Lippy225 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Take away the Chicago game and he is average at best. I expected so much more (WR1-2 type stats for that high a pick) A young Antonio Gates he is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electricrelish Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Take away the Chicago game and he is average at best. I expected so much more (WR1-2 type stats for that high a pick) A young Antonio Gates he is not. Yep. The top 2 TE picks Gates and Finley have been wasted picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BirdmanJones Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 yes-didn't see him dragging 3 of my teams like an anchor... Looking at the waiver wire for guys like Ballard ?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB49ers Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 and just my luck, I faced that donkey when he faced Chi, otherwise I would've won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 I wish Rickets upon him. Rickets !!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbs0121 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Well, the significant other is a Wisconsin-raised die hard Pack fan, so I've seen all of their games so far this year. It's hardly Finley's fault - there are so many weapons on that offense that even a guy with his talent isn't going to get 8+ targets a game like he would on most teams. Finley is probably the 2nd or 3rd best TE in the league, he just plays with a stupidly efficient Rodgers who finds the open guy almost every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lippy225 Posted October 17, 2011 Author Share Posted October 17, 2011 I ended up picking up Pettigrew off waivers early in season for trade bait. Now I don't know what to do. Pettigrew has been outperforming him. And you know the week I make the switch Finley goes off again. All l I heard pre season was what a beast he was and how he was in a contract year. I really expected him to be a monster and I am pretty dissapointed. I guess I would just like to share in the misery of other Finley owners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiley Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Yeah, lost by 2pts. Luckily in another league I grabbed Graham so Finley is on the bench in that league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 13ers Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 As CBS said, there are just too many weapons and not enough footballs to go around. Rodgers just goes with who's open (what a novel concept!), instead of force feeding his best receiver. The Packers really have an embarrassment of riches. Besides, the TE position is deeper this year than in year's past. People who thought he'd be a new Gonzo or Gates were wearing rose-colored glasses. If your TE position is pulling you down, then how bad of a draft did you have? If you haven't seen Rodgers play this year, please try. It's amazing what he is doing. It's crazy to think that the stats he got this past game were mostly from the first half. The receivers dropped quite a few passes and have been all season. It's scary to think how much better Rodger's numbers would be if not for the drops. Yes, I am a Packer fan, but what he is doing right now is only rivaled by Brady from a couple seasons ago. He's also doing it with a line in front of him with guys missing/being shuffled from injuries. People can say his success is from the rule changes, which is partially true. but, his accuracy is beyond belief(watch SB45 for an example). It's good to be a Packer fan!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelsosi Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 there are just too many weapons and not enough footballs to go around. This. It has nothing to do with Finley per se.....GB just spreads the ball around too much for any player other than Rodgers (and perhaps Jennings) to be above average weekly fantasy plays. I expect Finley will have another monster game or two, but they'll be sprinkled into a bunch of 50 yard games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Dogs Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 This. It has nothing to do with Finley per se.....GB just spreads the ball around too much for any player other than Rodgers (and perhaps Jennings) to be above average weekly fantasy plays. I expect Finley will have another monster game or two, but they'll be sprinkled into a bunch of 50 yard games As soon as this happens, Finley will be trade bait for me........ Fortunately I also have Hernandez on my squad, so he's not killing me too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lippy225 Posted October 17, 2011 Author Share Posted October 17, 2011 I guess I see a team like New Orleans and Jimmy Graham. Are you going to tell me that NO doesn't have weapons? I think they may have more weapons than GB. They spread the ball out as much as anyone and I think they could be compared to GB. And Graham has been a monster (at the expense of their stable of WRs) I guess that was what I was expecting from Finley. Maybe teams will start to defend Graham like they do Finley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Rugby Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 I am not a Green Bay fan but have watched several games. There has been a few times the past couple weeks where Findley is wide open and Rogers throws to a covered WR. In every case, Rogers looked at him and kept looking. This smells of lockeroom issues. In fact, it could be an early sign of Green Bay's fall from glory. Dare to dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delusions of grandeur Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 I am not a Green Bay fan but have watched several games. There has been a few times the past couple weeks where Findley is wide open and Rogers throws to a covered WR. In every case, Rogers looked at him and kept looking. This smells of lockeroom issues. In fact, it could be an early sign of Green Bay's fall from glory. Dare to dream. I remember early in the season Rodgers barking at Finley for not being lined up right, or running the wrong routes or something like that. Also in the ATL game he dropped a few catchable balls too... I do think it still has to do with teams wanting to take him away at times, but does also seem to have something to do with Rodgers not trusting/favoring him like he did in the past. But I disagree that GB has less or even the same # of viable targets as the Saints. Yes, NO has plenty of serviceable WRs, but even with Driver out you've got competition from Jennings, Nelson, Jones and Cobb, as strong top to bottom as it gets.... I am a bit worried that Finely won't end up worth his draft spot, but if him and Rodgers can get on the same page, I don't think they're going to be able to just opt to take him out of the game all the time. He's still too much of a mismatch to not start exploiting defenses again at some point.... The problem is that the Pack haven't really struggled at moving the ball at all, and that's going to limit his production until they feel the need to put the ball in his hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunday Couch Potatoe Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Take away the Chicago game and he is average at best. I expected so much more (WR1-2 type stats for that high a pick) A young Antonio Gates he is not. Sure glad I grabbed Witten over him when I was sooo