factoryofsadness Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 What kind of numbers do you guys expect Amari Cooper, Nelson Agholor, and Charles Johnson to put up this year? These are all guys a lot of people are high on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Cooper is going to be outstanding. He was a terrific route runner to begin with - this will give the young QB a reliable target from the get-go. Add in the fact they have Michael Crabtree who'll be a competent #2 to draw coverage away, and Cooper will definitely be the best of this trio. I like Agholor, but there's a lot of cooks in that Philly kitchen. Lots of mouths to feed. Whatever analogy you want to use. He's a nice little route runner himself, so he's going to be open... but I think he'll be far less consistent than Cooper. Johnson stepped out last season but with AP back and Mike Wallace in the mix, I see him coming back down to Earth. I'd rather have Cooper... or even chance it on Agholor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 I love Cooper and Agholor is in a great spot to have a good rookie year. But I do not understand how Charles Johnson is grouped with them or why he is getting the hype he has. He went through the Browns and the Packers getting cut twice in 2013. Turner talked him up some in the offseason but he played in 11 games last year and scored only twice. He had one game over 100 yards and averaged just 43 yards per game. I just do not see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
factoryofsadness Posted August 16, 2015 Author Share Posted August 16, 2015 Thanks guys! Really valuable information. How would you value a guy like Garcon or Stevie Johnson when compared to Charles Johnson? I know they've bot had "down" years, but the potential for a bounceback on both of their ends seems strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 I don't get the C.Johnson love but I can't comment on the other 2 as I'm drafting right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asskickas Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 I like Carr's game so of those 3 Cooper...but it's still the Raiders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 I like Carr's game so of those 3 Cooper...but it's still the Raiders. What is this supposed to mean? Bad teams still produce fantasy studs and near-studs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorttynaz Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Bad teams still produce fantasy studs and near-studs.they're usually kickers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 What is this supposed to mean? Bad teams still produce fantasy studs and near-studs. Yet some people have all offensive players from those bad teams on their "do not draft" lists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Yet some people have all offensive players from those bad teams on their "do not draft" lists. Sucks for them. I remember a decade or so ago the Falcons were just deplorable. They got waxed every week. Their QB and WRs were money in fantasy. "Do not Draft" lists are befuddling to me. Sure, you're not going to take a risky player - be it because they're on a bad team or otherwise - unless they've fallen to a point where you feel comfortable asserting the risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Not sure why Breshad Perriman is not part of this conversation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorttynaz Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 He is - now that you drafted him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorttynaz Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 (edited) There are several others out there that people may not recognize now, but some that are worthy of rostering - names you'll know mid-season. Shhhh..... Edited August 17, 2015 by Shorttynaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 He is - now that you drafted him I also traded for him in every Dynasty...so there's that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Cooper is going to be outstanding. He was a terrific route runner to begin with - this will give the young QB a reliable target from the get-go. Add in the fact they have Michael Crabtree who'll be a competent #2 to draw coverage away, and Cooper will definitely be the best of this trio. I like Agholor, but there's a lot of cooks in that Philly kitchen. Lots of mouths to feed. Whatever analogy you want to use. He's a nice little route runner himself, so he's going to be open... but I think he'll be far less consistent than Cooper. Johnson stepped out last season but with AP back and Mike Wallace in the mix, I see him coming back down to Earth. I'd rather have Cooper... or even chance it on Agholor. Johnson I don't think is in the same class as those 2, but yes a lot of mouths to feed in Philly. I do like Jordan Matthews there though, a tall slot receiver with speed and good hands is hard to beat against teams 3rd corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I like Carr's game so of those 3 Cooper...but it's still the Raiders. How dare you question the (in my Al Davis voice) "the greatness of the Raidahs" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stethant Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Not sure why Breshad Perriman is not part of this conversation I think he needs to get back on the practice field before we raise the roof. Two solid weeks and counting - and it's a knee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flemingd Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Yep, that's a lot of lost reps that rookies need. Long term I still have him very, very highly rated, but this doesn't bode well for rookie year production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asskickas Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Cooks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud29 Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Most valuable young wideout? That OBJ guy is pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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