can we get back to worrying about gheys adopting babies, getting married, guns being taken away and abortions?? those are the real issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 I'm going to play the part of perch here: how often ARE congressional negotiations held in public, compared to congressional deliberations? I'm thinking on the whole, not very often. And if so, this was a dumb promise to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil_gop_liars Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 when can we get back to worrying about gheys adopting babies, getting married, guns being taken away and abortions?? those are the real issues. Once the teapraybaggers build a full body scanning machine that fits around the capital building so they can see Barney Frank's underwear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westvirginia Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Let's make this clear then. Obama is at fault for not living up to his transparency in health care campaign promise amongst other things. Does the stuff he faltered on thus far make him a big of a liar as Warren Harding, Richard Nixon, or even Clinton's BJ denial? That is simple minded over dramatic schtick. And this doesn't concern you? Not even a little bit? Fedgov, which does NOTHING right, is making its first move in taking over 1/7th of the economy and controlling your access to medical care, and it's making this move in secret. And you're OK with that? NOBODY should be OK with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
policyvote Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Fedgov, which does NOTHING right This is the fundamental problem. If you think "Fedgov" does nothing right, wait until you take a look at "Stategov", or God help you, "Localgov". Also, if the free market were so totally successful, Fedgov wouldn't have had to step in. Peace policy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted January 6, 2010 Author Share Posted January 6, 2010 how about ALLgov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
policyvote Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 how about ALLgov Yeah, because if the financial sector and manufacturing sector had completely collapsed simultaneously, and only people with jobs could get health care they could even pretend to afford, that would have been so great. Peace policy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted January 6, 2010 Author Share Posted January 6, 2010 Yeah, because if the financial sector and manufacturing sector had completely collapsed simultaneously, and only people with jobs could get health care they could even pretend to afford, that would have been so great. Peace policy banking needed to be bailed out, manufacturing not so much. and its how they bailed them out that reeks. had no clue. still dont. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 how about ALLgov Because the free market has been doing such a bang-up job lately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted January 6, 2010 Author Share Posted January 6, 2010 http://www.breitbart.tv/the-c-span-lie-did...e-negotiations/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westvirginia Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 Don't misunderstand, I'm not saying there should be NO government, but seeing as how it's track record is much worse than a truly free market, gov should be limited as much as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
posty Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 http://www.breitbart.tv/the-c-span-lie-did...e-negotiations/ Psst... 10 posts above yours... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarc117 Posted January 6, 2010 Author Share Posted January 6, 2010 Psst... 10 posts above yours... it deserves multiple posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
posty Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 it deserves multiple posts. Can't argue with that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 And this doesn't concern you? Not even a little bit? Sure it does, he made a commitment that he didn't live up to. Now, how much would the legislation have been altered if on C-span? I doubt at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 . Now, how much would the legislation have been altered if on C-span? I doubt at all. I doubt it would be altered, but the under the table dealings would be exposed, and Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck would have programming set for the next 2 months . . . or until Obama orders Chinese food and is deemed a communist again . . . . whatever comes first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 And this doesn't concern you? Not even a little bit? Fedgov, which does NOTHING right, is making its first move in taking over 1/7th of the economy and controlling your access to medical care, and it's making this move in secret. And you're OK with that? NOBODY should be OK with that. I think you may want to start looking into moving. you are not a true patriot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted January 6, 2010 Share Posted January 6, 2010 I call BS on taking over 1/7th of the economy claim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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