close to going the other way but the huddle having Witten #1 in their rankings helped make my decision easier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croe Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Finley would be killing me if I didn't have Graham there as well, been riding his train for the past four games. I guess I see a team like New Orleans and Jimmy Graham. Are you going to tell me that NO doesn't have weapons? I think they may have more weapons than GB. They spread the ball out as much as anyone and I think they could be compared to GB. And Graham has been a monster (at the expense of their stable of WRs) I guess that was what I was expecting from Finley. Maybe teams will start to defend Graham like they do Finley Like posted earlier in the thread, Rodgers tries to always find the open man. Some times it looks like he does get passed over for an open catch, but hey, shot happens. NO on the other hand does zero in on Graham, not due to lack of weapons (though not really comparable to those on GB), but because he is the best weapon. Last night Brees forced it to Graham when the game was on the line and got picked because of it - with a WR wide open in the endzone. Brees does not spread it the way that Rodgers does. I see them getting back on track next week before the bye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargerz Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 I was going to start a "When will Jermichael Finley go out with an injury?" thread, but this one will do for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Traded Finley away in two leagues this week. In one, I needed to upgrade my QB's (had A Smith, Bradford, and Grossman)... traded Finley/Nicks for Stafford/Jennings. Not sure if it will work out or not (I was leading the league in points going into the week), but I decided to take a chance, hoping that my QB upgrade is worth more points than what I lose at TE (I am left with Dickson and Ballard). Not exactly stud TE's, but I'm better at QB, and my RB's (Best/FJax) and WR's (Welker, White, Jennings, Cruz) are PPR gold, so far. Second league is a dynasty, and I needed a backup QB... Got McCoy and Pettigrew for Finley and Chancellor for SEA. QB's are much harder to come by than DB's (even though I think Chancellor is a stud in the making), and who knows... McCoy might end up being my #1 QB at some point (Ryan is currently). Outside of Finley's monster game against CHI, I think he and Pettigrew are pretty interchangeable... might even give the slight edge to Pettigrew, since he seems to be a consistent option #2 (after Johnson), while it's somewhat unclear where Finley fits in the fantasy mess that is GB's WR/RB/TE's. I still have Finley in a few leagues, and I'm not saying it's time to sell... I just happened to be in the position where it made sense for me to do so (twice). I think he's still a top-five guy, with unmatched athletic ability. But, between the injury last year, and Rodgers spreading it around this year, I don't think he's the clear-cut top 1-2 TE that many of us thought he might be... at least not on an every-week basis like Gates was at one point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecondString Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 He's definitely hurting me...one servicable game out of six. Too many options in GB to throw to, I'd like to want trade him, but doubtful of his value right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripleshot Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 I guess I see a team like New Orleans and Jimmy Graham. Are you going to tell me that NO doesn't have weapons? I think they may have more weapons than GB. They spread the ball out as much as anyone and I think they could be compared to GB. And Graham has been a monster (at the expense of their stable of WRs) I guess that was what I was expecting from Finley. Maybe teams will start to defend Graham like they do Finley You haven't watched many Saints games this year, have you? Brees used to spread the ball around. Now over half of his targets are going to Graham and Sproles(or the other running backs, but mainly Sproles). I think despite still getting large yardage totals, he's actually less effective by not using his WRs more. See David Dorey's comment in today's Tunnel Vision about Brees throwing a pick to end the game while targeting his TE while Meachem was uncovered and wide open in the end zone. You even said it yourself that Graham has been a monster at the expense of the Saints WRs, meaning Brees is not spreading the love this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt770 Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 I despise him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorcher Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 (edited) I remember early in the season Rodgers barking at Finley for not being lined up right, or running the wrong routes or something like that. Also in the ATL game he dropped a few catchable balls too... I do think it still has to do with teams wanting to take him away at times, but does also seem to have something to do with Rodgers not trusting/favoring him like he did in the past. But I disagree that GB has less or even the same # of viable targets as the Saints. Yes, NO has plenty of serviceable WRs, but even with Driver out you've got competition from Jennings, Nelson, Jones and Cobb, as strong top to bottom as it gets.... I am a bit worried that Finely won't end up worth his draft spot, but if him and Rodgers can get on the same page, I don't think they're going to be able to just opt to take him out of the game all the time. He's still too much of a mismatch to not start exploiting defenses again at some point.... The problem is that the Pack haven't really struggled at moving the ball at all, and that's going to limit his production until they feel the need to put the ball in his hands. After the Chicago game during post game interviews, a reporter asked Rodgers if he was glad to have a talent like Finley on the team and Rodgers answer was pretty much "Meh" Oh yeah, and the one week he went off was the week I played Davis instead! Edited October 17, 2011 by Scorcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 I tried telling people that Finley was over-rated in fantasy circles this season. Jordy Nelson in the post season built a rapport with Rodgers and it continued through the pre-season and 6 games into 2011. Jennings is 1A, Jordy is 1B, then you have Finley, Jones, Driver, Cobb. Jennings and Nelson are more dependable, where as Finley dropped a TD strike on Sunday. He's an elite talent, but he lacks focus and will drop passes that he shouldn't. Rodgers isn't that forgiving, as he's got 4-5 other options that are all clicking right now. The only every week safe plays on the Packers offense are Rodgers, Jennings, and Nelson. Finley, James Jones, Driver and Cobb will all be up and down all year long. That's just the way football go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markgugs Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 personally I love when other owners grab Gates or Finley, and leave a guy like Witten to me in the 5th round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 personally I love when other owners grab Gates or Finley, and leave a guy like Witten to me in the 5th round Good info here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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