Hat Trick Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Dan Marino Steve Young Michael Irvin Derrick Thomas ( my personal favorite, see avatar ) Those 4 all made the final 15 in their 1st year entry. Fritz Pollard Benny Friedman Harry Carson Richard Dent L.C. Greenwood Russ Grimm Claude Humphrey Bob Kuechenberg Art Monk Roger Wehrli George Young http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1964413 What a list! I hope the top 4 all get in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rock Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Marino and Young have to be LOCKS. Irvin and Thomas probably make it.. i think George Young is a pretty safe bet too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Irvin and Thomas probably make it.. 650964[/snapback] I'm not so sure about Irvin. If Monk still has yet to get in, I think that it might take a while for Irvin to be inducted, if he is at all. While Irvin was very good, he clearly wasn't the best amongst his peers at the time (Rice, Carter, Brown, Reed). And he's certainly not as good as a lot of the guys who began their careers towards the end of his (Moss, Harrison, TO). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolv Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 I'm not so sure about Irvin. If Monk still has yet to get in, I think that it might take a while for Irvin to be inducted, if he is at all. While Irvin was very good, he clearly wasn't the best amongst his peers at the time (Rice, Carter, Brown, Reed). And he's certainly not as good as a lot of the guys who began their careers towards the end of his (Moss, Harrison, TO). 651103[/snapback] While I agree, the fact he has 3 Super Bowl rings will help him out.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pork chop express Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 I'm not so sure about Irvin. If Monk still has yet to get in, I think that it might take a while for Irvin to be inducted, if he is at all. While Irvin was very good, he clearly wasn't the best amongst his peers at the time (Rice, Carter, Brown, Reed). And he's certainly not as good as a lot of the guys who began their careers towards the end of his (Moss, Harrison, TO). 651103[/snapback] I am hoping this is the year that Monk finally makes it. I think that D Thomas is questionable. Did he have the numbers? Granted his life and career were cut short, but I am thinking he is on the outside of the fense looking in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaumont Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 I am hoping this is the year that Monk finally makes it. I think that D Thomas is questionable. Did he have the numbers? Granted his life and career were cut short, but I am thinking he is on the outside of the fense looking in. 651154[/snapback] Unfortunately, I agree that DT is probably not in this year. Irvin has a much better chance due to the rings. However, eventually DT will get in I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunysteelfly76 Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 I don't understand how Monk isn't in already. He is 5th all time in receptions and 8th all time in yardage. At one point he was the all time receptions leader. The only thing I can see why he wouldn't be in is that he only scored 68 TD's(just over 4 per year av), and that is a weak arguement considering his other accomplishments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Monk should be in. If Hampton is in, Dent should be too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTheWebToedBoy Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 I see Marino as a lock. Irvin was good, and he has 3 rings but his past will keep him out this year. I think he belongs there, but not this year Young, personally, I don't think he belongs there. Just my opinion Thomas has a shot, he was good, but I think some of the others deserve it more Dan Marino Art Monk L.C. Greenwood George Young would be my choices Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 I don't understand how Monk isn't in already. He is 5th all time in receptions and 8th all time in yardage. At one point he was the all time receptions leader. 651173[/snapback] Agreed... If Hampton is in, Dent should be too. 651197[/snapback] ... and agreed. The two obvious locks are Marino and Young. IMO, the others are iffy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down Goes Frazia Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Irvin is a lock IMO. 3 rings...... 75 freak'in TD's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarge5121976 Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Irvin is a lock IMO. 3 rings...... 75 freak'in TD's. 651420[/snapback] Don't forget 10 hookers and 2 eight balls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Dan Marino. Richard Dent L.C. Greenwood Art Monk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Don't forget 10 hookers and 2 eight balls. 651428[/snapback] this could be DT also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolverines Fan Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 Monk should be in. If Hampton is in, Dent should be too. 651197[/snapback] Agree. Monk should have gotten in there a while ago. You're right about Dent, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skilly Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 Has anyone here actually been to the Hall of Fame? I have been there twice, back in the early 90s. While I was there, they had Art Monk's jersey hanging in a display case---I believe for all time receptions leader. For crying out loud, the guy deserves to be enshrined already! I don't think D. Thomas gets in this time, but may in the future. What happened to Gary Zimmerman? He was eligible the last two years in a row, and now he doesn't make the top 15? How does that happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 Don't forget 10 hookers and 2 eight balls. 651428[/snapback] And one fine, fine pimp outfit, complete with mink coat, in his court appearances. IIRC, the Dallas area judge LOVED that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herdmaster Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 Irvin's numbers would have been much better had the Cowboys not run the ball 55-60% of the time. Irvin was the "Original" physical receiver. You couldn't play press coverage on him...he'd abuse you, and if you played off him too far, he was a good enough runner after the catch to go the distance on any given play. I also agree on Monk, great receiver, and a real class act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 Irvin was the "Original" physical receiver. You couldn't play press coverage on him...he'd abuse you, and if you played off him too far, he was a good enough runner after the catch to go the distance on any given play. 652220[/snapback] That is true. Irvin paved the way for big, physical guys like Keyshawn and TO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat Face Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 Marino and Young are locks. Monk deserves in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat Face Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 Young, personally, I don't think he belongs there. Just my opinion 651209[/snapback] WHY?!?!?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTheWebToedBoy Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 WHY?!?!?!?! 652247[/snapback] Just seems to me that he gets Montana pushed out, inherits a SB caliber team that he takes to the SB, once, and then, nothing... I just never thought he was as good as the players around him. That and the way Montana was pushed aside. Again, just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 I don't understand how Monk isn't in already. He is 5th all time in receptions and 8th all time in yardage. At one point he was the all time receptions leader. The only thing I can see why he wouldn't be in is that he only scored 68 TD's(just over 4 per year av), and that is a weak arguement considering his other accomplishments. 651173[/snapback] SI's Paul Zimmerman proffers the argument that "Art Monk's career is 800 7 yd hitches"; looking at his td totals and ypc, I think that knock bears some merit. Besides, it took James Lofton (who for a time was #1 in rec yds and hung around at #2 after Rice passed him for quite a while before dropping to #3, where NOBODY looks to be coming up on him anytime soon) probably near 10 years to get in, and I'd argue he was a better WR, with more impressive stats, than Monk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 Oh, I'd go Marino, Young, Dent, and Carson myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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